Civil War: Dem Compares Obamacare Fight to Gettysburg

[Antares]

Frank, you are not GOP so you have nothing to say about the party.

Many of us realize that we screwed the pooch on this, and the free market solutions have not worked.

I am and I do...and I can tell you..REAL Repubs would spit you out.

 

[Katzndogz]

You can thank the far left and the right of the Dems for where we are, no one else.

They are responsible for this monstrosity.

Jake? Your side had a veto-proof majority and passed your entire agenda without a single Republican vote.

It's ALL Obama and your Dems -- 100%

Completely. But know it appears that Boehner and certain Repubes WANT Obamacare to stay put...

[SNIP] Republican leadership and how they continue to cave in on every single issue. Congress has the power of the purse to stop funding Obamacare and they just won't do it. We need to chip away at Obamacare thru the funding mechanisms. We need to either shut down certain parts of the government or else President Obama and Harry Reid will just wait for the Republicans to concede, which they have been doing. If Obamacare remains the law, then we can thank the current Republican leadership for not using the time to go after it now. The Senate will never repeal Obamacare fully, so it's the conservatives' job is to defund it any way it can. [/SNIP]

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Once we get rid of the democrat senate and increase the republican congress obamacare will be repealed completely. Delaying and obstucting it will have to do for now.

 

[The T]

The GOP had control of both Houses and the White House from 2001 to 2009. The Dems had control of both Houses with a Supermajority and the White House from 2009 to 2011. See the difference?

Bullshit.

The simply reality is Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority from September 24, 2009 to February 4, 2010, as was noted by talkingpointsmemo.com

FOX NEWS LIES: Obama only had a majority for 133 days, not two years - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com

Chris Wallace: Obama Had A Filibuster Proof Senate Majority For 2 Years | TPM LiveWire

Democrats, Not GOP, Mostly Controlled Congress Under Obama

Instead of accepting responsibility for the nation's ills, Obama apologists regularly blame Republicans in Congress for blocking the president's recovery agenda. This contention ignores the fact that the GOP controlled only one half of Congress for one half of Obama's term. Democrats have run the Senate for his full term, and controlled the House of Representatives for half that term.

In other words, during Obama's time in office Democrats exerted 75 percent of Congressional control. He got approval for his stimulus package, Obamacare, Dodd-Frank banking regulation, and all his major initiatives. If he had really wanted to hike taxes on the rich, he easily could have done so in his first two years in office. When it comes to his failures as president, Obama has no one to blame but himself and his own party.

 

[Antares]

No correlation exists, Frank, with your trolling and the OP.

We GOP failed in health care solutions. The people elected Obama, in part, because we failed.

And you want to go back to as it was? Not going to happen.

America detests the ACA, it played no role in any Obama win...now your Dem skirt is showing.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No correlation exists, Frank, with your trolling and the OP.

We GOP failed in health care solutions. The people elected Obama, in part, because we failed.

And you want to go back to as it was? Not going to happen.

America detests the ACA, it played no role in any Obama win...now your Dem skirt is showing.

You hate it. Right now worst polling is 39% against and 36% for and 24% waiting to see.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/u...th-law-largely-stand.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What Obama's win means for the Affordable Care Act - The Advisory Board Daily Briefing

Obamacare: With Obama's Win, Affordable Care Act Lives for Health Insurance - ABC News

Yell all you want. It is not going away. If the GOP loses the House next year, and it is beginning to seem possible, your worse nightmares, Roo, are going to come true.

 

[Antares]

No correlation exists, Frank, with your trolling and the OP.

We GOP failed in health care solutions. The people elected Obama, in part, because we failed.

And you want to go back to as it was? Not going to happen.

America detests the ACA, it played no role in any Obama win...now your Dem skirt is showing.

You hate it. Right now worst polling is 39% against and 36% for and 24% waiting to see.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/u...th-law-largely-stand.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What Obama's win means for the Affordable Care Act - The Advisory Board Daily Briefing

Obamacare: With Obama's Win, Affordable Care Act Lives for Health Insurance - ABC News

Yell all you want. It is not going away. If the GOP loses the House next year, and it is beginning to seem possible, your worse nightmares, Roo, are going to come true.

Thanks for proving America doesn't want it.

