Creationism and Climate Change

[Kosh]

I am not so sure about that figure but the truly hard-core creationist crowd has been told to believe in the literal word of the bible or spend eternity in everlasting torment. It's not like believing in evolution or creation makes any real difference in one's everyday life so I am not as prone to fight that battle as I once was. If a persons personal belief makes them feel happy and secure then who am I to spoil that? As to climate change, I am of the opinion that it is much, much too late to avoid disaster so I am not wasting a bunch of time fighting that battle either. We are doomed to suffer the side-effects of runaway technological progress, I am just trying to concentrate on the things we have a chance to make positive change.

You're probably right about that. If there is any conspiracy at all connected with global climate change it has more to do with concealing the truth about how bad things really are.

Another AGW religious cult member shows how they deny real science..

It is often reported that the temperature of the earth is higher the past 30 years than it has ever been in history. This is simply not true, nor has it ever been. Hundreds of research studies using ice cores, pollen sedimentation, tree rings, etc. have shown that there were dozens of periods in the past 11,000 years (the Holocene period) that earth's temperature was warmer than it is today. Earth's temperature was very much warmer at least four times during the current interglacial period.

Watch them deny real science over and over again to promote AGW religious dogma..

All meaningless for you since you have no way to put any of it into an actual context.

More proof that the AGW cult will deny real science for religious dogma..

Again, meaningless for you since your knowledge of climate science is all superficial and anecdotal.

And once again the AGW cult proves that they believe religious dogma over real and actual science..

 

[Kosh]

And yet 42% of Americans continue to believe that bronze age mythology trumps science.

It's a very similar phenomenon to how a sizable portion of Americans believe that 21st century mythology is science.

It must be part of a vast diabolical international conspiracy of scientists and governments designed to subvert individual freedom....does that about sum it up?

Yes when the far left grabs hold of things and then negates any real science over a religious belief this is what happens..

CO2 does NOT control climate.

Thus defeating the AGW religious texts.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Polls show that an astounding 42% of Americans literally believe in the Biblical story of creation, rejecting the science of evolution. There seems to be a very close correlation between these people and folks who deny the facts of climate change. Since they reject the undeniable scientific fundamentals of evolution how can anyone take them seriously on any issue concerning science? Why would their opinions matter?

In U.S. 42 Believe Creationist View of Human Origins

Serious question: According to evolutionists, what started it all? What do they think was the beginning that everything evolved from? There had to be matter in some form in order to have something evolve. So, where did that original matter come from?

 

[Kosh]

Polls show that an astounding 42% of Americans literally believe in the Biblical story of creation, rejecting the science of evolution. There seems to be a very close correlation between these people and folks who deny the facts of climate change. Since they reject the undeniable scientific fundamentals of evolution how can anyone take them seriously on any issue concerning science? Why would their opinions matter?

In U.S. 42 Believe Creationist View of Human Origins

Serious question: According to evolutionists, what started it all? What do they think was the beginning that everything evolved from? There had to be matter in some form in order to have something evolve. So, where did that original matter come from?

A pool of goo!!

 

[Sonny Clark]

Polls show that an astounding 42% of Americans literally believe in the Biblical story of creation, rejecting the science of evolution. There seems to be a very close correlation between these people and folks who deny the facts of climate change. Since they reject the undeniable scientific fundamentals of evolution how can anyone take them seriously on any issue concerning science? Why would their opinions matter?

In U.S. 42 Believe Creationist View of Human Origins

Serious question: According to evolutionists, what started it all? What do they think was the beginning that everything evolved from? There had to be matter in some form in order to have something evolve. So, where did that original matter come from?

A pool of goo!!

Ha Ha Ha ------ Very good. I guess that about explains it. But, wait, where did the "goo" come from?

 

[SwimExpert]

It must be part of a vast diabolical international conspiracy of scientists and governments designed to subvert individual freedom....does that about sum it up?

No, it's nothing so complex. It's much simpler. It boils down to a branch of science with a few too many self righteous egos who managed to scare up enough common folk and politicians that they've managed to make all the funding and education revolve around affirming their own bad conclusions.

Unfortunately being a "climate scientist" pretty much requires that an individual accept the claim of global warming. It happens, accept it, don't question it, spend your time supporting it. That is how climate "science" works in the 21st century. Ever notice how there's never anyone out there doing research to test the hypotheses of global warming happening? Instead, all the research is aimed at connecting the dots to attribute observations to global warming. The entire field of science operates on the assumption that it's true, without concern for verification.

Let's not forget, this is the same branch of science which, just a few decades ago, was in "consensus" that the planet was in imminent peril of an impending glacial period. The planet was supposed to be a snowball by now.

The truth is that modern climate "science" needs a massive dose of humility and realism. These guys believe that they can account for massive amounts of variables that no other branch of science would dare claim are possible to account for. They believe that the events in their own lifetimes are significant indicators of geological trends that take place over millions of years.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Polls show that an astounding 42% of Americans literally believe in the Biblical story of creation, rejecting the science of evolution. There seems to be a very close correlation between these people and folks who deny the facts of climate change. Since they reject the undeniable scientific fundamentals of evolution how can anyone take them seriously on any issue concerning science? Why would their opinions matter?

