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We, the People,Taking the Law BACK Into Our Own HandsThe Second Amendment didn't shoot up a bunch of students. A person did. A person who talked about doing it before he did it. The NRA didn't shot anybody either. The FBI knew about this guy's threats and so did the school.
Tell us, Wry Catcher. How could this lunatic have been stopped from harming others?
He was said to have purchased the gun or guns legally. We need a comprehensive computer program able to collect all data on individuals who are profiled as a danger to the community, and said program accessed by all gun shops in the nation. And, anyone Identified and places in the do not sell program, who attempts to make a purchase, require the gun shop or seller to the effort to local LE.
Any person who sells a gun without a clear search on said program should be charged with a felony, and be held fiscally responsible for any harm done to another.
Those who meet the profile should be placed into the computer program Immediately, and the person so identified should be interviewed by local LE, to determine if the person fit the profile, or not.
Horseshit.
"Horseshit"? Wrong, the deaths of 17 school kids yesterday, and an unknown number of kids in schools who experienced a similar event, will have the image of this horrific violence for a lifetime.
Horseshit is the NRA's opposition to all efforts to control guns in America. In the 1993-94 the NRA spent 2.3 million dollars during the election cycle; in the 2011-2012 election cycle, they spent $24.8 million.
This is why I consider the NRA a terrorist organization. Any member of Congress who supports any gun control measure, will have the NRA sponsoring someone who supports their policy - no gun control, not way - to run against them.
No, the left is a terrorist organization. You created a violent, criminal mob (of which you are a part of) and then claim that we should be disarmed when your mob members kill people.
We know who is to blame. It isn't guns. It's democrats.
They should have locked up the kid when he made the threats.Interesting. We need more data bases based on profiling and in this guy's case, things he said online. You believe that threatening gun dealers fiscally would stop crazy people from hurting others with guns.The Second Amendment didn't shoot up a bunch of students. A person did. A person who talked about doing it before he did it. The NRA didn't shot anybody either. The FBI knew about this guy's threats and so did the school.
Tell us, Wry Catcher. How could this lunatic have been stopped from harming others?
He was said to have purchased the gun or guns legally. We need a comprehensive computer program able to collect all data on individuals who are profiled as a danger to the community, and said program accessed by all gun shops in the nation. And, anyone Identified and places in the do not sell program, who attempts to make a purchase, require the gun shop or seller to the effort to local LE.
Any person who sells a gun without a clear search on said program should be charged with a felony, and be held fiscally responsible for any harm done to another.
Those who meet the profile should be placed into the computer program Immediately, and the person so identified should be interviewed by local LE, to determine if the person fit the profile, or not.
In this case, the FBI knew about his threat. Do you think they should have done something more than mention it to the school? If so, what?
Without getting into a long discussion about what constitutes a "military style" gun, how about this--I will decide what I need and you decide what you need.One truthism not even debatable is no citizen needs a military style gun for hunting or protecting his home.
Unless the gun was manufacture before 1986, this ban is already in place.Congress needs create a law that only permits the police and military to have those type of automatic weapons.
Period.
People 'judged' mentally ill by a cubicle monkey in the Social Security Administration, because they couldn't handle their own finances.
One of Obamas BIGGEST farces
If every person at that school was armed, this would have never happened.Solutions from assholes like you : do nothing.
Like my daughter, who is not only trained in the use of a weapon, but also able to carry the weapon concealed and a teacher. More teachers like her, less likely some liberal punk kid will try some shit with her.. Women's Choice, right, you liberals always say you are for women and their choice?Florida shooting:
Parkland school student calls Donald Trump a 'piece of s***' over tweet of condolence
'Prayers won’t fix this. But gun control will prevent it from happening again', says teen
Florida shooting victim calls Donald Trump a 'f*****g piece of s**t' over condolence message
What gun control, besides total weapon bans and confiscation would have prevented this?
Actual voluntary retired armed guards at all schools, that's who.
Some of these guys can be terrorism by proxy, i.e. they just read up on something, decided it matched their nuttery, and followed through in its name. To me that isn't real terrorism, that's some nutter just looking for an excuse.
In early June 2016, the trio of Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner took a meeting with a Putin-connected lawyer... Former Trump White House adviser Steve Bannon has dubbed that meeting "treasonous."
A Potential Game Changer
The allegation that Russia funneled money into the NRA – to directly support Trump's presidential bid – is staggering.
Until now, we've understood the Russian support of Trump to have been oblique, delivered by a cadre of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and by the release of hacked DNC and Clinton campaign emails through Wikileaks.
The notion that the Kremlin was supporting Trump's presidential bid financially – and through an organization that holds itself up as a paragon of American patriotism – is almost unreal.
If the allegation bears out, it raises unsettling questions:
How much money did Torshin deliver?
Did the NRA understand that this money was coming from Moscow?
Did the Trump campaign?
Did Russian funds only support Trump – or did the money infiltrate the NRA's broader mission of electing Republicans? (In total, the NRA spent nearly $52 million in the 2016 general election on dozens of House and Senate races.)
