Constitutional Convention?

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The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

I think they would have already tried it.
 
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

I think they would have already tried it.
we're so equally divided, there may not be new amendments for a long time.
though i would enjoy seeing maxine waters leading the charge. she's the new alan greyson, batshit crazy and ready to lead the democrats.
 
First of all, it's NOT a "constitutional convention." There is no such provision in the Constitution. This Article delineates the protocol for AMENDING the Constitution.

Now.... you MUST get that point through your head before we can go any further. There is no way possible to constitutionally have a constitutional convention... and the provision you are mentioning is the procedure by which our Constitution may be Amended.

So there are these two ways we can have the Constitution amended, through the legislature or through the states. It is also untrue that it hasn't been tried through the states. It has been tried, just not successfully. Generally, what has happened is, whenever the number of states get to "critical mass" and it is inevitable they will succeed, Congress acts. Whatever amendment was being proposed is simply adopted and passed by Congress instead. The last time it happened was in 1972 with the Equal Rights Amendment.

Once a proposed amendment is passed, either by congress or states, it still has to be ratified. Of course, in 1972, the ERA failed to be ratified. Still, it began as a "convention of states" initiative which was eventually adopted by congress.
 
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

I think they would have already tried it.
we're so equally divided, there may not be new amendments for a long time.
though i would enjoy seeing maxine waters leading the charge. she's the new alan greyson, batshit crazy and ready to lead the democrats.

The beauty of the Article V movement is, if state power returns to where it was, liberal states and conservative states can better govern their own affairs, instead of half the nation clamoring about seceding from the Union every Presidential election cycle.
 
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

I think they would have already tried it.
we're so equally divided, there may not be new amendments for a long time.
though i would enjoy seeing maxine waters leading the charge. she's the new alan greyson, batshit crazy and ready to lead the democrats.

The beauty of the Article V movement is, if state power returns to where it was, liberal states and conservative states can better govern their own affairs, instead of half the nation clamoring about seceding from the Union every Presidential election cycle.
yippeee for the tenth amendment ! the states should govern themselves as much as possible. education, abortion, gun control... and so forth.
 
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

I think they would have already tried it.
There's no point to your post.
 

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