Court upholds a persons right to legally resist an illegal arrest.

[Doc7505]

An interesting note in another ruling against the police. I have often argued it is legal to resist an illegal arrest. The judge clearly notes this is fact.


Ellis also said it's settled law that, based on rulings from the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, that individuals are within their rights to resist an unlawful arrest, and that any force used to effectuate a false arrest is by definition excessive force.

Landlord gets $50K after deputies use Taser in false arrest

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Who determines what is a lawful or unlawful arrest at the time of arrest?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is really going to piss off the "comply or die" folks on this forum

 

[Leo123]

resisting isnt always a physical act,,,

OK, so tell the cop what he is doing is illegal. Prove it in court.

 

[progressive hunter]

OK, so tell the cop what he is doing is illegal. Prove it in court.

who the fuck are you to tell me or anyone else what to do??

I would rather try and solve it in the field than pay thousands to a lawyer to prove it in court,,,

 

[White 6]

resisting isnt always a physical act,,,

For the cops to taze or beat you further into submission, it should be, but may not be.

 

[pknopp]

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Who determines what is a lawful or unlawful arrest at the time of arrest?

The law. The cops need to understand them.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, it's for everyone BUT again, I have no desire to further address your dishonest replies.

No....I'm just asking a valid question.
Peers that black people can get away with murder....and if they die resisting arrest they'll riot and later throw a party for them.....maybe pay their family as few million dollars.....and if they're lucky....Al Fucking Sharpton will have the government buy them a golden coffin to bury them in.

 

[mudwhistle]

The law. The cops need to understand them.

They understand them better than anyone.
The problem is blacks don't give a flying-fuck about the law.

 

[Leo123]

who the fuck are you to tell me or anyone else what to do??

I would rather try and solve it in the field than pay thousands to a lawyer to prove it in court,,,

OK, so the officer didn't know the law. 'Mr. Patriot' was never under arrest in the first place.

 

[progressive hunter]

OK, so the officer didn't know the law. 'Mr. Patriot' was never under arrest in the first place.

if they pull you over you are under arrest,,,

he resisted and it was determined they were wrong and walked away,,

 

[Leo123]

if they pull you over you are under arrest,,,

he resisted and it was determined they were wrong and walked away,,

No that is false. You are legally detained until they officially arrest you and they have to have good reason. They did not have a good reason in that video.

 

[shockedcanadian]

An interesting note in another ruling against the police. I have often argued it is legal to resist an illegal arrest. The judge clearly notes this is fact.


Ellis also said it's settled law that, based on rulings from the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, that individuals are within their rights to resist an unlawful arrest, and that any force used to effectuate a false arrest is by definition excessive force.

Landlord gets $50K after deputies use Taser in false arrest

Sure, legally resist an illegal arrest and end up with five bullets in chest.

As a Canadian lawyer told me about confronting Canada creepy police state, forcing the upholding of our Charter of Rights, "great in theory".

 

[progressive hunter]

No that is false. You are legally detained until they officially arrest you and they have to have good reason. They did not have a good reason in that video.

wrong,, they have to have a good reason to pull you over which means you violated a law and are under arrest,,

they cant pull you over for suspicion or any other reason,,,

 

[pknopp]

Sure, legally resist an illegal arrest and end up with five bullets in chest.

As a Canadian lawyer told me about confronting Canada creepy police state, forcing the upholding of our Charter of Rights, "great in theory".

We have begun to hold the police accountable to the same laws they are supposed to support. I can't speak on Canada.

 

[Delldude]

Sure, but the courts are saying the same about law enforcement.

Tell 'em you know your rights and don't open the window.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

wrong,, they have to have a good reason to pull you over which means you violated a law and are under arrest,,

they cant pull you over for suspicion or any other reason,,,

They do to us truck drivers all the time. It takes place thousands of times a day.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

An interesting note in another ruling against the police. I have often argued it is legal to resist an illegal arrest. The judge clearly notes this is fact.


Ellis also said it's settled law that, based on rulings from the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, that individuals are within their rights to resist an unlawful arrest, and that any force used to effectuate a false arrest is by definition excessive force.

Landlord gets $50K after deputies use Taser in false arrest

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[shockedcanadian]

We have begun to hold the police accountable to the same laws they are supposed to support. I can't speak on Canada.

I pray you are right. I've been warning Americans for a long time not to become like us.

Herein lies the problem similar to ours; how do you know who the undercovers are in NYPD, LAPD etc? THIS is where the major problems exist.

Maybe a decade ago there was a video of an undercover NYPD cop who was a member of some bike gang. He got out and attacked a driver, either smashed their car or contributed to physical damage. They were eventually outed as an undercover.

How many similar situations occur with plain clothed cops and no one is the wiser? This is a National Security threat to Canadas future, it will be for you as well the more you emulate us (NYPD and other North East U.S police forced definitely emulate our methods).

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We have begun to hold the police accountable to the same laws they are supposed to support. I can't speak on Canada.

These deputies had a warrant from a judge to arrest this guy. He has a criminal history. He fights with the police and they had to tase him to complete the arrest. What are we holding the police accountable for anyway?

 

[progressive hunter]

They do to us truck drivers all the time. It takes place thousands of times a day.

thats commercial under a different set of laws you agreed to when you took the job,,