Counting Those Chickens

[PoliticalChic]

Bernie....could he be their candidate?

The line is clearly drawn:


"We stand with the Venezuelan people in their noble quest for freedom -- and we condemn the brutality of the Maduro regime, whose socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject poverty and despair.

Here, in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country.

America was founded on liberty and independence --- not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free. Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country."
2019 State of the Union: Read the full transcript - CNNPolitics



"America will never be a socialist country."
Then it will never be controlled by Democrats.


The election will tell whether the voters will be Americans, or Democrats.

How can anyone quote Trump and keep a straight face? He has said everything at one time or another.

Seems quite a challenge keeping up with the number of things you admit you don't know.

Is it due to a lack of education, or a birth defect?

 

[alang1216]

I'm not doing a touchdown dance for Trump just yet, there is a lot of politics to be debated in the next two years. Vegas has Trump a heavy 2020 favorite with the dems still bunched up. If/when Biden jumps in there will be a major shift in the standings. I hope Biden gets in, that will force Trump to become more presidential.

Donald Trump +175
Bernie Sanders +650
Kamala Harris +650
Joe Biden +650
Beto O’Rourke +900

10."If Joe fades, Bernie and the comrades will have removed the last large roadblock to a socialist takeover of the national Democratic Party.


11. And what would then happen ...
An all-out effort to abolish the Electoral College that is integral to the historic compromise that created our federal Union. Puerto Rico and D.C. would become states, giving Democrats four more Senators and making America a bilingual nation.

A drive would be on to give 16-year-olds and convicted felons the right to vote in federal elections, freezing Republicans out of power forever. A packing of the Supreme Court would begin by raising by six the number of justices and elevating liberal activists to the new seats.


12. On the southern border, where 100,000 illegal migrants were apprehended in March, Trump's wall would come down, all peoples fleeing repression in Central America would be welcomed into the U.S., sanctuary cities would become the norm, and ICE would be abolished.

Open borders would be a reality, along with amnesty for the 12 million-20 million people here illegally, with a path to citizenship for all."
2020: Socialist America or Trump's America?



13. The Democrats would get their wishes fulfilled:

"No Trump, No Wall, No USA at All'

put me down for # 11

 

[alang1216]

Seems quite a challenge keeping up with the number of things you admit you don't know.

Is it due to a lack of education, or a birth defect?

One thing I don't know is where his father was born?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm not doing a touchdown dance for Trump just yet, there is a lot of politics to be debated in the next two years. Vegas has Trump a heavy 2020 favorite with the dems still bunched up. If/when Biden jumps in there will be a major shift in the standings. I hope Biden gets in, that will force Trump to become more presidential.

Donald Trump +175
Bernie Sanders +650
Kamala Harris +650
Joe Biden +650
Beto O’Rourke +900

10."If Joe fades, Bernie and the comrades will have removed the last large roadblock to a socialist takeover of the national Democratic Party.


11. And what would then happen ...
An all-out effort to abolish the Electoral College that is integral to the historic compromise that created our federal Union. Puerto Rico and D.C. would become states, giving Democrats four more Senators and making America a bilingual nation.

A drive would be on to give 16-year-olds and convicted felons the right to vote in federal elections, freezing Republicans out of power forever. A packing of the Supreme Court would begin by raising by six the number of justices and elevating liberal activists to the new seats.


12. On the southern border, where 100,000 illegal migrants were apprehended in March, Trump's wall would come down, all peoples fleeing repression in Central America would be welcomed into the U.S., sanctuary cities would become the norm, and ICE would be abolished.

Open borders would be a reality, along with amnesty for the 12 million-20 million people here illegally, with a path to citizenship for all."
2020: Socialist America or Trump's America?



13. The Democrats would get their wishes fulfilled:

"No Trump, No Wall, No USA at All'

put me down for # 11

Is it possible you mean "put me down" in the same way the phrase is used for rabid dogs?

Don't get my hopes up.

 

[alang1216]

What you see is a political party in it's death throws on it's last leg and gasping it's last breath. The sooner it's all gone the better it will be for America. If those last holdouts are looking for somewhere else to go, I suggest they take a look at the libertarians. It's either that or the republicans as the greens etc. are really no choice at all.

Be careful what you wish for. If the Dems split the more moderate faction would pull in a lot of the GOP.

