Cory Booker: “If I Had The Power” To Ban Guns “I Would”

[Soupnazi630]

You could not tell it was an adult or child by looking

Brown did not have his hands up and was not standing still

A bunch of witnesses said he was. Oddly, they didn't get called. The crazy racist woman who was medicated was called, though.

The physical evidence proves he was not

 

[JoeB131]

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to stop violent criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder...

Still fantasy numbers. The VCP says 110,000 with only 268 Self-defense homicides.

and the gun murder number in 2017 was 10,982 as per the FBI you dipshit.

The CDC says 14,000.


Of course, either number is too high for a civilized country... Japan in was a whopping 3 in 2017.

 

[Pilot1]

Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, etc need Media attention. They will do and say anything to get it, and also get the Democrat base who hate legally owned firearms.

 

[JoeB131]

The physical evidence proves he was not

How does it do that? The thing they cite is that. "Well, the bullet holes in his shirt match up to the torso, and the wouldn't if hs hands were up".

But that only works if you put your hand up over your head. If you put your hands up with your upper arms parralel to the shoulder or at a downward angle with just your forearms up, you shirt stays where it is.

And this is the problem when you have a DA acting like a defense attorney.

Chicago didn't increase enforcement of anything. How would they do that?

Actually, we put a lot more cops on the street, we did a lot more proactive policing. We also got rid of a lot of the units, like the one Van Dyke was in, that just pissed off the community.

You didn't hear about it because your precious MSM didn't tell you about it. Same as they don't tell you about the thousands of other cases just like that.

If people killed themselves jumping off of bridges, would you be happier about it then? And the last recordable homicide total was a little over 14,000. Mind you homicide is not the same as murder.

Still really bad... but the gun homicide rate alone is 14,000.

Keep in mind, the TOTAL homicide rate in the UK is 600 with only 50 of those being with guns.

In Japan it's 600 with the total from guns being 4.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh please. Tell me that picture is a kid that weighs almost 200 lbs. The family had all pictures of him removed from public and erased his social media. It's the exact same thing they did with Travon Martin. It's probably one of the first things the family's lawyers did when they got the case.

It isn't. It's a picture of a kid. That's the point. He fucking shot a kid. I've look at the tape, there's no way that kid is 5'8"" weighing 180 lbs. He also doesn't have the gun in his hand and he isn't reaching for anything. Officer Weepy just hoped out of his car and shot him.

Again- The same officer who was Fired from another police department for being mentally unstable.

 

[JoeB131]

Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, etc need Media attention. They will do and say anything to get it, and also get the Democrat base who hate legally owned firearms.

Naw, man, what we hate is

32,000 gun deaths.
70,000 gun injuries
400,000 gun crimes.
$270,000,000,000 in economic losses every year.
Living in a world of metal detectors, security cameras, key-card doors, guards, because a small number of you have a crazy fetish and a bizarre interpretation of the militia amendment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh please. Tell me that picture is a kid that weighs almost 200 lbs. The family had all pictures of him removed from public and erased his social media. It's the exact same thing they did with Travon Martin. It's probably one of the first things the family's lawyers did when they got the case.

It isn't. It's a picture of a kid. That's the point. He fucking shot a kid. I've look at the tape, there's no way that kid is 5'8"" weighing 180 lbs. He also doesn't have the gun in his hand and he isn't reaching for anything. Officer Weepy just hoped out of his car and shot him.

Again- The same officer who was Fired from another police department for being mentally unstable.

Thanks for displaying your extremely poor judgment. His physical characteristics are not mine or Fox News. That was the official autopsy report, also reported by the very left Cleveland Plain Dealer.

So now that we’ve established you only see what your mind wants you to see, we can also establish that Tamir was also pulling the gun from his pants. After all, the video was used for hours in a frame by frame examination which the grand jury determined what took place matched the police reports of the officers and forensic science conclusion.


Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

 

[Pilot1]

Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, etc need Media attention. They will do and say anything to get it, and also get the Democrat base who hate legally owned firearms.

Naw, man, what we hate is

32,000 gun deaths.
70,000 gun injuries
400,000 gun crimes.
$270,000,000,000 in economic losses every year.
Living in a world of metal detectors, security cameras, key-card doors, guards, because a small number of you have a crazy fetish and a bizarre interpretation of the militia amendment.

23,000 of those "gun deaths" are SUICIDES. The rest are mostly inner city Black on Black violence by CRIMINALS using guns. The few left are statistically insignificant in a country of 330 MILLION.

