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The plan all along, of course. Crash the system.
Both parties are engaged in crashing the other's priorities. Nothing new here.
Read what I'm writing, Jake. The plan was to crash the entire health care system, not reform it. And when it crashes, people will clamor for the government to take it over entirely. Nationalize it.
More power for government, more power over individual lives.
That's been the plan all along.
That is a start, editec. Just like Margaret Thatcher, I have no problem with a NHC approved by 85% of the population.
It's a start, meaning we'll throw out a bad bill and constantly tinker with it instead of working to get a good bill in the first place.
You can thank the far left and the right of the Dems for where we are, no one else.
They are responsible for this monstrosity.
My side lost the elections of 2008 and 2012. Now Mike Lee wants to sink Obamacare or bring down government, but he is willing to keep provisions of "no pre-existing provisions can be excluded" and "no lifetime caps".
When my GOP comes out with a realistic health care solution, other than saying 'free market remedies', the which have failed a good portion of Americans, then I will listen to Mike Lee.
Not until then.
No correlation exists, Frank, with your trolling and the OP.
We GOP failed in health care solutions. The people elected Obama, in part, because we failed.
And you want to go back to as it was? Not going to happen.
Frank, you are not GOP so you have nothing to say about the party.
Many of us realize that we screwed the pooch on this, and the free market solutions have not worked.
Frank, you are not GOP so you have nothing to say about the party.
Many of us realize that we screwed the pooch on this, and the free market solutions have not worked.
When did we try free market solutions? Between US patients having to subsidize drug sales around the world or risk being locked out of those markets, to requiring hospitals to treat cases for free and passing the costs to other patients (that 8 dollar Tylenol) to not allowing interstate sales, to unending government regulation at every level of healthcare, it seems to me that the free market was abandoned ages ago.
It's a start, meaning we'll throw out a bad bill and constantly tinker with it instead of working to get a good bill in the first place.
You can thank the far left and the right of the Dems for where we are, no one else.
They are responsible for this monstrosity.
Jake? Your side had a veto-proof majority and passed your entire agenda without a single Republican vote.
It's ALL Obama and your Dems -- 100%
It also costs between 800 million to a billion to develop new drugs and bring them to the market. That doesn't include selling the drugs overseas in countries that have price controls and passing those savings on to the American patient. So they're making billions. So what? They're also spending billions in the process.
You want cheap insurance, but you want insurance to cover pre-existing conditions. You can't have both. Insurance was never intended to make sure some landwhale who ate herself into Diabetes can get her test strips. It was intended to make sure that things like extended hospital stays and surgeries didn't bankrupt the insurance holder, just like home insurance and car insurance. It was Washington constantly changing regulations and pushing HMOs that changed all that.
Insurance was exactly for that, Steven, not for making 7% profit in all division every year forever.
You are making assertions without evidence, but if you are right, the GOP congress could have change it from 1994 to 2006.
Guess what?
Insurance was exactly for that, Steven, not for making 7% profit in all division every year forever.
You are making assertions without evidence, but if you are right, the GOP congress could have change it from 1994 to 2006.
Guess what?
Insurance was exactly for that, Steven, not for making 7% profit in all division every year forever.
You are making assertions without evidence, but if you are right, the GOP congress could have change it from 1994 to 2006.
Guess what?
So what if they made a profit? That's why people go into business in the first place.
Congress can't change the laws unilaterally. Want to guess how Slick Willie would have reacted if the GOP had pushed a bill onto his desk?
Insurance was exactly for that, Steven, not for making 7% profit in all division every year forever.
You are making assertions without evidence, but if you are right, the GOP congress could have change it from 1994 to 2006.
Guess what?
So what if they made a profit? That's why people go into business in the first place.
Congress can't change the laws unilaterally. Want to guess how Slick Willie would have reacted if the GOP had pushed a bill onto his desk?
Somebody above said the Dems changed them. Why couldn't the GOP.
No one has problems with profit, but when industry is conducting death panels, yea, there is a real problem.
Bill would have signed a real health care reform bill in a heart beat. George Bush certainly would.
Somebody above said the Dems changed them. Why couldn't the GOP.
It comes down to allocation of resources. Spend the money on someone who is terminal and that money isn't there for someone who isn't. Is it worth it to spend several hundred thousands of dollars on a procedure for someone who might have a miniscule chance to live or to spend that money on people that had a reasonable chance at recovery?No one has problems with profit, but when industry is conducting death panels, yea, there is a real problem.
Bill would have signed a real health care reform bill in a heart beat. George Bush certainly would.
The GOP had control of both Houses and the White House from 2001 to 2009. The Dems had control of both Houses with a Supermajority and the White House from 2009 to 2011. See the difference?
The simply reality is Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority from September 24, 2009 to February 4, 2010, as was noted by talkingpointsmemo.com
