Capitalism or Communism? Is communism really that horrible?

Marxian communism has never been attempted.

Except by Lenin and Pol Pot...

but don't forget our intellectual liberals loved Stalin's Marxist communism; so much so that they spied for him and gave him the A-bomb. Whoops, he turned out to be the greatest liberal killer in human history.


Really? They went all through the cycles of economies feudalism and capitalism and then the workers (proletariat) rose up? No these thugs usurped power and then tried different BS. Pol Pot tried some agrarian form of socialism and Stalin had something else and so did Lenin and on and on.

Marxism follows a very specific path that results in communism. It isn't an overthrow of power by one corrupt dick.
 
Karl Marx believed that competitive markets would eventually devolve into monopolies whereby the market winners would capture the political machinery and hold non property owners captive to rising prices and diminishing services... until you had a whole underclass of alienated slaves working only for subsistence. But because the wealthy had so much money they would buy media and convince stupid people that their concentrated power must be defended on the grounds of freedom

Not only did he believe, he desired for that to happen. He just wanted to make sure that it was his tribe who were the ones monopolizing. Don't forget that marx was a wealthy elitist. Most of marx's bellyaching was directed at those who threatened the elitist/slave two class system... the young middle class.

Ironically, he was actually a conservative.

Also note,
As this thread has proven, those who argue in favor marxism are pathological liars.
There are few things they are actually consistent about. Still, pinko's can be identified by their hatred of the middle class, insect-like binary thinking, and their absolute inhumanity.
 
The Occupiers should be careful for that of which they wish.

If America collapses, they may just get the communism of Lefty's wet dreams!

Funny, I gave the same warning back in 2008. Now look at what they've gone and done.
 
Except by Lenin and Pol Pot...

but don't forget our intellectual liberals loved Stalin's Marxist communism; so much so that they spied for him and gave him the A-bomb. Whoops, he turned out to be the greatest liberal killer in human history.


Really? They went all through the cycles of economies feudalism and capitalism and then the workers (proletariat) rose up? No these thugs usurped power and then tried different BS. Pol Pot tried some agrarian form of socialism and Stalin had something else and so did Lenin and on and on.

Marxism follows a very specific path that results in communism. It isn't an overthrow of power by one corrupt dick.

Yes, communism will have arrived when there is no personal property; when everything is shared. The only problem is that human nature will prevent people from making personal property just to give it away. Liberalism and Communism are great except that they don't account for human nature, but that's just a tiny oversite to a liberal.
 
Karl Marx believed that competitive markets would eventually devolve into monopolies whereby the market winners would capture the political machinery and hold non property owners captive to rising prices and diminishing services... until you had a whole underclass of alienated slaves working only for subsistence. But because the wealthy had so much money they would buy media and convince stupid people that their concentrated power must be defended on the grounds of freedom

Not only did he believe, he desired for that to happen. He just wanted to make sure that it was his tribe who were the ones monopolizing. Don't forget that marx was a wealthy elitist. Most of marx's bellyaching was directed at those who threatened the elitist/slave two class system... the young middle class.

Ironically, he was actually a conservative.

Also note,
As this thread has proven, those who argue in favor marxism are pathological liars.
There are few things they are actually consistent about. Still, pinko's can be identified by their hatred of the middle class, insect-like binary thinking, and their absolute inhumanity.

:eusa_clap:...great description of our President and his minions....
 
why is it the the Party chiefs live on a much higher scale than the others?

Jefferson said all central government was at best naturally corrupt and at worst genocidal, regardless of what rationale the leaders used to take power from the people. That is why Jefferson gave us freedom from all liberal central government and that is why we became the greatest country in human history.

How did Jefferson give us freedom from all liberal central government?
 
why is it the the Party chiefs live on a much higher scale than the others?

Jefferson said all central government was at best naturally corrupt and at worst genocidal, regardless of what rationale the leaders used to take power from the people. That is why Jefferson gave us freedom from all liberal central government and that is why we became the greatest country in human history.

