Can the present-day German national anthem be called a Nazi hymn?

[Zebra]

What do you think?

 

[Zebra]

It is not a Nazi hymn

 

[1srelluc]

Since the OP did not bother to post the German NA I'll give it a go.

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[odanny]

Sounds okay to me, but I don't speak German.

 

[DudleySmith]

Weird question, but no, it isn't, and even if it was, no reason for Germans to care who wets themselves over it. They should also put the first and second stanza back in.

Deutschlandlied - Wikipedia

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Germany, Germany above all
Above all in the world
When, always, for protection and defence
Brothers stand together.
From the Meuse to the Neman
From the Adige to the Little Belt,
𝄆 Germany, Germany above all
Above all in the world. 𝄇

German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song,
Shall retain, throughout the world,
Their old respected fame,
To inspire us to noble deeds
For the length of our lives.
𝄆 German women, German fidelity,
German wine and German song. 𝄇

There is nothing 'Natzee' about these two stanzas.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Do I think it's a Nazi hymn? No.

Here....................a link with the lyrics and how it has evolved............

What are the lyrics to the German national anthem, and did they change after World War II?

‘Deutschlandlied’, also known as ‘The Song of the Germans’, has been the national anthem of Germany since 1922. But what are the lyrics, and which verses are sung at sporting events?

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The lyrics of their anthem....................

What are the lyrics to the German national anthem?​

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand;
Blüh’ im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland!

What do the lyrics mean in English?​

Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
Towards these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the foundation of happiness;
Flourish in the radiance of this happiness,
Flourish, German fatherland!

And, the reason their current anthem is not a Nazi hymn.............

When Germany reunified in 1990, the third stanza of ‘Deutschlandlied’ was confirmed as the national anthem.

The other verses, which include the lyrics ‘Deutschland, Deutschland über alles’ were dropped due to their association with Nazi Germany.

 

[Zebra]

Sounds okay to me, but I don't speak German.

Beautiful melody, beautiful pictures.
but the first stanza is not our anthem any more.
only the third stanza, which begins with: Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit = Unity and Right and Freedom …..

 

[zaangalewa]

What do you think?

No. Also the old text had been no Nazi hymn. The text is from August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben (1798-1874).

 

[zaangalewa]

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The other verses, which include the lyrics ‘Deutschland, Deutschland über alles’ were dropped due to their association with Nazi Germany.

What's stupid nonsense. The sentence "Germany above everything [else]" meant only to take more serios the common interests of all Germans in all German regions (=more than 200 independent local parts) than local interests. The next sentences define very clear the borders of Germany at this time of history. So nothing in this text justifies the Nazi idea of a world domination on racist reasons.

It's by the way also interesting that a real Nazi song contained in the origin the sentence "Heute hört uns Deutschland und morgen die ganze Welt" = "Today hears us Germany and tomorrow the whole world". This was transformed from the Nazis when they had been in the goverment into "Heute gehört uns Deutschland und morgen die ganze Welt" = "Today we own Germany and tomorrow the whole world".

 

[zaangalewa]

Sounds okay to me, but I don't speak German.

The problem is the borders in the first strophe are not existing any longer so specially the Poles - but also the Czechs - who got a very big part of Germany after world war 2 hate it very much and they hate it also when Germans use the old German names of cities and regions in Poland and other countries.
And the second strophe is somehow antiquated. This German soul is not existing any longer. Example: When I was a child we always had keys in our house door - even when no one was at home. Reason: Someone could come. Today all doors are locked. Reason: Someone could come.

 

[xyz]

The problem is the borders in the first strophe are not existing any longer so specially the Poles - but also the Czechs - who got a very big part of Germany after world war 2

No, the Czechs did not get any part of Germany after WWII, they got a tiny part after WWI.

 

[Zebra]

No. Also the old text had been no Nazi hymn. The text is from August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben (1798-1874).

I see that you are well informed!

 

[zaangalewa]

No, the Czechs did not get any part of Germany after WWII, they got a tiny part after WWI.

You have to take also a look at Austria-Hungaria when you speak about Germany. What you see here is only the Prussian part of Germany. Austria, Bavaria and Bohemia had been a common cultural region "since ever". You can see this very well when you take a look at the border between Bavaria and Bohemia which was always the same through long periods of history while all other borders in Germany moved. Reason for: It never was a real border. After world war 2 it became part of the iron curtain and hundreds - or even thousands - of years of traditions died.

Bohemia was once one of the most important regions of Germany. One of the (3+4=) 7 traditional "Kurfürsten" = "electors" had been the king of Bohemia. After world war 2 the Czechs murdered and/or displaced all Bohemians.

 

[Zebra]

You have to take also a look at Austia-Hungaria when you speak about Germany. What you see here is only the Prussian part of Germany. Austria, Bavaria and Bohemia had been a common cultural region "since ever". You can see this very well when you take a look at the border between Bavaria and Bohemia which was always the same through long periods of history while all other borders in Germany moved. Reason for: It never was a real border. After world war 2 it became part of the iron curtain and hundreds - or even thousands - of years of traditions died.

Bohemia was once one of the most important regions of Germany. One of the (3+4=) 7 traditional "Kurfürsten" = "electors" had been the king of Bohemia. After world war 2 the Czechs murdered and/or displaced all Bohemians.

yes - murdered or displaced.
Who still speaks of those massacers?

Nobody …..

 

[zaangalewa]

yes - murdered or displaced.
Who still speaks of those massacers?

Nobody …..

Very most had been displaced. Nevertheless this was a genocide. Bohemia is dead - and will never rise from the dead.

 

[Zebra]

Very most had been displaced. Nevertheless this was a genocide. Bohemia is dead - and will never rise from the dead.

Which is sad

 

[Zebra]

Clearly it is No nNazi hymn

 

[Zebra]

Nobody voted - why not?

 

[Ringo]

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