Comrade Trump Jr. compares Syrian Refugees to Skittles

[Correll]

Since Trump is going to throw out the Mexicans and the Middle Easterners, he might as well seal the Canadian border as well, so that we can keep Justin Bieber out. I have also been very suspicious of the Hawaiians, as well, since the guy who shot John Lennon came from there. Also, something has to be done about the Dutch, coming over here and spreading Dutch Elm disease...

Are there Eleven Million Canadians living here illegally?

Are there large terrorist networks in Canada that wish to conduct a Holy War against US?


Are you completely full of shit?

Dunno if they've formed terrorist networks in Canada yet, but Canada has admitted over 30,000 Syrian refugees since November of 2015.

#WelcomeRefugees: Key figures

With all the diaper filling that you right wingers do, this amount of foreigners coming onto this continent, into a country that has a VERY porous border with the US, should send you into absolute bomb shelter mode.

Canada is braver than the U.S. They don't have Republicans

I hope that works out for them, better than it has for US.


http://images.memes.com/meme/631836



The 2013 Via Rail Canada terrorism plot was a conspiracy to commit terrorist acts in and against Canada in the form of disruption, destruction or derailment of trains operated by Canada's national passenger railway service, Via Rail Canada. The alleged targeted train route runs between Toronto and New York City.[1][2] The two suspects, Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser, were arrested on April 22, 2013 by the RCMP and subsequently charged by the Crown in connection with the plot.[3][4] Neither one is a Canadian citizen.






Bravery that exposes your women and children to needless danger is not bravery, it is foolishness.

 

[Correll]

1. The harmless majority is irrelevant to the fact that terrorism is becoming part of the new normal.

2. Direct violence is not the only negative that comes from importing an alien, hostile Third World population into a First World Nation.

3. Comparing absolute numbers from vastly different sized groups is irrelevant.

4. Nothing in your post explains why we should actively work to get more Americans horribly killed.

In short, you have nothing to back up your totally bogus claim.

"Fact and numbers are meaningless!"

I made 4 valid points, and you were able to challenge none of them.

You made NO valid points. You just decided statistics and facts were inconveniences in the way of your irrational fears.

The real fact is that immigrants are, by far, a net benefit to America. It is one of the things which makes us exceptional AND great.

So you are unable to answer my logic question...logically.

I'm willing to defend my above points, if you challenge them. Which you have not done so.


Your faith in immigrants being a net benefit is a matter of opinion.

IMO, Third World Immigrants in the modern era are NOT a net benefit.

So when did your ancestors come to the US?

Long ago when the world was a different place.

 

[Correll]

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

My God.

The bowl is full. THREE of them will kill you/are terrorists.

HOW CAN YOU THINK HE IS CLAIMING THEY ALL WILL KILL YOU/ARE TERRORISTS?


Are you insane?


I don't see how I can explain this any simpler without you being here so I can actually help you count a bowl of skittles.

Trump is daring you to eat from the bowl of skittles because you don't know which ones are terrorists

THAT is his analogy. He is saying do not accept anyone from the bowl because they might be terrorists

The only solution to Junior's perceived problems is not to eat from the bowl. Typical racist position.

That is not racist, you moron.

 

[Correll]

Who said that?

Trumps Skittle analogy

Ban all Syrians in the bowl because some may be terrorists

Some does not equal all.


Are you insane?

He is talking about banning ALL

Are you daft?

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

 

[rightwinger]

Trumps Skittle analogy

Ban all Syrians in the bowl because some may be terrorists

Some does not equal all.


Are you insane?

He is talking about banning ALL

Are you daft?

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

 

[Correll]

Some does not equal all.


Are you insane?

He is talking about banning ALL

Are you daft?

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

 

[rightwinger]

He is talking about banning ALL

Are you daft?

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

 

[Correll]

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

So, you admit problems, but deny that it is valid to discuss or God Forbid, address them.


If there are real problems, as you admit.


Then it is valid to discuss them.


And your dismissing and smearing those who do so, is you being in the wrong.


VERY, MUCH in the wrong.

 

[Correll]

You are the one who is confused here.


3 skittles are deadly. So don't eat ANY of them.

NOt all of them are deadly. But you don't chance it.


THe goal is to avoid being dead. NOt to be fair to the skittles, at the risk of being dead.

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

Your words. "they perfected terrorist bombings".

Yet you post a image dismissing the idea that they Irish "created violent cities" as "nativist".

 

[rightwinger]

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

So, you admit problems, but deny that it is valid to discuss or God Forbid, address them.


If there are real problems, as you admit.


Then it is valid to discuss them.


And your dismissing and smearing those who do so, is you being in the wrong.


VERY, MUCH in the wrong.

