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Coal miners…
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Missouri_Mike
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They could mine coal and be productive.What are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? LolCoal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
Rustic
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You can't be that stupid? Where do you think the materials for building alternative energy come from? Building batteries takes toxic materials they have to be at mined.. dip shitAlternative does not pollute.But there's plenty coal and oil and natural gas to harvest…No one's going to be building solar plants in the northern plains…They are finding more oil every day, another fossil fuel. Drill baby drill, Dig baby Dig, burn baby burn
Train, baby train.
For your new job.
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True. There's no one there.
Missouri_Mike
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Holy shit you caught him before he corrected. That makes this even funnier.Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?
What are their jobs, exactly?
Rustic
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Why not all of the above strategy?Coal mining now accounts for fewer than 70,000 U.S. jobs. By contrast, renewable energy — including wind, solar and biofuels — now accounts for more than 650,000 U.S. jobs. This doesn't even have to be a "tree hugger climate change" issue. Renewable energy is where the jobs are.why can't you give a number for the alternative energy employees? and where does alternative energy fall into on the list? got that? because if you say there are many more in the alternative energy field seems like a waste of money if it can't out rank the coal miners. meaning coal is more advanced.Coal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
Coal mining now accounts for fewer than 70,000 U.S. jobs. By contrast, renewable energy — including wind, solar and biofuels — now accounts for more than 650,000 U.S. jobs. This doesn't even have to be a "tree hugger climate change" issue. Renewable energy is where the jobs are.
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Coal mining is advanced? What a stupid statement.
Political Junky
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And coal miners can't?Get a real jobWhat are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? LolCoal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
Nosmo King
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Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…The perfect is the enemy of the good. Alternatives present far more benefits that defects.Like I am for all of the above, but renewables have to be absolutely reliable, absolutely affordable and absolutely feasible...I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetterNantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.
And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?
Rustic
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Well coal miners get six-figure incomes, two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing, many times at least triple pay on holidays... and they are not fleecing the American public like civilian federal government jobs to do.And coal miners can't?Get a real jobWhat are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? LolCoal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
Rustic
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No, because it's the only viable source, Powder River coal power plant...Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…The perfect is the enemy of the good. Alternatives present far more benefits that defects.Like I am for all of the above, but renewables have to be absolutely reliable, absolutely affordable and absolutely feasible...I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetter
And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?
Nosmo King
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And is Powder River 'perfect'? Where do they dispose of their coal ash? Do they have scrubbers on the stacks? Can they burn high sulfur coal?No, because it's the only viable source, Powder River coal power plant...Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…The perfect is the enemy of the good. Alternatives present far more benefits that defects.Like I am for all of the above, but renewables have to be absolutely reliable, absolutely affordable and absolutely feasible...I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.
And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?
How close to the Powder River perfect standard do alternatives have to get?
Rustic
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First of all renewables don't fill all gaps, till then it's best with an all of the above strategy.And is Powder River 'perfect'? Where do they dispose of their coal ash? Do they have scrubbers on the stacks? Can they burn high sulfur coal?No, because it's the only viable source, Powder River coal power plant...Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…The perfect is the enemy of the good. Alternatives present far more benefits that defects.Like I am for all of the above, but renewables have to be absolutely reliable, absolutely affordable and absolutely feasible...
How close to the Powder River perfect standard do alternatives have to get?
Powder river is up to the standards that Wyoming requires… That's all that is needed
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I just looked it up. They make $50k. You just proved what I've always said. Cut in half whatever people say they make.Coal miners get six-figure incomes, and most times They get two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing and triple time at least on Holidays...Getting rid of stupidly retarded regulations on Coal has been the most harmful…The free market is killing coal.
Yep. along with fracking.
But don't expect RWNJs to understand that.
Not surprised that you agree with poisoning the water that children drink.