Does Russian influence have anything to do with the fascistic turn in NRA messaging?
The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here’s What You Need to Know
"The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee."
Update: Militia says school shooting suspect was member
They can have treatment inside locked facilities.
But the thing that people aren't aware of...there is no cure for mental illness. Treatment doesn't cure it. It doesn't even necessarily make it better. In fact, many times, it makes it worse.
People 'judged' mentally ill by a cubicle monkey in the Social Security Administration, because they couldn't handle their own finances.
One of Obamas BIGGEST farces
You're absolutely "correct".....Who the fuck should stop a 19 year old with depression and other social issues from buying an AR-!5 to take revenge on the world????.................Those 17 kids died to help "pay" for your sins...
One more voter the democrats will not get.Henceforth I won't be voting for any politician who's taken more than $1000 in blood money from the NRA in any given year.
Not likely
National Rifle Assn: Recipients | OpenSecrets
I have no fear whatever of Muslim terrorists from Syria, but NRA nuts keep me awake at night.I don't think it was a NRA member who shot up the San Bernardino Christmas party or Orlando Gay Bar. But hey, you stay up at night, living in fear, just if I am around you and a Muslim is yelling Allah Ooh Akbar and coming at you to kill you, just let me know to get out of his way.I have no fear whatever of Muslim terrorists from Syria, but NRA nuts keep me awake at night.
You'll never eliminate all the predators. You must secure the schools and protect the prey.
What the fuck is a "real" conversation about how to prevent school shootings? What the fuck does that bullshit mean?
What actions?How do you know they're lying? Because someone told you? There has not been any significant gun legislation since AR-15's were outlawed way back. That expired. Where is any indication they are lying about what they will do in the future?I support taking bumpstocks off the shelves, I'm on record supporting this. Here's what you fail to grasp, gun control advocates have no intention of stopping there.
Bill Ruger wouldn't sell high-capacity magazines because he didn't want Ruger firearms used for what we're seeing today. I have no problem with 5 shot magazines and banning bump stocks. I saw what spray and pray got units in Vietnam....overrun. If you can't get the job done with 5 rounds you better go get some training.
My problem with bump stocks is they are being used to circumvent the restrictions on automatic weapons, avoiding the tax stamps and government oversight. I'd get on board with magazine restrictions also. There is common ground on common sense gun control law, if only the anti gun advocates were not such lying dishonest scum we could come together and accomplish something, but we know they have no intention of honoring any compromise.
Their actions prove they are liars.
In early June 2016, the trio of Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner took a meeting with a Putin-connected lawyer... Former Trump White House adviser Steve Bannon has dubbed that meeting "treasonous."
A Potential Game Changer
The allegation that Russia funneled money into the NRA – to directly support Trump's presidential bid – is staggering.
Until now, we've understood the Russian support of Trump to have been oblique, delivered by a cadre of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and by the release of hacked DNC and Clinton campaign emails through Wikileaks.
The notion that the Kremlin was supporting Trump's presidential bid financially – and through an organization that holds itself up as a paragon of American patriotism – is almost unreal.
If the allegation bears out, it raises unsettling questions:
How much money did Torshin deliver?
Did the NRA understand that this money was coming from Moscow?
Did the Trump campaign?
Did Russian funds only support Trump – or did the money infiltrate the NRA's broader mission of electing Republicans? (In total, the NRA spent nearly $52 million in the 2016 general election on dozens of House and Senate races.)
Does Russian influence have anything to do with the fascistic turn in NRA messaging?
The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here’s What You Need to Know
"The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee."
Update: Militia says school shooting suspect was member
"The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee."
Update: Militia says school shooting suspect was member
"Hey Bernie, get your people in line." - candidate Trump
Is the GOP now the party of authoritarianism?
White Nationalist is a KKK member, who we all know are Southern White Democrats. Always were always will be... Next.....The leader of a white nationalist militia
View attachment 176901THIS my friends is actual leadership.
Even though Obama was unable to get anything done, he dug deep for a proper response instead of more #ThoughtsAndPrayers.
The final 2/3 of this speech after the Roseburg Oregon shooting was ad libbed and straight from the heart.
President Obama is the type president this country craves right now.... not only for leadership with this gun crisis but all areas.
We told you Trump was unfit to be president and we see it more and more every single day.
Some of these guys can be terrorism by proxy, i.e. they just read up on something, decided it matched their nuttery, and followed through in its name. To me that isn't real terrorism, that's some nutter just looking for an excuse.
Not to nitpick, I generally agree with you, but seems to me the problem of availability of incitement materials is a problem. Take the Unabomber: he was wholly self-generated, apparently. Had his own manifesto from his own mind, made and mailed bombs for years. He thought he was a terrorist, but many of us would not agree: he was just a highly intelligent crazyhead loner.
But some of these crazies who are falling into schizophrenia as probably this kid Cruz was, get themselves targeted by ISIS and al Qaeda who are very happy to use them. If that's the case here, I'd sure like to see that shut down.
