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In other words, they don't believe what YOU do, and they don't believe what you THINK they should if they're going to disagree with you. Ergo, they can't REALLY be Christians, because YOU are the final arbiter on what ALL Christians do and don't believe.
Piss off.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Why not? Since when are Christians without sin?
They told the reporter (from the Pulitzer prize winning newspaper) they would bake a baby shower cake for a lady having her second baby with her boyfriend.
And a pagan solstice cake they would bake too.
With a pentagram design.
They's all in on that. Cafeteria christians as well as bakers.
In other words, they don't believe what YOU do, and they don't believe what you THINK they should if they're going to disagree with you. Ergo, they can't REALLY be Christians, because YOU are the final arbiter on what ALL Christians do and don't believe.
Piss off.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Why not? Since when are Christians without sin?
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
In other words, they don't believe what YOU do, and they don't believe what you THINK they should if they're going to disagree with you. Ergo, they can't REALLY be Christians, because YOU are the final arbiter on what ALL Christians do and don't believe.
Piss off.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Romans 12:17-21
American Standard Version (ASV)
17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men.
19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord.
20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
In other words, they don't believe what YOU do, and they don't believe what you THINK they should if they're going to disagree with you. Ergo, they can't REALLY be Christians, because YOU are the final arbiter on what ALL Christians do and don't believe.
Piss off.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Romans 12:17-21
American Standard Version (ASV)
17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men.
19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord.
20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Why not? Since when are Christians without sin?
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
Why not? Since when are Christians without sin?
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
Well apparently when it comes to treatment of gays in the public market place, Christians are without sin cause god told them to.
They can be Christians, but their application of Christianity is a bit screwed up. You can't claim you are adhering to your faith when you pick and choose what you will obey.
Romans 12:17-21
American Standard Version (ASV)
17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men.
19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord.
20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
That Scripture was meant for Christians. Not everyone in the United States is a Christian, and a Christian will not force those that are not Christian to follow the rules of Christianity.
Jesus didn't preach for Christians to force their beliefs on anyone. We live in a country that is inhabited by people of many religions/faiths. Why Jefferson believed in the separation of church and state.
The law in Oregon doesn't go by the Bible. They have a law that prohibits businesses from discriminating against citizens based on sexual preference. It's not hard to understand.
If you want to own a business in Oregon, you either try to change the law or obey the law, don't expect exemptions based on "faith".
Why not? Since when are Christians without sin?
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
What about the ones you do in the dark backroom of your bakery?
If someone doesn't taste the semen, did they ejaculate?
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
What about the ones you do in the dark backroom of your bakery?
If someone doesn't taste the semen, did they ejaculate?
For Christians, it's not about being found out by "someone" - God sees everything and they know it.
We are all sinful, but a true Christian recognizes when they have sinned (because he/she is convicted) and asks for forgiveness. They don't brag about not committing one specific sin while committing a different sin.
Claiming to discriminate someone covertly as opposed to overtly because you don't approve of their lifestyle goes against Christian principles.
What about the ones you do in the dark backroom of your bakery?
If someone doesn't taste the semen, did they ejaculate?
For Christians, it's not about being found out by "someone" - God sees everything and they know it.
What about the ones you do in the dark backroom of your bakery?
If someone doesn't taste the semen, did they ejaculate?
For Christians, it's not about being found out by "someone" - God sees everything and they know it.
I don't think they do. Why would they comment about privately jizzing on someones wedding cake?
Romans 12:17-21
American Standard Version (ASV)
17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men.
19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord.
20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
That Scripture was meant for Christians. Not everyone in the United States is a Christian, and a Christian will not force those that are not Christian to follow the rules of Christianity.
Jesus didn't preach for Christians to force their beliefs on anyone. We live in a country that is inhabited by people of many religions/faiths. Why Jefferson believed in the separation of church and state.
The law in Oregon doesn't go by the Bible. They have a law that prohibits businesses from discriminating against citizens based on sexual preference. It's not hard to understand.
If you want to own a business in Oregon, you either try to change the law or obey the law, don't expect exemptions based on "faith".
Ah, but my pt was the bakers didn't behave like christians, imo. It's true they were repayed in kind, and perhaps that was wrong, but as you say, not all are christians.
What about the ones you do in the dark backroom of your bakery?
If someone doesn't taste the semen, did they ejaculate?
For Christians, it's not about being found out by "someone" - God sees everything and they know it.
I don't think they do. Why would they comment about privately jizzing on someones wedding cake?
I forgive each and every one of them...but I will still kick their online ass when they post bullshit.
That's probably the route I would have taken. However, the LGBTs were exercising their right by suing them, since they probably knew the law prohibited it.Well, imo a GLBT christian could find the bakers' judgmental actions so hurtful that he/she wouldn't want their services, even if offered. Turning a cheek is one thing, asking to be hit is another.
I dunno though that christians don't sometimes violate the law. Certainly during the vietnam war, and civil rights movement, they did. Passive resistance did violate the law. Some anti-abortion folks are non-violent, as well. Though I find their support of finding the money and care for every baby to be unpersuasive.