The 2A says the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to Keep and Bear Arms, not the right of the militia nor the government. Can you read? Nobody is forcing you to own guns. Leave mine alone. They've never hurt anyone.

 

[rightwinger]

Booker was mayor of Newark

He has seen firsthand what guns did to his community

 

[2aguy]

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to stop violent criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder...

Still fantasy numbers. The VCP says 110,000 with only 268 Self-defense homicides.

and the gun murder number in 2017 was 10,982 as per the FBI you dipshit.

The CDC says 14,000.


Of course, either number is too high for a civilized country... Japan in was a whopping 3 in 2017.

The Centers for Disease Control....1.1 million defensive uses of guns a year.....Department of Justice.....1.5 million.....and those are only two.....out of 17....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

 

[2aguy]

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to

The 1.1 million Americans each year who use their legal guns to stop violent criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder...

Still fantasy numbers. The VCP says 110,000 with only 268 Self-defense homicides.

and the gun murder number in 2017 was 10,982 as per the FBI you dipshit.

The CDC says 14,000.


Of course, either number is too high for a civilized country... Japan in was a whopping 3 in 2017.

Japan is a police state that keeps minority populations out of their country...which prevents all sorts of crime issues due to cultural clashes....

 

[2aguy]

The physical evidence proves he was not

How does it do that? The thing they cite is that. "Well, the bullet holes in his shirt match up to the torso, and the wouldn't if hs hands were up".

But that only works if you put your hand up over your head. If you put your hands up with your upper arms parralel to the shoulder or at a downward angle with just your forearms up, you shirt stays where it is.

And this is the problem when you have a DA acting like a defense attorney.

Chicago didn't increase enforcement of anything. How would they do that?

Actually, we put a lot more cops on the street, we did a lot more proactive policing. We also got rid of a lot of the units, like the one Van Dyke was in, that just pissed off the community.

You didn't hear about it because your precious MSM didn't tell you about it. Same as they don't tell you about the thousands of other cases just like that.

If people killed themselves jumping off of bridges, would you be happier about it then? And the last recordable homicide total was a little over 14,000. Mind you homicide is not the same as murder.

Still really bad... but the gun homicide rate alone is 14,000.

Keep in mind, the TOTAL homicide rate in the UK is 600 with only 50 of those being with guns.

In Japan it's 600 with the total from guns being 4.

The U.K. and Europe went through actual destruction from World War 2...which set them back decades....they are now catching up....our social upheaval began in the 1960s as the democrat party Great Society plan destroyed our families....they are now at that point as the social welfare state in Britain has destroyed their families......hence the increase in violent crime, murder by knife, and the increasing flow of illegal guns that the British police state they can't stop....

 

[Papageorgio]

You notice how Booker phrased his answer? "if I had the power." Even if elected he never would have the power but it is an empty promise that makes his base feel all warm and fuzzy however it means absolutely nothing.

 

[2aguy]

Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, etc need Media attention. They will do and say anything to get it, and also get the Democrat base who hate legally owned firearms.

Naw, man, what we hate is

32,000 gun deaths.
70,000 gun injuries
400,000 gun crimes.
$270,000,000,000 in economic losses every year.
Living in a world of metal detectors, security cameras, key-card doors, guards, because a small number of you have a crazy fetish and a bizarre interpretation of the militia amendment.

You add in gun suicide which doesn't count, as Japan, China and Korea have extreme gun control and higher suicide rates than we do......

And you fail to mention the 1.1 million times lives are saved from ruin and destruction by normal Americans with guns......

Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct

Consider that in the 1992 NSDS 46% of those reporting DGUs believed someone “might have” – “probably would have” – or “almost certainly would have” been killed otherwise. Even of 1.1 million DGUs, nearly half may have saved a life (and we ought to assume, conservatively, that at least the 16% “almost certainly” did).
-----------------
If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.




==============
Annual Defensive Gun Use Savings Dwarf Study's "Gun Violence" Costs - The Truth About Guns

I was going to go on and calculate the costs of incarceration ($50K/year) saved by people killing 1527 criminals annually, and then look at the lifetime cost to society of an average criminal (something in excess of $1 million). But all of that would be a drop in the bucket compared to the $1,000,000,000,000 ($1T) annual benefit of gun ownership.
--------
It’s one of the antis’ favorite tricks: cost benefit analysis omitting the benefit side of the equation. So what are the financial benefits of firearm ownership to society? Read on

. . .---------------
In my post Dennis Henigan on Chardon: Clockwork Edition, I did an analysis of how many lives were saved annually in Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs). I used extremely conservative numbers. Now I am going to use some less conservative ones.
--------------
How can we get a dollar figure from 1.88 million defensive gun uses per year? Never fear, faithful reader, we can count on the .gov to calculate everything.


