Can We Please Get Rid of the Pledge?

[westwall]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

 

[Rustic]

If getting rid of the pledge meant getting rid of govt. in education, I'd take that trade-off without hesitation.

No doubt, I'd gladly get rid of the anthem or pledge if we can get rid of the fucked up career politicians…

 

[Rustic]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

My bad, the picture maybe off but the career politician's federal government and the VA treat our soldiers like shit... And progressives call them stupid. That's why say getting along is overrated and the country is better off splitting up.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

I think the point there though is, that the Military Veteran is getting 500 a month less than a Muslim immigrant, which is morally wrong.

The Military Veteran should be treated with more respect, having fought for his nation and risked his life for it.

 

[Rustic]

Still the fact remains, the federal government and the country are not one in the same. Made obvious by how many times the federal government has fucked the country… LOL

Without the federal Government you don't have a country, you have land with 50 little states none of which are beholden to each other you idiot.

The 10th amendment is no longer recognized by the federal government thus the failure of the country…

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

My bad, the picture maybe off but the career politician's federal government and the VA treat our soldiers like shit... And progressives call them stupid. That's why say getting along is overrated and the country is better off splitting up.

The military are fawned about until they return home and then so many Veterans are abandoned, especially if they return home with psychological issues, there's a high rate of suicide amongst Veterans.

 

[Rustic]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

My bad, the picture maybe off but the career politician's federal government and the VA treat our soldiers like shit... And progressives call them stupid. That's why say getting along is overrated and the country is better off splitting up.

The military are fawned about until they return home and then so many Veterans are abandoned, especially if they return home with psychological issues, there's a high rate of suicide amongst Veterans.

When you have a commander in chief that shits on our soldiers, of course there's going to be a high suicide rate.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

If getting rid of the pledge meant getting rid of govt. in education, I'd take that trade-off without hesitation.

No doubt, I'd gladly get rid of the anthem or pledge if we can get rid of the fucked up career politicians…

All nations should have term limits for politicians, it's not a good thing having politicians in office for 20 plus years, I think a term limit of say 8 years and then they can't run for re-election.

 

[Rustic]

If getting rid of the pledge meant getting rid of govt. in education, I'd take that trade-off without hesitation.

No doubt, I'd gladly get rid of the anthem or pledge if we can get rid of the fucked up career politicians…

All nations should have term limits for politicians, it's not a good thing having politicians in office for 20 plus years, I think a term limit of say 8 years and then they can't run for re-election.

I think it should be one term, and all along they have to work a real job - not a civilian federal government job…

 

[Vandalshandle]

During the Vietnam era, the American flag stood for international aggression and imperialism. It stood for Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew. It was no longer my flag.

Hahahaha.. aggression,huh? You've never been near to combat zone. You've never worn the subdued U.S. flag on your shoulder..... hahaha.. what a fake...

You are slipping, Def. Not once in this post did you use the words, "moron", "imbecile", "fuckface", "peckerhead", or any other words that you learned in your journey through higher education!.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

If getting rid of the pledge meant getting rid of govt. in education, I'd take that trade-off without hesitation.

No doubt, I'd gladly get rid of the anthem or pledge if we can get rid of the fucked up career politicians…

All nations should have term limits for politicians, it's not a good thing having politicians in office for 20 plus years, I think a term limit of say 8 years and then they can't run for re-election.

I think it should be one term, and all along they have to work a real job not a civilian government job…

Well you could make 8 years one term, I don't think they should get expenses funded by the taxpayer.

 

[Moonglow]

This is why the federal government and the country are not one in the same… LOL

Just an FYI, that's a WWII Russian soldier.

I think the point there though is, that the Military Veteran is getting 500 a month less than a Muslim immigrant, which is morally wrong.

