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people that got the actual virus still have B cells and T cells.You left out young people and ones who have already had the virus. What percentage do they represent?
Certain parts of the world are gonna be all but depopulated, possibly including the American south, India, large swaths of Africa and the middle east. That's gonna change everything from political considerations to the world economy.I'm going to hope that we can stay on topic here. There are already more than enough threads on vaccine efficacy.
It's becoming more and more clear that we're not going to get enough people vaccinated to create a "herd immunity", or whatever the hell we were hoping for. Those who are against this -- whatever their reasons -- appear to have won. Their individual "freedom" and their "liberty" remain intact, and the rest will be able to avoid it for whatever reason it is that scares them.
All that excitement about getting the vaccines available is over. Wasted.
So let's get real: Now that we have decided the virus and its future variants and mutations aren't going away, how do you think this plays out in terms of public health? In terms of how it affects the economy?
What's next? How do you see this playing out?
2.2% of Covid positive cases died!!! 10% have permeant disability.What happens next? Sooner or later folks will realize that all this bullshit isn't really worth it for a 99.9% survivable virus.
Deaths follow infections by as much as weeks and infections are rising rapidlyYes, because there has never been a safer time for the vaccinated & covid-19 survivors to live! The weekly deaths from all causes that shot up 57% due to covid before vaccines, has now fallen to the lowest in US history. Suffering masking, lockdowns, distancing & risking novel virus harm is now a choice.
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Like what?I'm sure that in the 2024 election campaign, President Trump will propose ideas to get rid of this plague.
It's Joe's fault you morons won't get your shots?The thing people are forgetting is that Biden and his Never-Trump base are the ones responsible right now
You do realize that the majority of the population can effectively use their own immune system to fight off respiratory viruses, don't you?Well, people that are vaccinated and wear masks will become ill less, spread the infection less, and die in fewer numbers.
People who refuse to get vaccinated and won't wear masks will get sick, spread the infection more, and die in larger numbers.
Eventually, enough people that refuse to be part of the solution will get sick and change their mind.
And eventually, between the people that die, the people that change their mind because they know someone that died,
and the people that are part of the solution, the US will reach a level that COVID is no longer a pandemic.
I think the word for it is "culling".
It's a shame because the a big point of having evolved a substantial cerebral cortex
is to be able to react quickly to changes in the environment and
avoid problems that result in natural culling of the population.
tRumplings are not self aware enough to understand future consequences.Deaths follow infections by as much as weeks and infections are rising rapidly
Fla just had their highest number of daily infections EVER and over 100 people died.
Things are changing rapidly
My concern is that dragging it out like this will allow the virus to create variants that will render vaccines impotent.Well, people that are vaccinated and wear masks will become ill less, spread the infection less, and die in fewer numbers.
People who refuse to get vaccinated and won't wear masks will get sick, spread the infection more, and die in larger numbers.
Eventually, enough people that refuse to be part of the solution will get sick and change their mind.
And eventually, between the people that die, the people that change their mind because they know someone that died,
and the people that are part of the solution, the US will reach a level that COVID is no longer a pandemic.
I think the word for it is "culling".
It's a shame because the a big point of having evolved a substantial cerebral cortex
is to be able to react quickly to changes in the environment and
avoid problems that result in natural culling of the population.
No. We know no such thingYou do realize that the majority of the population can effectively use their own immune system to fight off respiratory viruses, don't you?
Right! A more robust host can stay on it's feet longer and spread the virus far and wide!Eat a healthy diet, fresh fruits, vegetables, fish, nuts etc. Stay away from processed foods, carbonated sweet drinks. Get to a healthy weight for your age. Walk, exercise. Drink lots of water. Healthy food is the best medicine.
EVERYBODY's risk of severe disease is low.but their risk of severe disease is low
What will happen next is what's happening now.I'm going to hope that we can stay on topic here. There are already more than enough threads on vaccine efficacy.
It's becoming more and more clear that we're not going to get enough people vaccinated to create a "herd immunity", or whatever the hell we were hoping for. Those who are against this -- whatever their reasons -- appear to have won. Their individual "freedom" and their "liberty" remain intact, and the rest will be able to avoid it for whatever reason it is that scares them.
All that excitement about getting the vaccines available is over. Wasted.
So let's get real: Now that we have decided the virus and its future variants and mutations aren't going away, how do you think this plays out in terms of public health? In terms of how it affects the economy?
What's next? How do you see this playing out?
Right! A more robust host can stay on it's feet longer and spread the virus far and wide!
Right! A more robust host can stay on it's feet longer and spread the virus far and wide!
When we believe bogus claims like you just madeA healthy person usually doesn't have a virus long enough to spread it. We really are reaching new levels of dumb on usmb.
PWe can't make the hard choices any more; we can't admit our system of government is broken, we can't admit that our election infrastructure needs updating, we can't admit that our 50 "baby" governments are just as dysfunctional as the central government, we have an electoral college that is poised to deliver a 269/269 split, we have all sorts of colonies around the globe that we should incorporate into states so people don't continue to believe that some citizens are more "American" than others... And I haven't even started on the 1/2 of the nation who fully believes that 11 different state elections, dozens of county-wide elections, and every court and law enforcement agency is rigged against them.
We're a nation of 13 y/o girls and 10 y/o boys.
Covid is just the latest example of us not wanting to make a hard choice. You take the vaccine and keep doing the 3 big steps (hand washing, masking, and social distancing) and this thing goes away. The discomfort level is almost non existent.... we won't do it. Just like we won't get rid of public TV, admit that having 4 gazillion guns may be adding to the gun violence that we have and no other first world nation does...just like the climate change deniers...
We need to grow up and we need to do it fast.
We'll get there eventually. When your kid can't play football or you can't attend if you're not vaccinated...yeah...we'll get there. Doing it because it's the right thing to do is not an option for most people. All to pity them more.
It's Joe's fault you morons won't get your shots?
Do you know how stupid you sound right now?