2aguy
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I know that crime dropped drastically after we got background checks. Then as concealed carry ramped up violent crime jumps up. Those are the facts, not your constant lies.Your lies are so tiring.It's a small fraction of ours. Our rate jumped up as concealed carry increased....People are dying in Britain, their murder rate is going up...ours is going down, in particular our gun murder rate...down 49% as more Americans own and carry guns...the gun crime rate in Britain, doofus.....is going up, not down, and they banned and confiscated guns...and their violent crime rates are sky rocketing...
wrong, it went down.....yet you keep lying....
Violent crime in Britain is going up, murder is going up...and they banned and confiscated guns...our gun murder rate dropped 49%, our gun crime rate dropped 75%, our violent crime rate dropped 72%....as more Americans owned and actually carried guns....
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year
You liar.....you know that covered 2015, and 2016, the years of the Ferguson Effect when obama and the democrats attacked the police with their black lives matter supporters.....causing the police to stop their pro active police techniques....and now that obama is gone, the gun murder rates are going down....now that the police know they have support...
Hard Data, Hollow Protests
The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.
Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.
Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.
Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
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Chicago Murders: Crime Wave Is Not Nationwide, However | National Review
Whatever the case with Chicago, the national trends are encouraging. Look, for instance, at the ten biggest U.S. cities.
We now have homicide figures for the first half of 2018 (via the FBI, police departments, and local media coverage) and can compare these with data from the same time period in the last eight years. We had crime spikes in 2012, 2016, and 2017.
But 2018, at least so far, looks good. The ten-city total is down by 6 percent relative to last year. Not standing-ovation territory, but certainly the right direction.
Another indicator is the trend in the cities red-flagged by criminologist Richard Rosenfeld when crime first rose between 2014 and 2015. Rosenfeld found that these ten cities alone accounted for nearly two-thirds of the increase in homicides nationwide.
As you can see, in 2018 crime dropped in eight of ten of these red-flag cities, and cumulatively the decline was 14 percent.
What about the Big Apple? Regardless of scary reports that citywide shootings were up 16 percent in July, and that Bronx murders had risen by almost one-third, the long-term picture still looks good. There’s been an increase since last year — but last year was an unusually safe one.
When crime first shot up in 2015 and 2016, I pointed out that there’s a big difference between a crime spike, which may last a few years, and a crime boom, such as the one this country suffered from the late 1960s to the early 1990s. I’m sticking to my story.
You can't show how background checks stop criminals from getting guns....since they use straw buyers and steal them....
As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rate went down 75%...our gun murder rate went down 49%, something you say can't happen, but it did.....you are wrong...