Couple considering divorce to pay for childs healthcare

[koshergrl]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Yup... They don't want voluntary "help" they want funding forced from the populace at gunpoint. How noble...

They don't want their friends and family to pay for it.

They want you and me to pay for it.

 

[Confounding]

Wait penelope, you want to hear more shitty stories like this?
Sociopath?

The sociopaths are the ones that don't see why healthcare should be readily available to all people despite their income. They're the ones that think a person is selfish for doing anything to help their children and other loved ones. There are things in this world that matter more than money, or should anyway. This country has absolutely no soul and that's what will lead to its doom.

 

[Penelope]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Yup... They don't want voluntary "help" they want funding forced from the populace at gunpoint. How noble...

Do they have a gun??

 

[Penelope]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Yup... They don't want voluntary "help" they want funding forced from the populace at gunpoint. How noble...

They don't want their friends and family to pay for it.

They want you and me to pay for it.

And you folks are the ones who are pro life. Go figure.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Technically, it's constitutional for the states to help their citizens. And they should do that.

It's the fact that the federal government is involved with it that becomes the problem. Those federal fuckers need to be controlled strictly for a change. Sorry for my French but this stuff ticks me off.

These people should be assisted at the state level. Get the feds out of medicaid.

 

[Confounding]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

Maybe the system shouldn't be so inhumane that people divorce out of desperation to get help for their children.

But forcing other people to cover your mistakes is humane?

Feeling personally slighted by this is crazy. The government is going to take a bunch of your money no matter what, but rather than harp about the military or the fact that rich people avoid taxes you'd rather get your panties in a twist over a poor person finding a way to get help for their child? There are about a million things I'd take issue with before that. Do you really not see that that comes from a place of evil and selfishness?

 

[TNHarley]

These people DIDNT do what they needed to do. Thats why they need everyone else to bail them out.
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

What are they suppose to do???

Not have kids when you are broke, perhaps?

Not broke, 40 grand a year. No one expects their child to be developmentally disabled.

No one expects a lot of shit to happen. Thats why people prepare.
And that still doesnt change the fact these morons would rather FORCE taxpayers, by gaming the system, than ask for donations.

She would probably be working but instead she is home taking care of her baby. The med income in the US is 55 grand, so a lot of people are in this position.

A lot of people making minor money and having kids and then expecting everyone else to take care of them? I agree.

 

[Anathema]

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Bullshit. They want charity. They just don’t want voluntary charity. Instead they prefer everyone be forced to donate at gun point - under the auspices of taxation.

 

[TNHarley]

Wait penelope, you want to hear more shitty stories like this?
Sociopath?

The sociopaths are the ones that don't see why healthcare should be readily available to all people despite their income. They're the ones that think a person is selfish for doing anything to help their children and other loved ones. There are things in this world that matter more than money, or should anyway. This country has absolutely no soul and that's what will lead to its doom.

We wont ever agree on this. I dont believe in forcing other people to take care of others.
I dont believe people should be subsidized simply for existing.
And i damn sure dont understand why these assholes dont want donations but are happy FORCING people to help them.
You are right, many things matter more than money. Like integrity and not being forced by big brother to work just to pay for someone elses shit. Or, basically, free labor.

 

[TNHarley]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

Maybe the system shouldn't be so inhumane that people divorce out of desperation to get help for their children.

But forcing other people to cover your mistakes is humane?

Feeling personally slighted by this is crazy. The government is going to take a bunch of your money no matter what, but rather than harp about the military or the fact that rich people avoid taxes you'd rather get your panties in a twist over a poor person finding a way to get help for their child? There are about a million things I'd take issue with before that. Do you really not see that that comes from a place of evil and selfishness?

Actually, i bitch about that too. Both of them.
Anything else?

 

[Confounding]

I think you're a good and intelligent person Harley, but I also think somewhere along the way you went off track and got focused on the wrong problems in some instances.

 

[koshergrl]

Wait penelope, you want to hear more shitty stories like this?
Sociopath?

The sociopaths are the ones that don't see why healthcare should be readily available to all people despite their income. They're the ones that think a person is selfish for doing anything to help their children and other loved ones. There are things in this world that matter more than money, or should anyway. This country has absolutely no soul and that's what will lead to its doom.

hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

This is a scam by free loaders who don't want to take care of their own kid..OR have any of their friends or family help them take care of their kid.

 

[Confounding]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

Maybe the system shouldn't be so inhumane that people divorce out of desperation to get help for their children.

But forcing other people to cover your mistakes is humane?

Feeling personally slighted by this is crazy. The government is going to take a bunch of your money no matter what, but rather than harp about the military or the fact that rich people avoid taxes you'd rather get your panties in a twist over a poor person finding a way to get help for their child? There are about a million things I'd take issue with before that. Do you really not see that that comes from a place of evil and selfishness?

Actually, i bitch about that too. Both of them.
Anything else?

Some are a lot more important than others in my opinion. I could never be upset at the parents. GoFundMe is not a solution to our healthcare crisis. Not everybody can get the help they need through charity.

