Connecticut shows why they want gun registraton so bad.

[AZrailwhale]

Trump ended rule to block mentally ill from getting guns​

The action was one of his earliest as president.
ByALISA WIERSEMA
February 15, 2018, 1:41 PM

President Donald Trump has often pointed to mental illness as the underlying cause for mass shootings, but one of his earliest actions as president was to undo a regulation that would have made it more difficult for people with a known mental illness to buy guns.

Nearly a year ago, on Feb. 28, 2017, President Trump signed H.J. Res. 40, effectively ending the Social Security Administration's requirement to enter the names of people who receive mental health benefits into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. This is the database used by the FBI to determine who is able to purchase firearms.

President Trump has addressed the nation about mass shootings four times throughout his time in office. On Thursday, President Trump tweeted that the shooter involved in Florida’s Parkland High School tragedy showed signs of being “mentally disturbed,” and urged for greater awareness for similar cases...
Trump ended rule to block mentally ill from getting guns

Because anyone getting those benefits had their rights taken away. The law was too broad. A person getting meds for anxiety or depression who was no threat to anyone except themselves was put on that list.

 

[playtime]

Because anyone getting those benefits had their rights taken away. The law was too broad. A person getting meds for anxiety or depression who was no threat to anyone except themselves was put on that list.

not true. i have a family member who's been on prozac forever & has a legally owned handgun right beside her bed.

 

[marvin martian]

LOL those were not mental illness it does stuff like if you cant handle your finances according to SS and VA you cant own firearms.

Exactly. Or if you talked to a counselor after the death of a loved one, or even a pet. Fucking Nazis tried to use that as a way to disarm law-abiding citizens.

 

[miketx]

<psssst>

them thar guns are already grandfathered & registered. they have been for years.

the firearms we have in our home have also been registered fr years with no feds knocking on our door to take them away.

Come get them.

 

[playtime]

LOL those were not mental illness it does stuff like if you cant handle your finances according to SS and VA you cant own firearms.

if you can't handle your 'own affairs' goes way beyond finances.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If there is a verifiable complaint from a parent, spouse, teacher, employer or someone with immediate knowledge, your guns are removed while the complaint is investigated

Those are local laws and are often abused by vindictive ex-spouses. There is generally NO VERIFICATION, just a complaint. Then the owner has to spend thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars to get their property returned and in at least some cases I have heard of has been told at the end, "sorry, your guns were destroyed or lost." If someone is enough of a threat to public safety to have their property seized by governmental fiat, they should be arrested and confined in a mental institution while they are "investigated".

 

[playtime]

Come get them.

^^^

 

[rightwinger]

Those are local laws and are often abused by vindictive ex-spouses. There is generally NO VERIFICATION, just a complaint. Then the owner has to spend thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars to get their property returned and in at least some cases I have heard of has been told at the end, "sorry, your guns were destroyed or lost." If someone is enough of a threat to public safety to have their property seized by governmental fiat, they should be arrested and confined in a mental institution while they are "investigated".

If that’s the case, you will temporarily lose your guns while the complaint is investigated.

Better safe than sorry

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL those were not mental illness it does stuff like if you cant handle your finances according to SS and VA you cant own firearms.

Fake news ehh it happened to me because Biden renewed it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

not true. i have a family member who's been on prozac forever & has a legally owned handgun right beside her bed.

Was she getting her meds from Social Security or the VA? People with private insurance weren't affected.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If that’s the case, you will temporarily lose your guns while the complaint is investigated.

Better safe than sorry

Confine the person who is claimed to be a danger, "better safe than sorry". If they are that dangerous, they can find another weapon to use ranging from a club to a sword, propane bomb, chain saw, or illegal gun.

 

[playtime]

Was she getting her meds from Social Security or the VA? People with private insurance weren't affected.

those that were - were only 75K outa how many drawing that kinda check & healthcare? are you saying that those 75K were the total of peopledoing so?

 

[rightwinger]

Confine the person who is claimed to be a danger, "better safe than sorry". If they are that dangerous, they can find another weapon to use ranging from a club to a sword, propane bomb, chain saw, or illegal gun.

Well, when some known nut job slaughters 20 six year olds with a Chain Saw we can look into it.
For now, we got to keep an AR-15 with 30 round magazine out of his hands

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, when some known nut job slaughters 20 six year olds with a Chain Saw we can look into it.
For now, we got to keep an AR-15 with 30 round magazine out of his hands

How about simply locking up the known nut job so he can’t hurt himself or other people? That is the simple and effective solution, but you’ll never admit it.

 

[rightwinger]

How about simply locking up the known nut job so he can’t hurt himself or other people? That is the simple and effective solution, but you’ll never admit it.

You don’t lock up hundreds of thousands of people because they may be a threat

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You don’t lock up hundreds of thousands of people because they may be a threat

But according to you, you deny them a constitutional right

 

[rightwinger]

But according to you, you deny them a constitutional right

Yup…..temporary inconvenience if they are not really a threat

If they ARE a threat to themselves and others, you are saving lives.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You don’t lock up hundreds of thousands of people because they may be a threat

You don't confiscate weapons from the same number of people "because they may be a threat". You lock up mentally ill people because they are a danger to themselves and others.

 

[miketx]

Sandy Hook

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When Congress showed they were unwilling to do anything about gun violence, Connecticut realized they must act on their own

Come get them, traitor liar.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yup…..temporary inconvenience if they are not really a threat

If they ARE a threat to themselves and others, you are saving lives.

If they are dangerous enough to have their weapons "temporarily" confiscated until they are proven harmless, they are dangerous enough to "temporarily" incarcerate in a mental institution until they are proven harmless.