2aguy
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- Jul 19, 2014
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If the owner chooses to end their own life, I can't stop them, and neither can any amount of gun control.
That is why it is outside the range of our discussion.
It depends on the discussion. He is claiming they make the owner safe. Given the most likely person to be shot by that gun is the owner, that claim is not true.
Safe from others.
If they didn't own a gun, would that keep them safe from themselves? No.
Now, there is a discussion to be had when it comes to murder suicide. But those murders are already accounted for in the 8,000 criminal homicides.
When it comes to straight suicide, no legislation or gun control can keep a person protected from themselves.
It's sad, but beyond the scope of our discussion, as the remedy gun control offers can't reduce the ability of persons to end their own life.
They do not make the owner safer. The most likely person by far to be shot by that gun is the owner either accidently or intentionally.
brain...there are up to 90 million gun owners and only 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013......not a problem....and suicide....does't count...since other methods besides guns will be used....so you are wrong again.......
If you are going to claim they make the owner safer then yes suicide does count. The most likely use of that gun is suicide, how is that making the owner safer?
If he didn't have the gun he would have still committed suicide brain.....the gun didn't make him depressed enough to kill himself.....pills, jumping off bridges and in front of trains.....works just as well as guns....so no...they don't count.....