The Military Veteran should be treated with more respect, having fought for his nation and risked his life for it.

usually retirement pay is depended upon grade and years, the least I have ever know of a retired veteran in a min of 1750 a month, many get much more

Currently, any members who joined the military after 1980 are automatically enrolled in the High 36 plan, unless they opt for the $30,000 bonus and subsequent reduced benefits offered in the optional REDUX plan.

High 36 Plan
The High 36 retirement plan calculates your pension benefits based on your highest basic pay earned during any 36 month period in your military career. The plan uses what is called a “multiplier” to determine the amount of benefits you are eligible for when you begin receiving pension checks.

The multiplier is currently 2.5% per year of qualified service. This means that if you retire after 20 years of qualified service, you are eligible for 50% of your highest 36 month average monthly earnings while serving in the military. If your highest base pay amount was $5,000 a month for 36 months, and you serve for 20 years, you will receive an immediate paycheck of $2,500 a month. The number of years of service correspond to the percentage of your highest basic pay you will qualify for in retirement. For example, if you serve for 30 years, you will qualify for a 75% pension, if you serve for 40 years, you will qualify for 100% of your highest average 36 months basic pay.
Military Retirement Pay & Pension Benefits Explained

 

[Hossfly]

On Flag Day, burn one. That will show true liberty, not that false crap conservatives love.

It might be legal if but Hossfly catches any one burning an American flag they had better be prepared to receive a major ass kicking. Also anyone not rendering the flag the proper respect will be chastised physically. Don't say anything about Hossfly going to jail. Tain't possible.

You are nothing more than a Nazi. A real patriot knows that liberty is flying the flag or burning the flag, your call. That is liberty.

You are full of it, Commie.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

You forgot "one nation under God"

No, that is the original pledge, written by a Christian Socialist.

Wasn't "under God " added in like the 50s? Some anti commie freak out .

1954. The Pledge of Allegiance

Notice there is no comma after "one nation" so don't say "one nation (pause) "under God". It's "one narion under God".

What difference does a comma make when the point is it was modified to fit a 1950's red scare Christian mentality?

It was added to acknowledge our nation is blessed by God, although we are losing his favor. But I know that getting people to not pause is as impossible to get morons at a ballgame to not start clapping when we get to the part "or the land of the free". when we sing the national anthem.

 

[Moonglow]

During the Vietnam era, the American flag stood for international aggression and imperialism. It stood for Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew. It was no longer my flag.

Hahahaha.. aggression,huh? You've never been near to combat zone. You've never worn the subdued U.S. flag on your shoulder..... hahaha.. what a fake...

You are slipping, Def. Not once in this post did you use the words, "moron", "imbecile", "fuckface", "peckerhead", or any other words that you learned in your journey through higher education!.

He seems to know all about you somehow...

 

[Hossfly]

On Flag Day, burn one. That will show true liberty, not that false crap conservatives love.

It might be legal if but Hossfly catches any one burning an American flag they had better be prepared to receive a major ass kicking. Also anyone not rendering the flag the proper respect will be chastised physically. Don't say anything about Hossfly going to jail. Tain't possible.

Well Hossfly, as much as I have a huge case of like with you, I can't condone physical violence when people exercise the liberty that the Pledge, the National Anthem, and the flag represent by disrespecting these symbols that are so important to so many of us. I might not object to a well phrased verbal ass kicking though.

In one hour I am having dinner with about 30 guys who are the only survivors of my company from November 1965. In a 4 day period we had around 250 members of my Regiment killed on the battlefield. Many more have died since from various forms of cancer caused by Agent Orange. All of us here tonight are 100% disabled veterans who have survived those cancers. So you will have to excuse Hossfly for being in a violent mood when it comes to THE FLAG. I have to get ready for dinner now. I don't want to miss joining the group to pledge allegiance to that sacred (to us) flag.

You made a symbol sacred, without understanding what the fuck it actually mean?. Just more egotistical cannon fodder. Drink up.

Go to hell. Do not pass GO. Get yer ass straight to hell.