Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

I mention SA because both SA and Venezuela have economies based on oil and both are socialist. Both are corrupt as well

Only one has collapsed. And it collapsed because of the MASSIVE corruption. Ya just can't steal ALL the fucking money and keep a country going

So then we can agree on one thing: Socialism and communism create a corrupt political system in which the leadership elitists prosper, while the common people suffer.

No, not at all.
Socialism and communism require communal, collaborative, and collective decision making and profit sharing.
When you have an elite leadership that prospers at the expense of others, that is pure capitalism.
 
I mention SA because both SA and Venezuela have economies based on oil and both are socialist. Both are corrupt as well

Only one has collapsed. And it collapsed because of the MASSIVE corruption. Ya just can't steal ALL the fucking money and keep a country going

So then we can agree on one thing: Socialism and communism create a corrupt political system in which the leadership elitists prosper, while the common people suffer.

No, not at all.
Socialism and communism require communal, collaborative, and collective decision making and profit sharing.
When you have an elite leadership that prospers at the expense of others, that is pure capitalism.

Seriously? You mean like Venezuela is a "purely capitalist" country?

:laughing0301:
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.
 
I mention SA because both SA and Venezuela have economies based on oil and both are socialist. Both are corrupt as well

Only one has collapsed. And it collapsed because of the MASSIVE corruption. Ya just can't steal ALL the fucking money and keep a country going

So then we can agree on one thing: Socialism and communism create a corrupt political system in which the leadership elitists prosper, while the common people suffer.

No, not at all.
Socialism and communism require communal, collaborative, and collective decision making and profit sharing.
When you have an elite leadership that prospers at the expense of others, that is pure capitalism.

Seriously? You mean like Venezuela is a "purely capitalist" country?

:laughing0301:


Venezuela is petrochemical dictatorship of either party.

Idiot righties, the country has a past that you very convieniently forget.
 
I mention SA because both SA and Venezuela have economies based on oil and both are socialist. Both are corrupt as well

Only one has collapsed. And it collapsed because of the MASSIVE corruption. Ya just can't steal ALL the fucking money and keep a country going

So then we can agree on one thing: Socialism and communism create a corrupt political system in which the leadership elitists prosper, while the common people suffer.

No, not at all.
Socialism and communism require communal, collaborative, and collective decision making and profit sharing.
When you have an elite leadership that prospers at the expense of others, that is pure capitalism.

Seriously? You mean like Venezuela is a "purely capitalist" country?

:laughing0301:

It has a President & Congress.

Alaska has profit sharing .

Venezuela's problem are not its form of government. It is corruption..
 
But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.
It's a copy of a German rifle, but yeah, I do agree they had the mass manufacturing process down.

In fact, communism was all about industrialization. Not so much on human rights or environmental protection.

But they did build a lot.

The AK is in no way as complex or well-manufactured as the German StG-44. It was designed to a simple peasant could pick one up and operate it with very little training. The only similarity is that they both used a shortened cartridge, which allowed troops to carry more ammunition, and a large-capacity removable magazine.

But as far as the internal and external design, there are virtually no similarities.

There are a few superficial similarities.
Besides the short cartridge, they both have a fairly straight stock lined up with the barrel, and they both used stamped sheet metal receiver construction. I know the AK uses a simple rotating bolt turned buy a gas powered wedge, but I don't know what the locking mechanism in on the StG 44?
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.


I am.
For example, we need to socialize medicine to end the monopoly the insurance companies created.
We need to socialize broadband internet, so that everyone can get reasonable access.
We need to socialize mass transit better so that we can conserve fossil fuel and pollute less.
We likely will need to work on better socialization of food production as populations increase, even though farms are already socialized to a degree.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
So you know & chose to lie.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.

Oh really?
How are VA hospitals NOT socialism?
 
But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.
It's a copy of a German rifle, but yeah, I do agree they had the mass manufacturing process down.

In fact, communism was all about industrialization. Not so much on human rights or environmental protection.

But they did build a lot.

The AK is in no way as complex or well-manufactured as the German StG-44. It was designed to a simple peasant could pick one up and operate it with very little training. The only similarity is that they both used a shortened cartridge, which allowed troops to carry more ammunition, and a large-capacity removable magazine.

But as far as the internal and external design, there are virtually no similarities.

There are a few superficial similarities.
Besides the short cartridge, they both have a fairly straight stock lined up with the barrel, and they both used stamped sheet metal receiver construction. I know the AK uses a simple rotating bolt turned buy a gas powered wedge, but I don't know what the locking mechanism in on the StG 44?

I own an AK but having never disassembled an StG44, I'm not sure. But I do see a similarity in the design of the gas piston and bolt, so I guess the commies did steal part of the design. Which proves the point that socialism and communism has never produced or manufactured anything they didn't steal from someone else.

stg44-sturmgewehr.jpg


ak47-disassembly-3787.jpg
 
I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.

It already is dumass. It's all around you in so many ways...and very few would actually want to change that if they actually looked at it
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
So you know & chose to lie.

