Could Bernie actually win NY, and save us from this long national nightmare?

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I'm no fan of free college education, because there's a reason sloth is a sin and both the Founders and Reagan opposed it, and I'm absolutely against any new federal programs, but something like 65% of us figure this supply side tax cut gimmick has really worn itself out.

And four to eight years of Hillary is not gonna be change to believe in.
 
It is very interesting. Has the country really gone so far communist that Sanders is a serious consideration or do they just want to stop hillary?
 
yes he can and Hillary can------but neither well be president <<< from the ORACLE AT USMB-----me...rosie
 
I'm no fan of free college education, because there's a reason sloth is a sin and both the Founders and Reagan opposed it, and I'm absolutely against any new federal programs, but something like 65% of us figure this supply side tax cut gimmick has really worn itself out.

And four to eight years of Hillary is not gonna be change to believe in.

The War on Terrorism is the GOPs party's major policy. It involves rebuilding Middle Eastern nations like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan - and it has been a terrible failure. It basically transfers money from taxpayers to defense industrial corporations, but the taxpayer gets nothing for it since the region has gotten less stable ever since we enacted the policy.

Here is my point. Rather than trying to rebuild Iraq (which is beyond Washington's power and budget), we could invest a portion of that money into education. It's not sloth if you are born poor but are given affordable education. Republicans don't get this. The Reason that other countries are surpassing in science and technology is because we no longer invest in this nation

Ronald Reagan's family was poor and they were saved by FDR's New Deal. This is why Ronald Reagan started his political career as a democrat, and it's why he campaigned for Truman. If you can find it, pick up a copy of Ronald Reagan's autobiography, written largely before he became president. It's called "Where's the Rest of Me". In this book Reagan tells of how his family was rescued by the New Deal. The Reagans didn't see this as a handout because they used government aid to better themselves. FDR saw the New Deal as an investment in American Citizens. He didn't call Americans lazy (as you've been trained to do). He had more faith in Americans than your party, which calls people lazy so it can justify policies that only subsidize and bailout the rich.

In short. You've been lied to. You should study the real history of Ronald Reagan. Please Turn off Talk Radio and FOX News. Please stop trying to save the world and start investing in this country and American citizens. (You've been lied to. Ask yourself why it is that you don't know how much government aid the Reagans received. Ask yourself why it is that you don't know how many times George Bush and the Republican congress raised the debt ceiling. Why do you trust information sources that don't teach history or report actual events?)
 
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It will be huge if Sanders wins New York. Clinton would become unravelled. Could get very interesting. Stay tuned.
 
The War on Terrorism is the GOPs party's major policy. It involves rebuilding Middle Eastern nations like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan - and it has been a terrible failure. It basically transfers money from taxpayers to defense industrial corporations, but the taxpayer gets nothing for it since the region has gotten less stable ever since we enacted the policy.

Here is my point. Rather than trying to rebuild Iraq (which is beyond Washington's power and budget), we could invest a portion of that money into education. It's not sloth if you are born poor but are given affordable education.

Ronald Reagan's family was poor and they were saved by FDR's New Deal. This is why Ronald Reagan started his political career as a democrat, and it's why he campaigned for Truman. If you can find it, pick up a copy of Ronald Reagan's autobiography, written largely before he became president. It's called "Where's the Rest of Me". In this book Reagan tells of how his family was rescued by the New Deal. It wasn't a handout because the Reagans used government help to better themselves. FDR saw the New Deal as an investment
in American Citizens. He didn't call Americans lazy. He had more faith in Americans than your party, which calls people lazy so it can justify policies that only subsidize and bailout the rich.

In short. You've been lied to. You should study the real history of Ronald Reagan. Please Turn off Talk Radio and FOX News.
No, the GOP isn't planning on rebuilding the middle east. Lots of dems are deeply involved in government contracts. FDR's new deal extended the depression many years, we cannot spend our way to prosperity. Reagan became a conservative so obviously didn't share your thoughts about who he was.

In short, you're full of shit. It's all you have.
 
Imagine the party of JFK "ask not what your Country can do for you but what you can do for your Country" coming this close to nominating a socialist in fifty years. The democrat run education system has finally produced the generation it has been looking for. A generation of morons.
 