According to the AZ state government, in February of 2008 a human life was worth $6.5 million. Going to the Inflation Calculator and punching in the numbers gives us a present value of $6.93 million.
So figuring that the average DGU saves one half of a person’s life—as “gun violence” predominantly affects younger demographics—that gives us $3.465 million per half life.


Putting this all together, we find that the monetary benefit of guns (by way of DGUs) is roughly $1.02 trillion per year. That’s trillion. With a ‘T’.


I was going to go on and calculate the costs of incarceration ($50K/year) saved by people killing 1527 criminals annually, and then look at the lifetime cost to society of an average criminal (something in excess of $1 million). But all of that would be a drop in the bucket compared to the $1,000,000,000,000 ($1T) annual benefit of gun ownership.


When compared to the (inflation adjusted from 2002) $127.5 billion ‘cost’ of gun violence calculated by by our Ludwig-Cook buddies, guns save a little more than eight times what they “cost.”


Which, I might add, is completely irrelevant since “the freedom to own and carry the weapon of your choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and Constitutional right — subject neither to the democratic process nor to arguments grounded in social utility.”


So even taking Motherboard’s own total and multiplying it by 100, the benefits to society of civilian gun ownership dwarf the associated costs.

 

[2aguy]

Booker was mayor of Newark

He has seen firsthand what guns did to his community

Considering his policies helped allow the gangs to thrive and kill each other...

 

[Dan Stubbs]

There are 195 nations in the world.
194 do not have a 2nd Amendment.

Feel free to hop on a plane.

Cory Booker: ‘If I Had the Power’ to Ban Guns ‘I Would’

The Bros do not like the idea. Most Blacks live in combat zones and not to be armed is not good for how long you are going to live. I kid you not. Grew up in the area, and went to school in the area. I noticed that since the folk have started moving away from the Democrats they are becoming crazy as a crack user.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The physical evidence proves he was not

How does it do that? The thing they cite is that. "Well, the bullet holes in his shirt match up to the torso, and the wouldn't if hs hands were up".

But that only works if you put your hand up over your head. If you put your hands up with your upper arms parralel to the shoulder or at a downward angle with just your forearms up, you shirt stays where it is.

And this is the problem when you have a DA acting like a defense attorney.

Chicago didn't increase enforcement of anything. How would they do that?

Actually, we put a lot more cops on the street, we did a lot more proactive policing. We also got rid of a lot of the units, like the one Van Dyke was in, that just pissed off the community.

You didn't hear about it because your precious MSM didn't tell you about it. Same as they don't tell you about the thousands of other cases just like that.

If people killed themselves jumping off of bridges, would you be happier about it then? And the last recordable homicide total was a little over 14,000. Mind you homicide is not the same as murder.

Still really bad... but the gun homicide rate alone is 14,000.

Keep in mind, the TOTAL homicide rate in the UK is 600 with only 50 of those being with guns.

In Japan it's 600 with the total from guns being 4.

That is not what they cite.

They cote the credible witnesses, the injuries to Wilson consistent with his story, the bullet holes in Browns arms and head all of which are consistent with a man charging and not with a man surrendering

You are proven wrong

 

[Soupnazi630]

Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, etc need Media attention. They will do and say anything to get it, and also get the Democrat base who hate legally owned firearms.

Naw, man, what we hate is

32,000 gun deaths.
70,000 gun injuries
400,000 gun crimes.
$270,000,000,000 in economic losses every year.
Living in a world of metal detectors, security cameras, key-card doors, guards, because a small number of you have a crazy fetish and a bizarre interpretation of the militia amendment.

There is no militia amendment


It is a private citizens right to bear arms amendment which is designed to protect us from tyranny and serves its purpose.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Booker was mayor of Newark

He has seen firsthand what guns did to his community

Being mayor does not give him first hand knowledge

He kept himself insulated with walls of uniformed officers between him and the public. He drove businesses and people out of Newark which cost massive tax revenues and altered the standards for homicide to make it appear that he was lowering the homicide rate.

 

[basquebromance]

if only Cory Booker held a position of power like i dont know...US SENATOR & AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE