Can Atheists be Moral?

[deanrd]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

If a Republican Christian is what passes as "moral", thank God I'm a heathen.

I don't get what attracts people to the GOP agenda? It has to be about race. Because the fear Trump sows through racism is blinding.

 

[Bezukhov]

his signature is also how christians win elections, "they are socialists" - scaring the same people that need to read their book to believe in something, for them to vote in the same manner ... out of fear. and they have succeeded for centuries.

You don't understand the obsession that the vast majority of Christians have about elections. Most of them believe that Jesus' Kingdom will be established on Earth as soon as every elected office in America is held by Bible Thumping Republicans.

 

[ding]

There's this latest study.

New Study Shows Atheists Just Want To Sin

New Study Shows Atheists Just Want To Sin

Atheists just want to worship created things.

No, that's embarrasingly stupid.

On the other hand, theists want to worship --even be enslaved by -- madeup gods and fairies and sky daddies.

It’s totally true. Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

I use it to refute materialists like yourself.

 

[ding]

There's this latest study.

New Study Shows Atheists Just Want To Sin

New Study Shows Atheists Just Want To Sin

Atheists just want to worship created things.

No, that's embarrasingly stupid.

On the other hand, theists want to worship --even be enslaved by -- madeup gods and fairies and sky daddies.

It’s totally true. Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

.

Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

his signature is also how christians win elections, "they are socialists" - scaring the same people that need to read their book to believe in something, for them to vote in the same manner ... out of fear. and they have succeeded for centuries.

It’s not hard to spot a Socialist. They’re the ones trying to subordinate religion.

 

[BreezeWood]

Atheists just want to worship created things.

No, that's embarrasingly stupid.

On the other hand, theists want to worship --even be enslaved by -- madeup gods and fairies and sky daddies.

It’s totally true. Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

.

Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

his signature is also how christians win elections, "they are socialists" - scaring the same people that need to read their book to believe in something, for them to vote in the same manner ... out of fear. and they have succeeded for centuries.

It’s not hard to spot a Socialist. They’re the ones trying to subordinate religion.

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It’s not hard to spot a Socialist. They’re the ones trying to subordinate religion.

you're a joke bing, christianity is not a religion those people "subverted" the 1st century - you are their end product.

* they would rather do away with the forged documents of all three desert "religions" - altogether ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I use it to refute materialists like yourself.

No, you use it to soothe yourself.

 

[ding]

No, that's embarrasingly stupid.

On the other hand, theists want to worship --even be enslaved by -- madeup gods and fairies and sky daddies.

It’s totally true. Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

.

Read my signature.

Nah,it's crap you use to soothe yourwelf and to troll. Which shows that your faith is pretty shaky.

his signature is also how christians win elections, "they are socialists" - scaring the same people that need to read their book to believe in something, for them to vote in the same manner ... out of fear. and they have succeeded for centuries.

It’s not hard to spot a Socialist. They’re the ones trying to subordinate religion.

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It’s not hard to spot a Socialist. They’re the ones trying to subordinate religion.

you're a joke bing, christianity is not a religion those people "subverted" the 1st century - you are their end product.

* they would rather do away with the forged documents of all three desert "religions" - altogether ...

The joke is on you. I belong to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. Based on traditional ecclesiology and devoted to apostolic teaching, fellowship, the breaking of bread and to prayer.

You seem to be devoted to critical theory.

 

[ding]

I use it to refute materialists like yourself.

No, you use it to soothe yourself.

Not at all. I use it to educate others.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I belong to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. Based on traditional ecclesiology and devoted to apostolic teaching, fellowship, the breaking of bread and to prayer.

No,you belong to a cult based on an iron age fairy tale.

 

[ding]

I belong to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. Based on traditional ecclesiology and devoted to apostolic teaching, fellowship, the breaking of bread and to prayer.

No,you belong to a cult based on an iron age fairy tale.

Just because you can't expand your mind to contemplate the origin of existence doesn't mean others can't. You have never seriously stopped to consider this because you lack the intelligence and curiosity to do so.

But I bet you swallow the religion of socialism hook, line and sinker. They like them dumb.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just because you can't expand your mind to contemplate the origin of existence doesn't mean others can't.

Of course, this is precisely the opposite of what you do. To me, all possibilities exist. You, on the other hand, were brainwashed by a very specific, narrow pile of magical horseshit, and you have closed your mind to all other possibilities. I am infinitely more open minded than you, and infinitely more able to assimilate new inforamtion and to change than a cultist like you -- who thinks he found the only, absolute truth at age 3 in Sunday school -- will ever be. This would also explain your horrible grasp of modern science.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Can Catholic priests he moral?


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[james bond]

Just because you can't expand your mind to contemplate the origin of existence doesn't mean others can't.

Of course, this is precisely the opposite of what you do. To me, all possibilities exist. You, on the other hand, were brainwashed by a very specific, narrow pile of magical horseshit, and you have closed your mind to all other possibilities. I am infinitely more open minded than you, and infinitely more able to assimilate new inforamtion and to change than a cultist like you -- who thinks he found the only, absolute truth at age 3 in Sunday school -- will ever be. This would also explain your horrible grasp of modern science.

In this case, I agree with ding as he's smarter than you and you make up stuff using imagination. It's you who believes in "a very specific, narrow pile of magical horseshit" and have closed your mind to all other possibilities. I mean I thought you were describing yourself in #2671.

As for proving you wrong, you know very well that you can't have an infinite number of anything in our material world, so you have lied once more.

 

[james bond]

* they would rather do away with the forged documents of all three desert "religions" - altogether ...

That's what commies do. Are you a commie? You've already stated what they do in the Communist Manifesto.

 

[james bond]

If a Republican Christian is what passes as "moral", thank God I'm a heathen.

I don't get what attracts people to the GOP agenda? It has to be about race. Because the fear Trump sows through racism is blinding.

Oh my! How delusional can you get deanrd haha?

 

[james bond]

Do atheists think this is funny?

 

[ding]

Just because you can't expand your mind to contemplate the origin of existence doesn't mean others can't.

Of course, this is precisely the opposite of what you do. To me, all possibilities exist. You, on the other hand, were brainwashed by a very specific, narrow pile of magical horseshit, and you have closed your mind to all other possibilities. I am infinitely more open minded than you, and infinitely more able to assimilate new inforamtion and to change than a cultist like you -- who thinks he found the only, absolute truth at age 3 in Sunday school -- will ever be. This would also explain your horrible grasp of modern science.

I have forgotten more science than you ever knew. What are your scientific credentials? You have none.

Militant atheists like yourself are the antithesis of open mindedness.

Everything you see is skewed to fairytales even when it was shown that the account of Genesis is how ancient man passed down knowledge and history.

 

[Hollie]

Do atheists think this is funny?

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I think it’s funny, in a mordant sort or way, that folks such as you spend your lives in trembling fear of angry gods, devils, satans waving a pitchfork and other absurdities.

 

[ding]

Do atheists think this is funny?

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I think it’s funny, in a mordant sort or way, that folks such as you spend your lives in trembling fear of angry gods, devils, satans waving a pitchfork and other absurdities.

Quite the opposite, my dear. We celebrate a loving and a caring God. Just as your people did for thousands of years before they forgot Him.

 

[cnm]

It is stupid. I'm not complaining about atheists beliefs, per se but about the hubris and superior smugness many atheists display in places precisely like this one.

It's often not enough just to say I believe this or that. They have to ridicule and belittle while they are about it.

As you are doing?