It will be huge if Sanders wins New York. Clinton would become unravelled. Could get very interesting. Stay tuned.
How would that even be possible? The super delegates have made their choice regardless of the people's vote.
 
I'm no fan of free college education, because there's a reason sloth is a sin and both the Founders and Reagan opposed it, and I'm absolutely against any new federal programs, but something like 65% of us figure this supply side tax cut gimmick has really worn itself out.

And four to eight years of Hillary is not gonna be change to believe in.

The War on Terrorism is the GOPs party's major policy. It involves rebuilding Middle Eastern nations like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan - and it has been a terrible failure. It basically transfers money from taxpayers to defense industrial corporations, but the taxpayer gets nothing for it since the region has gotten less stable ever since we enacted the policy.

Here is my point. Rather than trying to rebuild Iraq (which is beyond Washington's power and budget), we could invest a portion of that money into education. It's not sloth if you are born poor but are given affordable education. Republicans don't get this. The Reason that other countries are surpassing in science and technology is because we no longer invest in this nation

Ronald Reagan's family was poor and they were saved by FDR's New Deal. This is why Ronald Reagan started his political career as a democrat, and it's why he campaigned for Truman. If you can find it, pick up a copy of Ronald Reagan's autobiography, written largely before he became president. It's called "Where's the Rest of Me". In this book Reagan tells of how his family was rescued by the New Deal. It wasn't a handout because the Reagans used government help to better themselves. FDR saw the New Deal as an investment
in American Citizens. He didn't call Americans lazy. He had more faith in Americans than your party, which calls people lazy so it can justify policies that only subsidize and bailout the rich.

In short. You've been lied to. You should study the real history of Ronald Reagan. Please Turn off Talk Radio and FOX News.


your post is shit-------WHO the frack do you imagine yourself to be that YOU---
are in a position to tell the world "WHAT's WHAT" ??? in fact lots of people
in the USA deride FDR as a COMMUNIST-------it is usually republican Nazis such
as yourself. Reagan was demented long before he became president. My own brother------a psychiatrist who did his graduate work in DEMENTIA-----made the
diagnosis DURING Reagan's first campaign for presidency----ALZHEIMER's.
"YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO.." is a very presumptuous and vulgar remark as IDIOTIC as is "YOU WATCH FOX NEWS" What is "talk radio"?
 
I'm no fan of free college education, because there's a reason sloth is a sin and both the Founders and Reagan opposed it, and I'm absolutely against any new federal programs, but something like 65% of us figure this supply side tax cut gimmick has really worn itself out.

And four to eight years of Hillary is not gonna be change to believe in.

Hillary won New York as Senator, they love her, but I don't. New York loves Donald because he's one of their own, but they hate Cruz for insulting New York values.

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Reagan ended California's free college education program because he saw the effect was educating a generation but creating a privileged bunch of spoiled malingerers.
It will be huge if Sanders wins New York. Clinton would become unravelled. Could get very interesting. Stay tuned.
How would that even be possible? The super delegates have made their choice regardless of the people's vote.
The Superdelagates are free to switch at anytime prior to a candidate being nominated. That's what makes them so super. Literally. They are all party insiders, and almost all have ties to the Clinton machine. But they are party loyalists first. If Bernie gives the dems the best chance of winning, I would expect they'll do their jobs. Bernie's problem is really that Hillary has beaten him by 2.5 million votes, and she only needs to win just north of 650 more pledged delegates to win without the superdelgates.

Bernie wins the caucus states because you have to be motivated to spend an entire weekend voting. BUT as Morning Joe noted, Bernie also does well if he's got lots of time to spend in a state and hold rally after rally. That's what happened in Mich and it's happening in Wis too. He's going to have two full weeks to campaign in New York, and he still talks like a Brooklyn guy. (drives me nuts lol) IF he can pull off NY, there's three full weeks before the next big slate, with Penn being the biggest prize. Mary and Conn too.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 â?? Democratic Delegate Count

And while Hill "only" needs 650 more pledged (won) delegates, Bernie only trails Hillary by 263 pledged delegates. Since the dems apportion delegates by %'s of votes, and not winner take all, the path to make up 263 seems nearly impossible. But if Hillary can't win NY, and if Bernie can win there and in Penn and Mary AND Calif ..... those superdelegates will have a tough choice.