In U.S. 42 Believe Creationist View of Human Origins

Climate change facts: No warming for 2 decades, CO2 satellite shows the Amazon, the Congo and Indonesia as the biggest CO2 generators

^ Carbon Footprint reduced

You win

Game over

Now shut the fuck up

 

[Sonny Clark]

Polls show that an astounding 42% of Americans literally believe in the Biblical story of creation, rejecting the science of evolution. There seems to be a very close correlation between these people and folks who deny the facts of climate change. Since they reject the undeniable scientific fundamentals of evolution how can anyone take them seriously on any issue concerning science? Why would their opinions matter?

In U.S. 42 Believe Creationist View of Human Origins

Climate change facts: No warming for 2 decades, CO2 satellite shows teh Amazon the Congo and Indonesia as the biggest CO2 generators

^ Carbon Footprint reduced

You win

Game over

Now shut the fuck up

And, they forget quickly that the Earth is in constant change, and has been since the beginning. The Earth has gone through many periods of change, and will forever change. The Earth is not stable, nor will it ever be. And, if there is such a thing as "global warming", it's just more change following suit, no biggie. Besides, who knows, we might be frozen over 10,000 years from now. Did you read recently about the depth of the ice on both poles getting thicker and deeper? Wow, global warming in action, for sure. ( pun intended )

 

[SwimExpert]

Besides, who knows, we might be frozen over 10,000 years from now.

Possibly, but not likely. The best predictions have the current interglacial period lasting for approximately 50,000 more years. That is, assuming that the current ice age continues, which is the best guess at the moment.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Climate change will kill off the huge mass of humanity, solving the problem of overpopulation. Out of the desolation will evolve the new, weather-resistant human.

 

[2aguy]

I believe in creation and some sort of evolution.....God makes it all work....really all I need to know since studying those issues doesn't interest me.....

 

[Sonny Clark]

Besides, who knows, we might be frozen over 10,000 years from now.

Possibly, but not likely. The best predictions have the current interglacial period lasting for approximately 50,000 more years. That is, assuming that the current ice age continues, which is the best guess at the moment.

Well, one never knows for sure. Hell, we don't even know what will happen in the next six months. We could have a dozen volcanos erupt at the same time, spewing ash into the atmosphere and blocking out the sun for months. We could have devastating earth quakes that cause rivers to change course. Anyone can make guesses, and science does have data do guide them, but in the end, we just don't know what will happen.

 

[whitehall]

About 35% of Americans think there was a government conspiracy in 9-11. Almost the same percentage believe in man-made global warming. Is there a correlation?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Climate change will kill off the huge mass of humanity, solving the problem of overpopulation. Out of the desolation will evolve the new, weather-resistant human.

What movie did you see that in? Or, was it a book that you read? Just curious. Yep, those sci-fi movies will make people think for sure.

 

[konradv]

Serious question: According to evolutionists, what started it all? What do they think was the beginning that everything evolved from? There had to be matter in some form in order to have something evolve. So, where did that original matter come from?

How can we consider this to be a serious question? Anyone who payed attention in school knows what the theory entails. If there's a question in your mind about it, that's not the fault of liberals, it's yours for not applying yourself in school. As my H.S. biology teacher said, "you don't have to believe the theory, but you do have to learn the principles involved". Good advice since, even if you totally discount evolution, it helps to know the ins and outs of the theory, if you're trying to debunk it. That's why so many creationists do so badly in debates, they employ off-the-wall reasoning having nothing to do with the real tenets of the theory. To answer your final question, where matter came from is irrelevant to the theory of evolution. That matter existed is a given. Whether it came about by the action of God or some other unknown agency is neither here nor there as far as the theory is concerned. If you say all matter came from God, then evolution was the way He created life. No problem.

 

[Sonny Clark]

About 35% of Americans think there was a government conspiracy in 9-11. Almost the same percentage believe in man-made global warming. Is there a correlation?

What's the numbers on JFK? What about aliens and UFO's? Any numbers on those?

 

[2aguy]

will we grow gills like Kevin Kostner?

 

[whitehall]

Survey says 42% of Americans believe in ghosts. Almost the same as man made global warming. Is there a correlation?

 

[konradv]

About 35% of Americans think there was a government conspiracy in 9-11. Almost the same percentage believe in man-made global warming. Is there a correlation?

Cite? Where did you get the info that only 35% believe in AGW?

 

[konradv]

And, they forget quickly that the Earth is in constant change, and has been since the beginning. The Earth has gone through many periods of change, and will forever change. The Earth is not stable, nor will it ever be. And, if there is such a thing as "global warming", it's just more change following suit, no biggie. Besides, who knows, we might be frozen over 10,000 years from now. Did you read recently about the depth of the ice on both poles getting thicker and deeper?

That's totally untrue. No one that believes in AGW forgets that conditions have changed over time. What the deniers forget is that they're talking about changes that happened over tens of to hundreds of thousands of years. AGW theory is basically the study of what's been happening over the last 200 years, e.g. since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.