You are a coward

Afraid of those who are not like you. Believing every fear mongering rant about those who are different.
Walls and bans on immigration make you feel safe

You are a Know-Nothing

 

[rightwinger]

Life is a bowl of skittles. There are always deadly skittles out there

When you drive your car
When you eat food
When you walk outside after dark

Avoiding any situation where there may be bad skittles is no way to lead your life

EVERY immigrant group had bad skittles in it

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

Your words. "they perfected terrorist bombings".

Yet you post a image dismissing the idea that they Irish "created violent cities" as "nativist".

Different eras but the same fear mongering against immigrants




.

 

[Correll]

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

So, you admit problems, but deny that it is valid to discuss or God Forbid, address them.


If there are real problems, as you admit.


Then it is valid to discuss them.


And your dismissing and smearing those who do so, is you being in the wrong.


VERY, MUCH in the wrong.

You are a coward

Afraid of those who are not like you. Believing every fear mongering rant about those who are different.
Walls and bans on immigration make you feel safe

You are a Know-Nothing

I am afraid of random death.


Fear of random death is not cowardice, it is sanity.


Your lack of fear is not bravery, it is callousness.


YOu did not address my point.




You admit valid issues, such a "terrorist bombings", but continue to insist that it is not valid to discuss them or try to address them.


Your position makes no sense.




The idea of keeping random death away from me and mine, does make me feel safe, safER at least.


Would you care to explain why that is wrong?

 

[Correll]

Exposing your fellow citizens, including your women and children to needless danger is the act of a fool.


EVERY immigration group is not the same. Every time period is not the same.


You, a liberal, who is supposedly so flexible and adaptable and not afraid of change, is arguing that we should keep the same immigration policy we had in the late 1700s, today.

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

Your words. "they perfected terrorist bombings".

Yet you post a image dismissing the idea that they Irish "created violent cities" as "nativist".

Different eras but the same fear mongering against immigrants

Calling something "fear mongering" implies there is not real or rational fear.


"Terrorist Bombings" is a rational fear.


Your dismissal of random death as a valid issue for discussion needs to be explained.


Constant repetition is not an explanation.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

I am a man. I walk upright. I fear neither guns nor dogs nor swimming pools nor refugees. I recognize flawed arguments from a mile away.

Too bad Trump's Chumps cannot say the same.

Fear is the rational response to random death.

Those moments of fear are when you find out if all those platitudes about belief are something you really hold as important, or if you were just talking crap.

There's a lot of good people dying in Syria that wouldn't be dying if we take them in. This is the moment that the world will look and see what we're made of. Are we cowards that run away as fast as we can, or are we the brave and good people that head into trouble to help?

I've lived my whole life believing that we as a country are the people that run in and help, danger be damned. We saw that on 9/11 when firefighters ran into the Towers to help people out. We saw that as people stopped and helped others down the stairs when they could have just as easily ran past. We saw that when the passengers of United 93 took down their plane rather than give in to the terrorists. I've seen that in countless mass shootings as officers rush in to save lives.

This is no different, and it is a test just as important. It is a test the world failed back in the 40's when millions of Jews found themselves trapped in Nazi Germany because the whole world turned their back on them. It is a test. And if we fail this test, then we show the world our principles aren't worth crap.

So yeah, this Skittle analogy pisses me off. And yeah, I get pissed off when I see the cowards in this thread who have decided it is better to let people die than to help. So I will say this as clearly as I can:

If you are refusing to take in the lost and desperate because you are scared, you are not an American. You are not a Christian. You do not represent the values Americans hold. You do not represent the values of the "Shining City on the Hill." You do not represent the values of an America that is Great or Exceptional. You are cowards and weak. You represent a view of America that is no better, no more exceptional, and no more special than any other nation on Earth. You are not Making America Great Again! You are making us weak, cowardly, and at best average.

Stripped of your drama, your post comes down to calling me a coward because I put my personal safety ahead of the lives of Syrians.


Except.

That I recognize that the odds of me personally being harmed is very small.

My motivation is the certainty that OTHER AMERICANS will be killed.


So, fuck off.

I'm calling into question the entire notion of greatness folks like you want to claim because at the end of the day, brightly colored jpeg aside, you are acting out of fear.

And that is fine. You don't want to take a risk, fine. But don't expect to ever be called great, or exceptional. Because you are not.

And that is what I reject. We are better, stronger, and braver than this. Yes indeed people will get hurt. That is going to happen. We knew folks would die when we went to fight the British in the Revolution, the British in 1812, the Spanish in the Spanish American War, the South in the Civil War, the Germans in WWI and the Germans again in WWII. We intervened despite the risks in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We took in refugee populations from all over the world and still do despite the dangers they may represent. We take in those oppressed by violence, politics, and crime and we do it because we are great, exceptional, and compassionate. And we always have been.