I hate it because I understand it....it is my business....but then I know what it is designed to do.

 

[Antares]

No correlation exists, Frank, with your trolling and the OP.

We GOP failed in health care solutions. The people elected Obama, in part, because we failed.

And you want to go back to as it was? Not going to happen.

America detests the ACA, it played no role in any Obama win...now your Dem skirt is showing.

You hate it. Right now worst polling is 39% against and 36% for and 24% waiting to see.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/u...th-law-largely-stand.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What Obama's win means for the Affordable Care Act - The Advisory Board Daily Briefing

Obamacare: With Obama's Win, Affordable Care Act Lives for Health Insurance - ABC News

Yell all you want. It is not going away. If the GOP loses the House next year, and it is beginning to seem possible, your worse nightmares, Roo, are going to come true.

And your Lib wet dream comes true...you never were able to fool anyone.

The house won't change hands...and your boy Nate Silver is worried that the Senate will.......

 

[Antares]

CBS...

while 46 percent expected it would make things worse for them.

CBS/NYT Poll: More Americans Than Ever Support Obamacare Repeal - Guy Benson

(smile) Nothing supports American's supporting the ACA......so solly Jake.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, you are not GOP so you have nothing to say about the party.

Many of us realize that we screwed the pooch on this, and the free market solutions have not worked.

Yes, Jake, those Free Market Prescription Drug Medicare Part D that Bush implemented...right Jake? You mean those Free Market solutions?

Do you get paid by the lie? You must be in Forbes 400

 

[JakeStarkey]

America detests the ACA, it played no role in any Obama win...now your Dem skirt is showing.

You hate it. Right now worst polling is 39% against and 36% for and 24% waiting to see.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/u...th-law-largely-stand.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What Obama's win means for the Affordable Care Act - The Advisory Board Daily Briefing

Obamacare: With Obama's Win, Affordable Care Act Lives for Health Insurance - ABC News

Yell all you want. It is not going away. If the GOP loses the House next year, and it is beginning to seem possible, your worse nightmares, Roo, are going to come true.

And your Lib wet dream comes true...you never were able to fool anyone.

The house won't change hands...and your boy Nate Silver is worried that the Senate will.......

Roo can't answer the blowing out of the water of his propositions, so he jive but can't thrive.

Either the GOP reaches out honestly to women, minorities, and immigrants, or the end of GOP gerrymandering in the states will begin in 2015.

 

[daveman]

Both parties are engaged in crashing the other's priorities. Nothing new here.

Read what I'm writing, Jake. The plan was to crash the entire health care system, not reform it. And when it crashes, people will clamor for the government to take it over entirely. Nationalize it.

More power for government, more power over individual lives.

That's been the plan all along.

That may well be true, just as the neo-cons and reactionaries tried to soak up all the priorities to their goals, and force a collapse of the social entitlements so they could be turned over to privatization.

This is what both parties do, daveman.

Force a collapse of social entitlements? How? By getting more and more people on government assistance?

That's what your side's doing, Jake, not the right.

 

[Antares]

You hate it. Right now worst polling is 39% against and 36% for and 24% waiting to see.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/u...th-law-largely-stand.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What Obama's win means for the Affordable Care Act - The Advisory Board Daily Briefing

Obamacare: With Obama's Win, Affordable Care Act Lives for Health Insurance - ABC News

Yell all you want. It is not going away. If the GOP loses the House next year, and it is beginning to seem possible, your worse nightmares, Roo, are going to come true.

And your Lib wet dream comes true...you never were able to fool anyone.

The house won't change hands...and your boy Nate Silver is worried that the Senate will.......

Roo can't answer the blowing out of the water of his propositions, so he jive but can't thrive.

Either the GOP reaches out honestly to women, minorities, and immigrants, or the end of GOP gerrymandering in the states will begin in 2015.

What language is this?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, you are not GOP so you have nothing to say about the party.

Many of us realize that we screwed the pooch on this, and the free market solutions have not worked.

Jake, the only people who are convinced you are "Real GOP" Are FranCoWtF and Rdean

 

[Freewill]

Once the healthy younger votes are in the system, the prices will plummet.

Assuming they won't use the system and in fact we are gouging out money from someone to give it to another, the liberal way.