 

[Dick Foster]

If you vote for Democrats, let's see what visions of sugar-plums dance in your head.....


14. "The Green New Deal would be enacted. Medicare for all. Free tuition for college students. Millennial college debts paid off by the government. Free pre-K schooling and day care. Guaranteed jobs for all. A guaranteed living wage. Repeal of the Reagan and Trump tax cuts. A re-raising of the corporate rate and a return of the top rate for individuals to 70 percent. New wealth taxes on the rich.

15. With climate change seen as an existential planetary peril, fossil fuel-powered energy plants -- coal, oil, natural gas -- would be phased out and a new national reliance on solar and wind begun.

16.There would be reparations for slavery. Abortion on demand right up to birth for all women. MarijuYana would be legalized. Harris has urged that prostitution, sex work, be legalized."
2020: Socialist America or Trump's America?



Can Democrat voters be this stooooooppppid????

You betcha'!!!!


Look who they elected last time.

And to back up their stupidity look at what they tried to elect which is exactly how and why Trump won. To drive the point home, they have constantly continued to double down on their stupidity ever since. A smarter person, finding themselves in a hole, puts down the shovel and stops digging.

 

[PoliticalChic]

17. "To achieve Bernie Sanders' Socialist America, the filibuster would have to be abolished, easily done, and the Constitution altered, ....Joe Biden, who is taking fire from many quarters, appears to be the last man standing between Sanders Socialism and the Democratic nomination.

Should Joe falter and fall, Trump would be the nation's last line of defense against the coming of a Socialist America."
2020: Socialist America or Trump's America?



18. It would be no aberration to find that the Democrat Party is socialist at its core.
America was founded under the law of the land, the Constitution, but Democrats seem perturbed at the ratification of the document.
Limited constitutional government is not their favorite flavor.

This was the view in the FDR administration:
"Any people who must be governed according to the written codes [that means the Constitution] of an instrument which defines the spheres of individual and group, state and federal actions must expect to suffer from the constant maladjustment of progress. A life' which changes and a constitution for governance which does not must always raise questions which are difficult for solution."


20. Under Democrats, governance is a religious obligation.


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).
From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter



20. Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.

And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck

 

[Fang]

It almost feels like Dems know they don't have a chance in 2020 and are just floating a bunch of nutcases out there. Maybe they're really eyeing 2024.

/---/ So which democRAT will be the sacrificial lamb?

Good question. I don't think the Democrats will nominate a white male. Unless that white male is a socialist promising a free ride. I think it's Bernie Sanders.

Hard to believe America would elect a socialist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It almost feels like Dems know they don't have a chance in 2020 and are just floating a bunch of nutcases out there. Maybe they're really eyeing 2024.

/---/ So which democRAT will be the sacrificial lamb?

Good question. I don't think the Democrats will nominate a white male. Unless that white male is a socialist promising a free ride. I think it's Bernie Sanders.

Hard to believe America would elect a socialist.

Hate to quibble, but it is perfectly appropriate to call Bernie a communist.

The two terms represent 'a distinction without a difference.'



"While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, [Eugene Victor] Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery.

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

.... he named their city softball squad the “People’s Republic of Burlington” and the town’s minor league baseball team the “Vermont Reds.”


His radical activities didn’t stop at the water’s edge.

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

His betrayal did not end there. Sanders lobbied the White House to stop the proxy war and even tried to broker a peace deal. He adopted Managua as a sister city and invited Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega to visit the US. He exalted Ortega as “an impressive guy,” while attacking President Reagan.

“The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people — substantially more support — than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,” Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985.

..... honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion "

Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a “speculation tax,” but hit every American with a “global-warming tax.”

Of course, even that wouldn’t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right? "
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/.

Are there voters who can be tricked into voting for a communist?

Yup.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Going forward, investors are optimistic that President Trump will continue to push back on socialist policies while giving capitalism the freedom to flourish. It also appears that a trade deal with China is forthcoming, as evidenced by Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin’smeeting in China, giving investors further cause for optimism. Less than three years ago, China was pirating U.S. inventions without limit; now we’re on the verge of a historic agreement to open up China’s markets to free, fair, and reciprocal competition.

President Trump has been an unwavering champion of capitalism in the White House, and the effectiveness of his pro-growth agenda is showing that capitalism is still the surest route to prosperity."
Trump And Capitalism Is A Winning Combination