Coal miners…

[Rustic]

Closing down coal mines just resulted in more welfare… fact

The free market is killing coal.

Yep. along with fracking.

But don't expect RWNJs to understand that.

Getting rid of stupidly retarded regulations on Coal has been the most harmful…

Not surprised that you agree with poisoning the water that children drink.

If there's a good chance he might die if he works in that coal mine for 30 years, yet he still takes the job, do you think he cares if some people he doesn't know die of cancer because of his pollution? Fuck no. All he wants is that $50K a year. Best job in town. So what some people will die. That didn't stop Rick Snyder in Michigan when he wanted to save some money he still gave people lead poisoning.

Coal miners get six-figure incomes, and most times They get two weeks on two weeks off, profit-sharing and triple time at least on Holidays...
By the way I don't work for coal mine I've been self-employed for over 20 years selling firearms and ammo…

 

[jc456]

Closing down coal mines just resulted in more welfare… fact

The free market is killing coal.

Yep. along with fracking.

But don't expect RWNJs to understand that.

Getting rid of stupidly retarded regulations on Coal has been the most harmful…

Not surprised that you agree with poisoning the water that children drink.

If there's a good chance he might die if he works in that coal mine for 30 years, yet he still takes the job, do you think he cares if some people he doesn't know die of cancer because of his pollution? Fuck no. All he wants is that $50K a year. Best job in town. So what some people will die. That didn't stop Rick Snyder in Michigan when he wanted to save some money he still gave people lead poisoning.

well not to get too far off topic, the climate change you speak of has never been proven. anytime you wish to do that you do that on the environmental forum. I've been in there long enough to merely chuckle at your lack of climate knowledge.

Coal miners produce electricity that saves millions from dying from cold. so I'll take them. Thanks.

 

[bendog]

Not exactly a low skill job, but not one with a lot of growth potential.

What Are the Qualifications to Be a Coal Miner?

 

[jc456]

Not exactly a low skill job, but not one with a lot of growth potential.

What Are the Qualifications to Be a Coal Miner?

and?

 

[bendog]

Not exactly a low skill job, but not one with a lot of growth potential.

What Are the Qualifications to Be a Coal Miner?

and?

They may want to check into transferable skills.

 

[jc456]

Not exactly a low skill job, but not one with a lot of growth potential.

What Are the Qualifications to Be a Coal Miner?

and?

They may want to check into transferable skills.

why's that?

 

[bendog]

because there's not a great market for trolls such as yourself

 

[jc456]

because there's not a great market for trolls such as yourself

but there is a market for coal miners. right? Trump just gave it back to them right? what do you have? squat juice again.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That's why you put those plants where no one cares - like in western South Dakota, Wyoming and the like

The fact is that these are areas are not densely populated and you cannot sell enough coal to make it profitable. Also you do not address the cheapness of natural gas which is also clean burning.,

No doubt. Gas doesn't need a mile long coal train travelling hundreds or thousands of miles to get to where it's needed.

Coal-fired energy plants can be anywhere, the electricity can be brought to anywhere from them.

That's not really true. Electrical transmission is not infinite and is really inefficient. The further it goes, the more that is lost.

True, but the supply of coal is almost unlimited...

As is the sun and the wind, just without all of the filth.

 

[Nosmo King]

Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?

Nantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.

Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetter

I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.

And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Coal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.

why can't you give a number for the alternative energy employees? and where does alternative energy fall into on the list? got that? because if you say there are many more in the alternative energy field seems like a waste of money if it can't out rank the coal miners. meaning coal is more advanced.

650k

seems like alternative energy is way inefficient if it takes that many people to operate their limited energy supply. what a fking waste of money.

It's not limited in any way. The growth in that sector is the largest in the economy.

 

[Nosmo King]

Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?

Nantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.

We still have a need for inexpensive energy in this country. When alternative fuels become as cheap and plentiful as coal then let's talk. All those other jobs died out from lack of need or demand. Not so for coal, at least not yet.

Coal cannot economically compete with natural gas. Coal is dirty, bulky and dangerous to mine.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?

Nantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.

Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetter

I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.

And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?

I don't get their resistance,(no pun intended), to alternate energy. It just makes sense to do it sustainably and cleanly. Who cares as long as the lights come on when you hit the switch?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

because there's not a great market for trolls such as yourself

but there is a market for coal miners. right? Trump just gave it back to them right? what do you have? squat juice again.

Trump can't make people buy more coal, fool.