How did Jefferson give us freedom from all liberal central government?

with the Declaration, Constitution, and by founding the Republican Party in 1792 to vanquish the Federalist Party.

Welcome to your first lesson in American history
 
Jefferson said all central government was at best naturally corrupt and at worst genocidal, regardless of what rationale the leaders used to take power from the people. That is why Jefferson gave us freedom from all liberal central government and that is why we became the greatest country in human history.

How did Jefferson give us freedom from all liberal central government?

with the Declaration, Constitution, and by founding the Republican Party in 1792 to vanquish the Federalist Party.

Welcome to your first lesson in American history

The Declaration has no legal power and what part of the Constituton did Jefferson give us?
 
The Declaration has no legal power
too stupid!! If I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or runaway with your liberal strawman between your legs


and what part of the Constituton did Jefferson give us?

all of it, Jefferson was Madison's mentor and hired him as his Sec. of State and they founded the Republican party together in 1792.

So the Declaration is no longer relevant and dropped?
The rest of the question, was: what part of the Constitution did Jefferson give us?
I was not asking the relationship of Jefferson and Madison, nor the founding of the Republican party, the question was regarding your statement of Jefferson's contribution to the writing of the Constitution. What was that contribution?
 
Saying mentoring has no merit is stupid. The Decletation practically quoted Locke but you wanna ignore him because it came from Jefferson's hand lol.

Neither document has any sort of bearing on the way this country is ran, period.
 
but don't forget our intellectual liberals loved Stalin's Marxist communism; so much so that they spied for him and gave him the A-bomb. Whoops, he turned out to be the greatest liberal killer in human history.


Really? They went all through the cycles of economies feudalism and capitalism and then the workers (proletariat) rose up? No these thugs usurped power and then tried different BS. Pol Pot tried some agrarian form of socialism and Stalin had something else and so did Lenin and on and on.

Marxism follows a very specific path that results in communism. It isn't an overthrow of power by one corrupt dick.

Yes, communism will have arrived when there is no personal property; when everything is shared. The only problem is that human nature will prevent people from making personal property just to give it away. Liberalism and Communism are great except that they don't account for human nature, but that's just a tiny oversite to a liberal.

True liertarianism accounts for human nature.
 
Really? They went all through the cycles of economies feudalism and capitalism and then the workers (proletariat) rose up? No these thugs usurped power and then tried different BS. Pol Pot tried some agrarian form of socialism and Stalin had something else and so did Lenin and on and on.

Marxism follows a very specific path that results in communism. It isn't an overthrow of power by one corrupt dick.

Yes, communism will have arrived when there is no personal property; when everything is shared. The only problem is that human nature will prevent people from making personal property just to give it away. Liberalism and Communism are great except that they don't account for human nature, but that's just a tiny oversite to a liberal.

True liertarianism accounts for human nature.

it's true, the individual is the engine of evolution yet the liberal submerges the individual into a herd. Then, when the leader of the herd takes a wrong turn, the whole herd perishes.

It seems simple but the liberal simply lacks the IQ to understand it. Not one liberal can respond to this concept let alone refute it.
 
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True libertarianism accounts for human nature.

Very true. Too bad a lot of Libertarian party members are dupes.
Amazing that the "official" Libertarian party refuses to support the right to life. It is the first inalienable right in the Declaration of Independence!

Speaking of hypocrisy,
It is amazing to see these conservatives spit and hiss at the word "Liberal". They truly are serving the their marxist masters quite perfectly.

Pinko's may be stupid and evil, but "Conservatives" are their useful idiots.
 
"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others" — Ayn Rand, author of "Atlas Shrugged"
 
True libertarianism accounts for human nature.

Very true. Too bad a lot of Libertarian party members are dupes.
Amazing that the "official" Libertarian party refuses to support the right to life. It is the first inalienable right in the Declaration of Independence!

Speaking of hypocrisy,
It is amazing to see these conservatives spit and hiss at the word "Liberal". They truly are serving the their marxist masters quite perfectly.

Pinko's may be stupid and evil, but "Conservatives" are their useful idiots.
Your version of reality is...interesting. :lol:
 

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