CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call

[westwall]

"He did not condition any U.S. support on a Biden investigation"

Who can even say this with a straight face? Are we all supposed to pretend we are stupid?

How about you show us in the transcript where it is said. And your assumptions and intimations are meaningless.

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It is clear as day, the summary memo is only 5 pages, read it, the whole thing was the sickening schmoozing and the glorifying praise of Trump and the wheeling and dealing dancing, and groveling for Arms....

And guess what Trump said?

''I need a favor though,,,''

And then goes in to his PERSONAL, politically motivated requested FAVOR of Crowdstrike and the Bidens and with his opinion of them...

And tells the guy to work with his PERSONAL lawyer/fixer/ consigliere, Giuliani




QUID PRO QUO

quid pro quo
/ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō/
noun
noun: quid pro quo; plural noun: quid pro quos

a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike. You know the Ukraine based system that was attacking our voting process.

Why on Earth do you not want to find out who was using it?

 

[Care4all]

They have a word for word transcript, it was hidden in above Top Secret, compartment files by WH Lawyers.

We do know how "perfect", and perfectly innocent, that call was upon learning that immediately after the call a bunch of cleaners in the form of White House lawyers arrived, confiscating everything - every note, tape, or whatever else there was - and hiding everything away.

If you want a report card of the state of this administration, consider White House lawyers - folks who are paid to ensure that everything goes by the book - are now being deployed to conceal and cover up whatever isn't done by the book, and pretty routinely, as it seems.

They are all criminals! Whatever, whomever Trump touches, rots....

one of those Whitehouse lawyers that hid the full transcript, was in on the call of the CIA Lawyer to the DOJ making the complaint on the Ukraine call between presidents...

then the DOJ erroneously came back and said there was no campaign finance law broken, without even going to the FEC on it, and with no mention of even looking for the other possible crimes like bribery, extortion, breaking his oath of office and the constitution....

this DOJ is corrupt

AMERICA FIRST!

 

[Care4all]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

But a timeline provided by U.S. officials familiar with the matter shows that multiple senior government officials appointed by Trump found the whistleblower's complaints credible, troubling and worthy of further inquiry starting soon after the president's July phone call.

While that timeline and the CIA general counsel's contact with the Justice Department has been previously disclosed, it has not been reported that the CIA's top lawyer intended her call to be a criminal referral about the president's conduct, acting under rules set forth in a memo governing how intelligence agencies should report allegations of federal crimes.

The fact that she and other top Trump administration political appointees saw potential misconduct in the whistleblower's early account of alleged presidential abuses puts a new spotlight on the Justice Department's later decision to decline to open a criminal investigation — a decision that the Justice Department said publicly was based purely on an analysis of whether the president committed a campaign finance law violation.

"They didn't do any of the sort of bread-and-butter type investigatory steps that would flush out what potential crimes may have been committed," said Berit Berger, a former federal prosecutor who heads the Center for the Advancement of Public Integrity at Columbia Law School. "I
While that timeline and the CIA general counsel's contact with the Justice Department has been previously disclosed, it has not been reported that the CIA's top lawyer intended her call to be a criminal referral about the president's conduct, acting under rules set forth in a memo governing how intelligence agencies should report allegations of federal crimes.

The fact that she and other top Trump administration political appointees saw potential misconduct in the whistleblower's early account of alleged presidential abuses puts a new spotlight on the Justice Department's later decision to decline to open a criminal investigation — a decision that the Justice Department said publicly was based purely on an analysis of whether the president committed a campaign finance law violation.

"They didn't do any of the sort of bread-and-butter type investigatory steps that would flush out what potential crimes may have been committed," said Berit Berger, a former federal prosecutor who heads the Center for the Advancement of Public Integrity at Columbia Law School. "I don't understand the rationale for that and it's just so contrary to how normal prosecutors work. We have started investigations on far less."

Great article.. So what was "the crime"?? Apparently even BLATANT strong arming of foreign power for favors can be done by just about ANY Congress critter.. Need examples???

I need a crime to give a hoot. Not just some gossip from NBC news...

What was his crime? Haven’t said there was one, yet. That is why it needs to be investigated. And, imo, with holding promised aid in exchange for an investigation into a political rival and the promise of an Oval Office date is as blatant as it gets in strong arming.

Perhaps you haven't heard.

The Ukrainian President didn't know about the withholding of military aid and Trump never mentioned it. In fact, the withholding of the aid happened weeks before the call and was done in order to pressure NATO into paying more of their fair share of support to Ukraine.

it was done weeks before the call and in the same breath you are trying to claim the Ukraine President did not KNOW IT?

please put your thinking cap on...

YES HE KNEW ABOUT IT! Seriously!

 

[Care4all]

The Justice Department declined to open an investigation because it has become the partisan arm of the GOP and protector of Trump.

Enforcing the law is subordinate to that.

Yea Obama DOJ NEVER did anything questionable AT ALL. fucking hypocrites.