 

[TNHarley]

I think you're a good and intelligent person Harley, but I also think somewhere along the way you went off track and got focused on the wrong problems in some instances.

To each their own. And like i said, i bitch about many more things.
My disdain for these people is more than their irresponsibility. It is the fact that they demand forcing taxpayers to help them while they reject voluntary help.

 

[Confounding]

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Bullshit. They want charity. They just don’t want voluntary charity. Instead they prefer everyone be forced to donate at gun point - under the auspices of taxation.

If there was no other option then the kid should have just died, or what?

 

[TNHarley]

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

Maybe the system shouldn't be so inhumane that people divorce out of desperation to get help for their children.

But forcing other people to cover your mistakes is humane?

Feeling personally slighted by this is crazy. The government is going to take a bunch of your money no matter what, but rather than harp about the military or the fact that rich people avoid taxes you'd rather get your panties in a twist over a poor person finding a way to get help for their child? There are about a million things I'd take issue with before that. Do you really not see that that comes from a place of evil and selfishness?

Actually, i bitch about that too. Both of them.
Anything else?

Some are a lot more important than others in my opinion. I could never be upset at the parents. GoFundMe is not a solution to our healthcare crisis. Not everybody can get the help they need through charity.

What have i heard?
I heard medical treatment was a lot cheaper before the govt got involved. And it was chepaer before insurance companies came on the scene.
More than likely, our healthcare "crisis" is caused by the same disease that causes most of the problems in this country.
The government.

 

[Confounding]

Maybe the system shouldn't be so inhumane that people divorce out of desperation to get help for their children.

But forcing other people to cover your mistakes is humane?

Feeling personally slighted by this is crazy. The government is going to take a bunch of your money no matter what, but rather than harp about the military or the fact that rich people avoid taxes you'd rather get your panties in a twist over a poor person finding a way to get help for their child? There are about a million things I'd take issue with before that. Do you really not see that that comes from a place of evil and selfishness?

Actually, i bitch about that too. Both of them.
Anything else?

Some are a lot more important than others in my opinion. I could never be upset at the parents. GoFundMe is not a solution to our healthcare crisis. Not everybody can get the help they need through charity.

What have i heard?
I heard medical treatment was a lot cheaper before the govt got involved. And it was chepaer before insurance companies came on the scene.
More than likely, our healthcare "crisis" is caused by the same disease that causes most of the problems in this country.
The government.

As much as I hate it the government is necessary in some instances, and I think healthcare is one of them. There are ways it can be done well. Rather than saying "Fuck it the government can't do anything right." we should be figuring out how to make them do it right, or more right. It's not impossible, and in the case of healthcare it is worth fighting for.

 

[Vastator]

I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.

Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Yup... They don't want voluntary "help" they want funding forced from the populace at gunpoint. How noble...

Do they have a gun??

More cowardly still... They'd prefer someone wield the gun on their behalf ... You know...? Like cowardly Leftists...

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Happily married couple considers divorce to pay for daughter's health care costs
Jake and Maria Grey are happily married with two children. But they're considering a divorce, for the sake of one of their kids.

The Texas couple say it's the only way their developmentally disabled daughter can qualify for Medicaid and get the health care she needs.

The Greys got married nine years ago on a Florida beach. They have since become the proud parents of two daughters, 2-year-old Fairen and 6-year-old Brighton, who was born with a rare genetic disorder, Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome. Developmentally still a newborn, Brighton requires around-the-clock attention.

"She will not be able to be on her own ever and requires 24/7 care," Maria Grey said.

The couple has tried to get Medicaid to help with spiraling medical costs but Jake earns too much — $40,000 — for the family to qualify. The Greys applied for state assistance but don't expect to get it because of where they fall on the list.

"We're No. 60,000," Maria said.
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Sad story. Really sad, i thought.
Then i saw this
"We are not looking for charity, we're not looking for money or donations. We don't want a GoFundMe — we don't want any of that," Maria said. "I need the state to step up and give us the benefits that we need.
and realized they are morons. No wonder they cant provide for their child..
If they couldnt afford a child, why did they have 2? More stupidity? Poor preparation? Irresponsibility?
IDK, seems hard to have sympathy for the parents
I have it for that poor child though :/

Something is wrong with this story Man. This kid will and can apply for SS disability benifits and medicare under Federal Law. So what the problem is that they either do not know about the law or they have some other unreported reason for going public.

 

[Vastator]

They are right for not wanting go fund me account. They are not wanting donations, just help from the local and fed gov for healthcare. I hope more of these stories come out. There are many.

Bullshit. They want charity. They just don’t want voluntary charity. Instead they prefer everyone be forced to donate at gun point - under the auspices of taxation.

If there was no other option then the kid should have just died, or what?

There are always other options. Downsize your home, reduce your necessary income some one parent can stay at home. Move to a lower cost of living area... The truth is most people like this don't want to change their lifestyle to accomodate their supposed desires.