flacaltenn
Diamond Member
I'd like present some slightly more robust evidence of global glacial decline.
The best material I have yet found is in the: Global glacier changes section of this site. It is a then a 4 page pdf file.
Global Glacier Changes: facts and figures
The material tracks glaciers back to 1845, and covers the entire globe.
On the top right hand side of page 1 is a large red and blue graphic showing glacial advance/retreat 1825 - 2010.
Frank -
I challenge you directly to look at this material and commenting on it. Let's try actually discussing some real science and staying on topic. You want to debate for once - let's see it.
Your source is quite comprehensive. And it appears to be quite useful.. But NOT for your purpose of showing "Global Glacier retreat due to Global warming"..
Too many instances of glaciers in the same region having different reactions to the local climate. Also -- many instances that show relative stabilization or REDUCED melt trends after significant "pre-CO2" retreats.. Pretty much what IanC was showing by example.
This is NOT a good proxy for you alarmists.. Because we already KNOW what the temperature has done globally. It's about 1degC higher in your lifetime. If you want to panic about just how much glacier tail that eats up ---- you'll have to leave me out of the discussion.. I don't fight about ice melts.. Same reason why a doctor doesn't waste time counting pimples before they treat for measles..