So yes, I am calling you, I am calling all of you who support Trump Jr.'s analogy cowards because you are and I am more than willing to call you unamerican because you are. I see the closing of the borders to those in need as a cowardly act. There is nothing brave, or exceptional, or even smart about it. Actions like these mean we are absolutely no better than the rest of the nations.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

Thank you for demonstrating you don't even understand the analogy.

The ENTIRE BOWL of skittles are the refugees...the 3 - 4 poisonous ones are the ones amongst the rest that are the terrorists.

See, if you would have just admitted hours ago that you didn't understand it we could have avoided all this.

If you want to really push the analogy, then mathematically the Washington post works out that for 3-4 to be poisonous, we are talking about swimming pools (multiple) filled with skittles, from which you'd have to take literally handfulls every hour for the rest of your life to even get poisoned. So the analogy lies when it comes to scale.

Of course, you can admit it's a crappy analogy and we can go on and have an intelligent conversation.

 

[rightwinger]

EVERY immigrant group has been feared and defiled by those who mistrust people who are "not like us"
The Irish were our original terrorists. They perfected terrorist bombing
The Italians brought the Mafia to our cities and terrorized their neighborhoods
As every Trump supporter knows, Mexico sends its murderers and rapists

Closing our borders to immigration and building walls is not the answer...it is the response of cowards and racists

Incredible.

You discuss serious issues, like terrorist bombings and organized crime, while denying the possibility of any legitimate issue with immigration.



Exposing our women and children to certain random death is not bravery. lt is the act of a fool.

We have always had a "problem" with immigration. Each new group of immigrants has had it own criminal element.

The fact that Republicans are now using the same fear tactics against Muslims and Mexicans is not surprising......They are the same Know-Nothings

Your words. "they perfected terrorist bombings".

Yet you post a image dismissing the idea that they Irish "created violent cities" as "nativist".

Different eras but the same fear mongering against immigrants

Calling something "fear mongering" implies there is not real or rational fear.


"Terrorist Bombings" is a rational fear.


Your dismissal of random death as a valid issue for discussion needs to be explained.


Constant repetition is not an explanation.

It is not rational

We had less than 100 people killed by terrorists last year and you want to ban all Muslims
We had almost 9,000 killed by gun violence and you refuse to do anything

 

[rightwinger]

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

Thank you for demonstrating you don't even understand the analogy.

The ENTIRE BOWL of skittles are the refugees...the 3 - 4 poisonous ones are the ones amongst the rest that are the terrorists.

See, if you would have just admitted hours ago that you didn't understand it we could have avoided all this.

If you want to really push the analogy, then mathematically the Washington post works out that for 3-4 to be poisonous, we are talking about swimming pools (multiple) filled with skittles, from which you'd have to take literally handfulls every hour for the rest of your life to even get poisoned. So the analogy lies when it comes to scale.

Of course, you can admit it's a crappy analogy and we can go on and have an intelligent conversation.

The fact is that American Muslims are highly educated and have relatively low crime rates. Ask the Khans....they will explain what the Muslim community is really like

 

[rightwinger]

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

Thank you for demonstrating you don't even understand the analogy.

The ENTIRE BOWL of skittles are the refugees...the 3 - 4 poisonous ones are the ones amongst the rest that are the terrorists.

See, if you would have just admitted hours ago that you didn't understand it we could have avoided all this.

If you want to really push the analogy, then mathematically the Washington post works out that for 3-4 to be poisonous, we are talking about swimming pools (multiple) filled with skittles, from which you'd have to take literally handfulls every hour for the rest of your life to even get poisoned. So the analogy lies when it comes to scale.

Of course, you can admit it's a crappy analogy and we can go on and have an intelligent conversation.

Lets see....
2 million Muslim Skittles of which 4 were involved in terrorist attacks last year

Swimming pool seems about right

 

[Dr.Traveler]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

My God.

The bowl is full. THREE of them will kill you/are terrorists.

HOW CAN YOU THINK HE IS CLAIMING THEY ALL WILL KILL YOU/ARE TERRORISTS?


Are you insane?


I don't see how I can explain this any simpler without you being here so I can actually help you count a bowl of skittles.

Here we go:

Donald Trump Jr. inadvertently encourages America to scoop up refugees by the handful

If you do the math on the analogy you can read here:
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So let's figure out what the analogy is. The libertarian (and Koch brothers-backed) think tank Cato Institute published a report last week assessing the risk posed by refugees. That report stated that, each year, the risk to an American of being killed by a refugee in a terror attack is 1 in 3.64 billion, as Huffington Post's Elise Foley noted on Twitter. From the report:

From 1975 through 2015, the annual chance that an American would be murdered in a terrorist attack carried out by a foreign-born terrorist was 1 in 3,609,709. Foreigners on the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks, whereas those on other tourist visas killed 1 in 3.9 million a year. The chance that an American would be killed in a terrorist attack committed by a refugee was 1 in 3.64 billion a year.