People on this board have been complaining that the dem's primary system is rigged, but it's actually not. It's not purely democratic, but America's not a pure democracy either. The candidate who earns the greatest % of voters in each state (and not necessarily nation wide because caucus states have fewer voters) should typically be the nominee. And WHAT COULD BE FAIRER? But, the superdelegates job would be to support the guy with big mo and the best chance
 
Imagine the party of JFK "ask not what your Country can do for you but what you can do for your Country" coming this close to nominating a socialist in fifty years. The democrat run education system has finally produced the generation it has been looking for. A generation of morons.
Bernie's a new dealer. A bit to the left of JFK, who would not cow to unions, but Hillary and Obama are to the right of JFK on econ issues.

I think Bernie would be winning this thing but for he's having such a damn good time. Imagine being 74 and having kids treating you like a rock star. The last thing you'd want to do is start acting like a parent, but that's precisely what he needs to do to beat Hillary. Be the person all democrats would be proud to support.

God knows the gop's closet person is Kasich and he's as excited as ..... Ohio.
 
People on this board have been complaining that the dem's primary system is rigged, but it's actually not. It's not purely democratic, but America's not a pure democracy either. The candidate who earns the greatest % of voters in each state (and not necessarily nation wide because caucus states have fewer voters) should typically be the nominee. And WHAT COULD BE FAIRER? But, the superdelegates job would be to support the guy with big mo and the best chance
But that isn't what happens, and a bit on the Republican side too but to a much lessor degree. Hillary has been raking in the super delegate votes regardless of the voting pattern. There's no such thing as a pure democracy but this isn't even a representative system. The people didn't elect the super delegates.
 
Imagine the party of JFK "ask not what your Country can do for you but what you can do for your Country" coming this close to nominating a socialist in fifty years. The democrat run education system has finally produced the generation it has been looking for. A generation of morons.
Bernie's a new dealer. A bit to the left of JFK, who would not cow to unions, but Hillary and Obama are to the right of JFK on econ issues.

I think Bernie would be winning this thing but for he's having such a damn good time. Imagine being 74 and having kids treating you like a rock star. The last thing you'd want to do is start acting like a parent, but that's precisely what he needs to do to beat Hillary. Be the person all democrats would be proud to support.

God knows the gop's closet person is Kasich and he's as excited as ..... Ohio.
You have no clue. JFK lowered taxes. Hillary and obama are to the right of that? Bernie is a bit to the left? A bit to the left of ask not what your country can do for you?

Nope.
 
People on this board have been complaining that the dem's primary system is rigged, but it's actually not. It's not purely democratic, but America's not a pure democracy either. The candidate who earns the greatest % of voters in each state (and not necessarily nation wide because caucus states have fewer voters) should typically be the nominee. And WHAT COULD BE FAIRER? But, the superdelegates job would be to support the guy with big mo and the best chance
But that isn't what happens, and a bit on the Republican side too but to a much lessor degree. Hillary has been raking in the super delegate votes regardless of the voting pattern. There's no such thing as a pure democracy but this isn't even a representative system. The people didn't elect the super delegates.
Sure, but remember how the superdelegates abandoned her with Obama. She's a party insider and Bernie is not. But first and foremost, the superdelegates want a dem potus. If she's taking on water like the Exxon Valdez, a maj of superdelegates will turn on her faster than Exxon turned on that drunk captain. LOL
 
Imagine the party of JFK "ask not what your Country can do for you but what you can do for your Country" coming this close to nominating a socialist in fifty years. The democrat run education system has finally produced the generation it has been looking for. A generation of morons.
Bernie's a new dealer. A bit to the left of JFK, who would not cow to unions, but Hillary and Obama are to the right of JFK on econ issues.

I think Bernie would be winning this thing but for he's having such a damn good time. Imagine being 74 and having kids treating you like a rock star. The last thing you'd want to do is start acting like a parent, but that's precisely what he needs to do to beat Hillary. Be the person all democrats would be proud to support.

God knows the gop's closet person is Kasich and he's as excited as ..... Ohio.
You have no clue. JFK lowered taxes. Hillary and obama are to the right of that? Bernie is a bit to the left? A bit to the left of ask not what your country can do for you?

Nope.
JFK lowered taxes from NINTY PERCENT. LOL
 

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