No elected official is perfect, some are better, some are worse and that applies equally to the left and the right. That said there are scumwaffle individuals. I try hard to see both sides but sometimes I think a spade is a spade and falae moral equivalencies are not going to change ut.

The way everything looks, fron the limited array of facts (not conjecture, not conspircy theory) that are available to us is that Trump might have comnitted and act of corruption, using his offoce to withold aid, and promise an oval office meeting in exchange for a favor: investigate specifically, a political rival, based on unsubstantiated allegations, and make a public notice to that effect.

There is no way to take those facts and spin it into something acceptable. It realy isnt. It really really isnt. And once we start defending this sort of abuse of power, WHERE IS THE BOTTOM?

No, Obama did not do anything approaching this. Neither did Bush. That is left and right.

We need ti stop the false comparisons.

The fact is you have no clue what maobama or Bush did, they didn't have the leaks that exist in the Trump white house. Once again Trump asked Ukraine to cooperate with the US DOJ as they look into these situations. There is nothing untoward about that.

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The Trump administration did not ask Uktaine to cooperate with the DoJ.

Trump personally asked them to investigate Biden, not "these situations" but one specific person who just happened to be his political rival. He asked them to work with his PERSONAL lawyer in this matter.

Keep spinning the lies, it doesnt change the facts.

He asked for cooperation on the genesis of the Mueller probe and mentioned Attorney General Bar 4 times during the conversation. Biden and his son were mentioned once.

Child I'm not the one doing the spinning, that would be you.

Got to run for now, but will be back tonight.

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Barr denies his involvement... he knew nothing about this and is not working with the Ukraine...

yet Giuliani has been....

so, what's up with that?

 

[Care4all]

1 their corruption that could be cleaned up had ZERO to do with the Bidens from 3 years ago

2 they cleaned up a lot of their corruption and some time in May 2019, our State dept gave the Ukraine a ''clean bill of health''


Now tell me... what do you think Zelensky thought when the very country asking them to clean up their corruption... yet the President of the USA was holding his aid back and strong arming him, unless he illegally helped investigate Trump's upcoming political rival's son and made a Public Announcement that he was investigating him, so Trump could use it in his upcoming campaign?


Zelensky paraphased

''What?? The country's president that is asking me to get rid of the corruption here in the Ukraine wants me to work with his personal consigliere Giuliani, to help him in his own dirty and corrupt scheme for his own political reelection campaign?''

First let's get one thing straight, the favor Trump asked for was aid in ascertaining the genesis of the 2016 collusion delusion. If you can't admit that then there is no point in further discussion.

Second, if you read the transcript out loud, the mention of the Bidens lasted about 8 seconds of the 30 minute call and occurred toward the end of the call.

You're entitled to your own opinions, facts are facts, they belong to no one. Zelensky didn't take office till May, how could the State Dept given him a clean bill in May?

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Yes, it's an opinion!!

Yes, Crowdstrike is part of the collusion delusion conspiracy cooked up that would help manafort and trump' s ego.

We got only 5 to 10 minutes of the call in their summary, there were ellipses... right where the alleged quid pro quo took place

Could have been June, I will look for the link... it's possible it was a State dept analysis on corruption there on its own to assess the country.

Wow more conspiracy theories, you have no proof there were any gaps in the transcripts. If you actually read the transcripts, it was clear he asked Ukraine to cooperate with the US DOJ in both instances. That's another fact, there's nothing wrong with that.

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It is not transcript. It is a memo if a phone call. This administration, unlike prior administrations, stopped doing verbatim transcripts of calls within the first year.

Are you trying 5o say Obama was transparent?

Yes!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike.

Oh really? Then why were Trumps aides and diplomats concerned that the predient was leveraging security aid to ukrain in exchange for investigating Biden and his son?

Why did Ukraine draft an agreement to look into the Bidens, but not into Crowdstrike?

Why did the president's envoys pressure ukraine to investigate the Biden's, but not Crowdstrike?

Could it be...you're peddling shameless lies to protect dear leader? Or was everyone involved just confused by the genius of the orange turd?

 

[westwall]

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike.

Oh really? Then why were Trumps aides and diplomats concerned that the predient was leveraging security aid to ukrain in exchange for investigating Biden and his son?

Why did Ukraine draft an agreement to look into the Bidens, but not into Crowdstrike?

Why did the president's envoys pressure ukraine to investigate the Biden's, but not Crowdstrike?

Could it be...you're peddling shameless lies to protect dear leader? Or was everyone involved just confused by the genius of the orange turd?

The only people peddling lies are you and yours

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike.

Oh really? Then why were Trumps aides and diplomats concerned that the predient was leveraging security aid to ukrain in exchange for investigating Biden and his son?

Why did Ukraine draft an agreement to look into the Bidens, but not into Crowdstrike?

Why did the president's envoys pressure ukraine to investigate the Biden's, but not Crowdstrike?