In other words, for every 10.92 billion years that Americans live — one Skittle, if you will — refugees will kill an American in a terror attack in three.

An actual Skittle is about 1 centimeter squared by about a half a centimeter tall (or thereabouts). Setting aside questions of stacking the oblong Skittles in this very large bowl by assuming each will occupy two-thirds of that volume, we're talking about one-and-a-half Olympic swimming pools of Skittles. Wrigley produces 200 million Skittles a day, so this is the entire production line for more than 54 days, transported to an oversized swimming pool and dumped in to the top. And in that pool: Three poison Skittles.
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They go on to predict the odds you will get poisoned:

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Well, it could be one, of course, if the poisoned ones are distributed evenly through the giant pool-and-a-half of Skittles. But the odds say something different. If there is one poisoned Skittle in 3.64 billion, that means I could extract quite a few handfuls before I was likely to pick out a poisoned one.

Specifically, about 68.7 million handfuls. Let's say it takes me one minute to grab a handful and eat them. I would hit a poisoned Skittle, on average, every 130 years. I would also be consuming the equivalent of a package of Skittles every minute, which is about 330,000 calories a day.
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Specifically showing that odds of being killed in a terrorist attack by a Syrian refugee are laughably small, especially when weighed against the number of people we are rejecting who could become productive members of their new home.

 

[Correll]

I am a man. I walk upright. I fear neither guns nor dogs nor swimming pools nor refugees. I recognize flawed arguments from a mile away.

Too bad Trump's Chumps cannot say the same.

Fear is the rational response to random death.

Those moments of fear are when you find out if all those platitudes about belief are something you really hold as important, or if you were just talking crap.

There's a lot of good people dying in Syria that wouldn't be dying if we take them in. This is the moment that the world will look and see what we're made of. Are we cowards that run away as fast as we can, or are we the brave and good people that head into trouble to help?

I've lived my whole life believing that we as a country are the people that run in and help, danger be damned. We saw that on 9/11 when firefighters ran into the Towers to help people out. We saw that as people stopped and helped others down the stairs when they could have just as easily ran past. We saw that when the passengers of United 93 took down their plane rather than give in to the terrorists. I've seen that in countless mass shootings as officers rush in to save lives.

This is no different, and it is a test just as important. It is a test the world failed back in the 40's when millions of Jews found themselves trapped in Nazi Germany because the whole world turned their back on them. It is a test. And if we fail this test, then we show the world our principles aren't worth crap.

So yeah, this Skittle analogy pisses me off. And yeah, I get pissed off when I see the cowards in this thread who have decided it is better to let people die than to help. So I will say this as clearly as I can:

If you are refusing to take in the lost and desperate because you are scared, you are not an American. You are not a Christian. You do not represent the values Americans hold. You do not represent the values of the "Shining City on the Hill." You do not represent the values of an America that is Great or Exceptional. You are cowards and weak. You represent a view of America that is no better, no more exceptional, and no more special than any other nation on Earth. You are not Making America Great Again! You are making us weak, cowardly, and at best average.

Stripped of your drama, your post comes down to calling me a coward because I put my personal safety ahead of the lives of Syrians.


Except.

That I recognize that the odds of me personally being harmed is very small.

My motivation is the certainty that OTHER AMERICANS will be killed.


So, fuck off.

I'm calling into question the entire notion of greatness folks like you want to claim because at the end of the day, brightly colored jpeg aside, you are acting out of fear.

And that is fine. You don't want to take a risk, fine. But don't expect to ever be called great, or exceptional. Because you are not.

And that is what I reject. We are better, stronger, and braver than this. Yes indeed people will get hurt. That is going to happen. We knew folks would die when we went to fight the British in the Revolution, the British in 1812, the Spanish in the Spanish American War, the South in the Civil War, the Germans in WWI and the Germans again in WWII. We intervened despite the risks in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We took in refugee populations from all over the world and still do despite the dangers they may represent. We take in those oppressed by violence, politics, and crime and we do it because we are great, exceptional, and compassionate. And we always have been.

So yes, I am calling you, I am calling all of you who support Trump Jr.'s analogy cowards because you are and I am more than willing to call you unamerican because you are. I see the closing of the borders to those in need as a cowardly act. There is nothing brave, or exceptional, or even smart about it. Actions like these mean we are absolutely no better than the rest of the nations.

Having a fear of random death does not mean that you are unable to be great or American.


America's greatness is not based on our willingness to expose our women and children to needless danger.




You are spouting platitudes, to justify a policy position, instead of seriously and honestly discussing it.