 

[task0778]

FYI:

Coal may surpass natural gas as most common electricity generation fuel this winter
Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Short-Term Energy Outlook, November 2016

After declining for several months, the share of U.S. electricity fueled by coal is expected to slowly begin growing when compared to the same period last year. In contrast, the share of generation from natural gas is expected to experience year-over-year declines. Based on expected temperatures and market conditions, coal is expected to surpass natural gas as the most common electricity generating fuel in December, January, and February.
Natural gas had long been the second-most prevalent fuel for electricity generation behind coal, but it became the power industry’s primary fuel source for the first time in April 2015. Natural gas-fired generation has surpassed coal-fired generation in most months since then, and generation fueled by natural gas reached record levels this past summer. During the first six months of 2016, natural gas supplied 36% of total U.S. electricity generation compared with 31% for coal.
During periods where available generation capacity exceeds electricity load, selection of which capacity to run often reflects relative operating costs, which largely reflect generators' fueling cost. When measured in terms of the cost of fuel it takes to generate a megawatthour (MWh) of electricity, to account for the different efficiencies of power plants, the prices for natural gas and coal were relatively competitive for much of 2015. At the beginning of 2016, the national average price of natural gas was consistently below the cost of coal delivered to power plants, reaching a low point of about $16/MWh in March, while coal has averaged between $21/MWh and $23/MWh for the past two years. Natural gas prices were low earlier this year because of ample fuel supplies and mild winter weather, which also reduced overall electricity demand.
Note: Cost of fuel delivered to electricity generation (measured in $/mmBtu) converted to $/MWh using assumed heat rates of 10,000 Btu/kWh for coal and 7,200 Btu/kWh for natural gas.
Spot prices for natural gas have generally been rising in recent weeks. The cost of natural gas delivered to electric generators, which includes both spot market and contract purchases, has been increasing as well. The latest available data indicate that the generation cost of natural gas averaged $21.30/MWh in August, which was nearly identical to the cost of coal.
EIA’s November Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO) projects that natural gas prices delivered to the power sector will continue rising. The STEO forecasts the average natural gas generation cost to reach a seasonal peak of nearly $31/MWh in February, which would be about 40% higher than the projected cost of coal for that month on a national average basis. Because coal costs vary widely across regions, relative fueling costs in particular markets may differ significantly from national averages.
The higher costs of natural gas relative to coal are likely to encourage the industry to use more coal to fuel electricity generation than in the recent past. Forecast cooler winter temperatures, especially in areas where coal is dominant, also contribute to higher projected coal use in power generation. If winter temperatures end up warmer than forecast, natural gas prices would likely stay low, which would reduce the incentive to use more coal-fired generation.
By the middle of 2017, increased generation from renewable energy sources is expected to reduce the generation shares of both coal and natural gas. In July 2017, projected generating capacity from utility-scale solar and wind plants is 57% and 10% higher, respectively, than in July 2016.
Coal may surpass natural gas as most common electricity generation fuel this winter - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

 

[task0778]

Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?

Nantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.

Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetter

I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.

And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?

I don't get their resistance,(no pun intended), to alternate energy. It just makes sense to do it sustainably and cleanly. Who cares as long as the lights come on when you hit the switch?

Alternative energy is still more costly than coal or natural gas. A lot of people can't afford the higher prices for alternative sources of energy. One day that will change but that day is not here yet.

 

[Rustic]

Not exactly a low skill job, but not one with a lot of growth potential.

What Are the Qualifications to Be a Coal Miner?

and?

They may want to check into transferable skills.

There is nothing wrong with coal mining and oil drilling, why would they want to transfer to the other jobs?
Who the fuck would want to work in the renewable energy sector? With all the fucking self righteous ass wipes that you would have to work with...

 

[Timmy]

Coal is third behind petroleum and natural gas in the US.
Coal employs about 70,000. Alternative energy employs several times that number.

What are coalminers supposed to do without their jobs? Collect welfare? Lol

Funny you should mention that .

Coal miners actually have their own welfare program!
Division of Coal Mine Workers' Compensation (DCMWC) | Benefits.gov

 

[Rustic]

The fact is that these are areas are not densely populated and you cannot sell enough coal to make it profitable. Also you do not address the cheapness of natural gas which is also clean burning.,

No doubt. Gas doesn't need a mile long coal train travelling hundreds or thousands of miles to get to where it's needed.

Coal-fired energy plants can be anywhere, the electricity can be brought to anywhere from them.

That's not really true. Electrical transmission is not infinite and is really inefficient. The further it goes, the more that is lost.

True, but the supply of coal is almost unlimited...

As is the sun and the wind, just without all of the filth.

Wind energy is a joke, it cannot be relied on whatsoever. Andsolar while more reliable it is very expensive and both rely on toxic chemicals to make up the batteries.

 

[Rustic]

Need to keep on doing their jobs, because without their jobs, coal mining jobs what would they do?

Nantucket whalers need to keep on doing their jobs. Carriage makers need to keep on doing their jobs. Milk men need to keep on doing their jobs. Lamplighters and town criers need to keep on doing their jobs.

Fossil fuel's are here to stay… Live with it bed wetter

I'm not wetting my bed. I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of your post.

And fossil fuels are doomed to the ashcan of history. Don't you believe that there are safer, cheaper and less polluting ways of producing power?

Like I am for all of the above, but renewables have to be absolutely reliable, absolutely affordable and absolutely feasible...