Can You Defend Democratic Socialism?

Carl in Michigan

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Or even undemocratic socialism? This is where liberalism leads. Socialism/liberalism is the epitome of greed. It is evil.

Are there any leftists here who can actually DEFEND this ideology?

 
Isnt that pretty much what we have here now with the size and scope of the Govt and the POTUS exerting more control over the economy by picking winners and losers via tariffs?
 
Isnt that pretty much what we have here now with the size and scope of the Govt and the POTUS exerting more control over the economy by picking winners and losers via tariffs?
The first part, yes. Second part, no, except during the Obama administration.
 
Isnt that pretty much what we have here now with the size and scope of the Govt and the POTUS exerting more control over the economy by picking winners and losers via tariffs?

If it means we win and they lose, or a win win, I'm good with it. Having a strategy of we lose, they win.....yeah, not for that.
 
Sure .

America has been socialist for like 150 years and has done pretty damn good .

All the winner countries are demo/socialist.
 
Or even undemocratic socialism? This is where liberalism leads. Socialism/liberalism is the epitome of greed. It is evil.

Are there any leftists here who can actually DEFEND this ideology?



By the way . Pure capitalism is the “epitome of greed.”
 
Isnt that pretty much what we have here now with the size and scope of the Govt and the POTUS exerting more control over the economy by picking winners and losers via tariffs?

If it means we win and they lose, or a win win, I'm good with it. Having a strategy of we lose, they win.....yeah, not for that.

So, in your world America becoming even more socialist is "winning".

Well, I guess you have the right to such opinions, and it seems most of America agrees with you.
 
Or even undemocratic socialism? This is where liberalism leads. Socialism/liberalism is the epitome of greed. It is evil.

Are there any leftists here who can actually DEFEND this ideology?



Why would I want to defend bullshit that can't last?

Oh wait, I am not a leftist and have brain.
 
Or even undemocratic socialism? This is where liberalism leads. Socialism/liberalism is the epitome of greed. It is evil.

Are there any leftists here who can actually DEFEND this ideology?



Medicare and Social Security are the two most successful and popular government programs in the history of the country -- so much so that so-called socialist hating Tea Party members carry signs saying "Keep your Govt Hands Off My Medicare!!" -- The End.
 
Or even undemocratic socialism? This is where liberalism leads. Socialism/liberalism is the epitome of greed. It is evil.

Are there any leftists here who can actually DEFEND this ideology?



Medicare and Social Security are the two most successful and popular government programs in the history of the country -- so much so that so-called socialist hating Tea Party members carry signs saying "Keep your Govt Hands Off My Medicare!!" -- The End.


In what absurdo world are medicare and social security successful.

Having a debt to the tune of 150 trillion dollars with no assets behind is "successful".

I am sure it's popular as people have been promised a lot of free shit. Of course, only so if you are really dumb and can't see that someone else has to pay.
 
In what absurdo world are medicare and social security successful.

Having a debt to the tune of 150 trillion dollars with no assets behind is "successful".

I am sure it's popular as people have been promised a lot of free shit. Of course, only so if you are really dumb and can't see that someone else has to pay.
Social Security doesn't have debt -- maybe you should educate yourself -- and medicare runs with a 3 or 4% overhead (I know you don't understand what that means) -- and if you raise the medicare age cap, it will fund itself for 80 more years without even factoring in the incoming payees into the program.

I am sorry that programs that work are popular to people but most Americans like policies that work -- they could give a fuck about your ideological delusions -- which is why your side always has to lie and misrepresent because your policies at face value fail.
 
I wouldnt have as many problems with it if the statists got amendments passed instead of raping the Constitution.
So, no, i cant defend it.
 
In what absurdo world are medicare and social security successful.

Having a debt to the tune of 150 trillion dollars with no assets behind is "successful".

I am sure it's popular as people have been promised a lot of free shit. Of course, only so if you are really dumb and can't see that someone else has to pay.
Social Security doesn't have debt -- maybe you should educate yourself -- and medicare runs with a 3 or 4% overhead (I know you don't understand what that means) -- and if you raise the medicare age cap, it will fund itself for 80 more years without even factoring in the incoming payees into the program.

I am sorry that programs that work are popular to people but most Americans like policies that work -- they could give a fuck about your ideological delusions -- which is why your side always has to lie and misrepresent because your policies at face value fail.

ROFLMAO!

You must be a really dumb snowflake. Social security has an unfunded liability of over 20 trillion dollars.

No one buys your bullshit. You are pretending that the free shit you are shoveling is actually free, but people aren't that dumb unfortunately for you.
 

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