Could it be...you're peddling shameless lies to protect dear leader? Or was everyone involved just confused by the genius of the orange turd?

The only people peddling lies are you and yours

Well that was a scared little limpdick response.

I know you can't account for the facts in your desperate little narrative. My questions were just an exercise to show that.

 

[westwall]

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike.

Oh really? Then why were Trumps aides and diplomats concerned that the predient was leveraging security aid to ukrain in exchange for investigating Biden and his son?

Why did Ukraine draft an agreement to look into the Bidens, but not into Crowdstrike?

Why did the president's envoys pressure ukraine to investigate the Biden's, but not Crowdstrike?

Could it be...you're peddling shameless lies to protect dear leader? Or was everyone involved just confused by the genius of the orange turd?

The only people peddling lies are you and yours

Well that was a scared little limpdick response.

I know you can't account for the facts in your desperate little narrative. My questions were just an exercise to show that.

Scared? In your dreams little one. I am looking forward to the coming revelations that throw your people into the gray bar Hilton

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The favor was to look into Crowdstrike.

Oh really? Then why were Trumps aides and diplomats concerned that the predient was leveraging security aid to ukrain in exchange for investigating Biden and his son?

Why did Ukraine draft an agreement to look into the Bidens, but not into Crowdstrike?

Why did the president's envoys pressure ukraine to investigate the Biden's, but not Crowdstrike?

Could it be...you're peddling shameless lies to protect dear leader? Or was everyone involved just confused by the genius of the orange turd?

The only people peddling lies are you and yours

Well that was a scared little limpdick response.

I know you can't account for the facts in your desperate little narrative. My questions were just an exercise to show that.

Scared? In your dreams little one. I am looking forward to the coming revelations that throw your people into the gray bar Hilton

Of course you are scared, in addition to just being a bit embarrassed of yourself. That's why you are throwing a little hissy fit when confronted with the very basic task of aligning your horseshit with the basic facts. This is a small ask that we even ask of children.

 

[Correll]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

Sounds like good little libs in the government are answering the call to Resist.

 

[Frannie]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

The whistleblower is part of a Trump prank on Schiff.

Oh boy this is gonna be great

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The whistleblower is part of a Trump prank on Schiff.

Haha.. your political posts might be dumber than your science posts. And that, my idiotic liddle' friend, is quite a feat.
Trump is panicking. That is clear.

 

[Frannie]

The whistleblower is part of a Trump prank on Schiff.

Haha.. your political posts might be dumber than your science posts. And that, my idiotic liddle' friend, is quite a feat.
Trump is panicking. That is clear.

Schiff pranked by radio hosts promising 'naked' Trump photos



Schiff is easy...……………….

 

[karpenter]

Apparently, most Dem activists are SHOCKED when a Repub develops a spine and gives the grief right back to them.. And lord knows, the amount of grief being slung and MISSING the target is huge....

They've Been Fighting A One-Sided Culture War For 50yrs
It's Not One Sided Anymore

re:
The mayor of Livermore California explains Trump’s popularity and success.
This is perhaps the best explanation for Trump's popularity.
Trump’s 'Lack of Decorum, Dignity, and Statesmanship' By Marshall Kamena, Mayor of Livermore, CA.
Rick Shares Livermore Mayors Marshall Kamena's Opinion

 

[Lakhota]

"Multiple whistleblowers" emerge in Trump-Ukraine case, lawyers say

Washington — The attorneys representing the whistleblower who filed a complaint about President Trump's dealings with Ukraine said they are representing "multiple whistleblowers" in connection to the case, including one with "first hand knowledge" of events.

"I can confirm that my firm and my team represent multiple whistleblowers in connection to the underlying August 12, 2019, disclosure to the Intelligence Community Inspector General," attorney Andrew Bakaj tweeted Sunday. "No further comment at this time."

"Multiple whistleblowers" emerge in Trump-Ukraine case, lawyers Andrew Bakaj and Mark Zaid say - CBS News

I thought I heard CNN mention a couple hours ago that there may be as many as 12 whistleblowers.

 

[Coyote]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

The whistleblower is part of a Trump prank on Schiff.

Oh boy this is gonna be great

You greatly overate the Emporer’s intelligence.

 

[Coyote]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

Sounds like good little libs in the government are answering the call to Resist.


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Sounds like good little cons are living up to their con...and corruption.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

ummmm Joe Biden broke the law, not President Trump.
Barry the Magnificent corrupted our government agencies.
He turned the FBI and the CIA into the corrupt Democratic Party's secret police.
Trump needs to clean-out all of the dirty players in the CIA and the FBI.

 

[Dick Foster]

Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken. This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.


CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call


WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.

The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.

Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.

In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.

Read the rest of the article using the link

Other than it's National Resources Division, the CIA is supposed to have NO legal function within the confines of the USA. Further it reports to the president of the United States i.e. Donald Trump.