If there's a good chance he might die if he works in that coal mine for 30 years, yet he still takes the job, do you think he cares if some people he doesn't know die of cancer because of his pollution? Fuck no. All he wants is that $50K a year. Best job in town. So what some people will die. That didn't stop Rick Snyder in Michigan when he wanted to save some money he still gave people lead poisoning.
By the way I don't work for coal mine I've been self-employed for over 20 years selling firearms and ammo…
PS. You may mean they used to make six figures. Past tense
Rustic
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They may make 50K before overtime... most people I know that work in the fields and mines work 90+ hour weeks.I just looked it up. They make $50k. You just proved what I've always said. Cut in half whatever people say they make.Coal miners get six-figure incomes, and most times They get two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing and triple time at least on Holidays...Getting rid of stupidly retarded regulations on Coal has been the most harmful…Yep. along with fracking.
But don't expect RWNJs to understand that.
Not surprised that you agree with poisoning the water that children drink.
If there's a good chance he might die if he works in that coal mine for 30 years, yet he still takes the job, do you think he cares if some people he doesn't know die of cancer because of his pollution? Fuck no. All he wants is that $50K a year. Best job in town. So what some people will die. That didn't stop Rick Snyder in Michigan when he wanted to save some money he still gave people lead poisoning.
By the way I don't work for coal mine I've been self-employed for over 20 years selling firearms and ammo…
PS. You may mean they used to make six figures. Past tense
No most of them make six figures… Your sources wrong
Nosmo King
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So you're willing to overlook all the imperfections of coal, but demanding perfection from alternatives. Is your position thought out, or part of a political agenda?First of all renewables don't feel all gaps, till then it's best with an all of the above strategy.And is Powder River 'perfect'? Where do they dispose of their coal ash? Do they have scrubbers on the stacks? Can they burn high sulfur coal?No, because it's the only viable source, Powder River coal power plant...Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…The perfect is the enemy of the good. Alternatives present far more benefits that defects.
How close to the Powder River perfect standard do alternatives have to get?
Powder river is up to the standards that Wyoming requires… That's all that is needed
Cutting the government in half is one thing I hope the Republicans do. The EPA, Dept of energy, education, etc could all be shrunk and I think we will all survive.They could mine coal and be productive.What are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? LolCoal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
Political Junky
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We should pay them well for producing something that's not needed? Talk about welfare.Well coal miners get six-figure incomes, two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing, many times at least triple pay on holidays... and they are not fleecing the American public like civilian federal government jobs to do.And coal miners can't?Get a real jobWhat are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? LolCoal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
Rustic
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Reliability and cost are the two most important things for energy... both are major problems for renewables.So you're willing to overlook all the imperfections of coal, but demanding perfection from alternatives. Is your position thought out, or part of a political agenda?First of all renewables don't feel all gaps, till then it's best with an all of the above strategy.And is Powder River 'perfect'? Where do they dispose of their coal ash? Do they have scrubbers on the stacks? Can they burn high sulfur coal?No, because it's the only viable source, Powder River coal power plant...Were you "forced" into coal? Do you know what fuel provides your power? Do you know what plant produces your power?Until they perfect alternatives people should not be forced into them…
How close to the Powder River perfect standard do alternatives have to get?
Powder river is up to the standards that Wyoming requires… That's all that is needed
Like I said I'm for all of the above, as long as they are reliable, affordable and consistent.
Rustic
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We could not exist up here without coal and oil…We should pay them well for producing something that's not needed? Talk about welfare.Well coal miners get six-figure incomes, two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing, many times at least triple pay on holidays... and they are not fleecing the American public like civilian federal government jobs to do.And coal miners can't?Get a real jobWhat are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? Lol
What are government employees supposed to do without their jobs?
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Hillary had the only plan for the coal miners. Job retraining.Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?
Coal is the dirtiest fuel on earth and a major contributor to global warming.
Rustic
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In your opinion. Jack weedHillary had the only plan for the coal miners. Job retraining.Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?
Coal is the dirtiest fuel on earth and a major contributor to global warming.
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