It's no lie that this will never be a socialist country, no matter how badly you want it to be. Given another term of Trump, the liberal progressive/socialist/communist/ movement will pretty much be extinct.

Good riddance. I can't wait for them to all die off.
 
But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.
It's a copy of a German rifle, but yeah, I do agree they had the mass manufacturing process down.

In fact, communism was all about industrialization. Not so much on human rights or environmental protection.

But they did build a lot.

The AK is in no way as complex or well-manufactured as the German StG-44. It was designed to a simple peasant could pick one up and operate it with very little training. The only similarity is that they both used a shortened cartridge, which allowed troops to carry more ammunition, and a large-capacity removable magazine.

But as far as the internal and external design, there are virtually no similarities.

There are a few superficial similarities.
Besides the short cartridge, they both have a fairly straight stock lined up with the barrel, and they both used stamped sheet metal receiver construction. I know the AK uses a simple rotating bolt turned buy a gas powered wedge, but I don't know what the locking mechanism in on the StG 44?

I own an AK but having never disassembled an StG44, I'm not sure. But I do see a similarity in the design of the gas piston and bolt, so I guess the commies did steal part of the design. Which proves the point that socialism and communism has never produced or manufactured anything they didn't steal from someone else.

stg44-sturmgewehr.jpg


ak47-disassembly-3787.jpg

Thanks for the diagrams.
Very interesting.
But remember that the German weapons were also being funded under military contract, so were also built by socialism.
It is not like there were lots of people wanting to buy an StG-44 privately.
 
I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.

It already is dumass. It's all around you in so many ways...and very few would actually want to change that if they actually looked at it

Typical leftist answer: Not a single one of you has mentioned anything socialism and communism has ever produced or manufactured.

All you people have done is try to convince everyone that we already are a socialist country.

Weak sauce, man.
 
But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.
It's a copy of a German rifle, but yeah, I do agree they had the mass manufacturing process down.

In fact, communism was all about industrialization. Not so much on human rights or environmental protection.

But they did build a lot.

The AK is in no way as complex or well-manufactured as the German StG-44. It was designed to a simple peasant could pick one up and operate it with very little training. The only similarity is that they both used a shortened cartridge, which allowed troops to carry more ammunition, and a large-capacity removable magazine.

But as far as the internal and external design, there are virtually no similarities.

There are a few superficial similarities.
Besides the short cartridge, they both have a fairly straight stock lined up with the barrel, and they both used stamped sheet metal receiver construction. I know the AK uses a simple rotating bolt turned buy a gas powered wedge, but I don't know what the locking mechanism in on the StG 44?

I own an AK but having never disassembled an StG44, I'm not sure. But I do see a similarity in the design of the gas piston and bolt, so I guess the commies did steal part of the design. Which proves the point that socialism and communism has never produced or manufactured anything they didn't steal from someone else.

stg44-sturmgewehr.jpg


ak47-disassembly-3787.jpg

Thanks for the diagrams.
Very interesting.
But remember that the German weapons were also being funded under military contract, so were also built by socialism.
It is not like there were lots of people wanting to buy an StG-44 privately.

Agreed. Nazi Germany was a form of socialism.
 
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
So you know & chose to lie.

It's no lie that this will never be a socialist country, no matter how badly you want it to be. Given another term of Trump, the liberal progressive/socialist/communist/ movement will pretty much be extinct.

Good riddance. I can't wait for them to all die off.
Nobody wants socialism. What part of that are you too stupid to get?
 
No one is pushing socialism you stupid shit.

Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
So you know & chose to lie.

It's no lie that this will never be a socialist country, no matter how badly you want it to be. Given another term of Trump, the liberal progressive/socialist/communist/ movement will pretty much be extinct.

Good riddance. I can't wait for them to all die off.

The Progressives go back to Teddy Roosevelt who created the trust busting socialism that ended child labor and force companies to pay overtime and holidays.
The choice really was and is between socialism or slavery.
 
Hey, well guess what, you ignorant inbred hillbilly twat: Half the dumbfuck democrats in the House are pushing socialism. Even the majority of you moron leftists who replied to this thread are pushing it.

Do you live under a rock or something, peckerwood?
No they are not. You obviously don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is the new Trumpism to dupe assfucks like you into a frenzy.

I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.
So you know & chose to lie.

It's no lie that this will never be a socialist country, no matter how badly you want it to be. Given another term of Trump, the liberal progressive/socialist/communist/ movement will pretty much be extinct.

Good riddance. I can't wait for them to all die off.
Nobody wants socialism. What part of that are you too stupid to get?

Dude, are you so out of touch with your own Democrat Party, that you don't know what they're trying to foist on the American people?

Do try to keep up, mmmm...ok?
 
I know exactly what socialism is. It's something this country will never ever be. No way, no how.

It already is dumass. It's all around you in so many ways...and very few would actually want to change that if they actually looked at it

Typical leftist answer: Not a single one of you has mentioned anything socialism and communism has ever produced or manufactured.

All you people have done is try to convince everyone that we already are a socialist country.

Weak sauce, man.
Like I said, you obviously don't know what socialism is.


China makes stuff.
 

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