Creepshow Cruz At It Again!

[rcfieldz]

Those who denounce Cruz seem to like to bring up the story that he was born in Canada therefor not an American. My question is if his mother was a citizen of the U.S. at the time of his birth. But I havn't heard anyone ever mention this.

 

[Tom Horn]

Cruz denies any responsibility for the story.

Same as he did in Iowa and then apologized but didn't fire anybody until the next time. Give up on Trump already did ya?

 

[Pete7469]

I disagree. The wall will be built as the GOP will have control of both houses of Congress.

I don't see any way an actual wall will be built.

I do think there should be one, but first of all, I don't believe Trump will actually do it. Secondly I'm certain the EPA and other various regulatory agencies will interfere to the point that the equipment to build it will never get dispatched.

The 9/11 ground zero site in NYC was an empty hole for years thanks to government bureaucrooks, and the moonbat messiah couldn't even get Gitmo closed. Trump and the congress critters can pass all the laws and orders they want, but if the people on the ground drag their feet or get stiffled by upteen thousands of court orders, guess what?

Nothing gets done.

I'm confident that nothing will get done on the border wall. It does need to be done no doubt, but the only thing we can actually count on is a president who will make sure the current laws are enforced. That alone will make the difference.

 

[eagle1462010]

Fact Checking The Latest Cruz Super PAC Tax Ad In Florida

If that was the end of it, that would be a fantastic tax cut for people. But it’s not.

“His 16% business flat tax will promote growth in the economy.”

Here’s where Cruz hides the ball. First, his “business flat tax” is actually a subtraction method VAT (value added tax). It doesn’t matter how many times it’s denied by the candidate and his supporters–no serious tax expert of any partisan or ideological stripe says it’s not a VAT.

Because it’s a VAT, wages are not deductible from the business tax base, as they are under the corporate income tax this plan displaces. What that means is that wages are taxed twice under the Cruz plan. First, they are taxed by the VAT. Then, they are taxed again on the personal level. .

Bullshit. Show in HIS DOCUMENTATION FOR HIS PROPOSAL where he would have a VAT on personal income or payroll taxes (FICA).

It is a consumption tax, which is taxed at every stage of production ending with16% of end product. Each step get credit for taxes paid at levels below them. They add that as part of the cost and pass it forward..............which is why it is considered a Hidden Tax.

It's not an income or payroll tax. IT IS A CONSUMPTION TAX.

 

[sarahgop]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Cruz wont roll anything back. same people back him that back bush , rubio, and clinton.

 

[eagle1462010]

Beware the Value-Added Tax

A VAT is levied on the “value added” to goods and services as they pass through each stage of the production process. There are two ways to impose a VAT, and both require businesses of all types to serve as tax collectors. The most common form, the credit-invoice VAT, operates somewhat like a sales tax. As explained by the Congressional Budget Office:

[The credit-invoice VAT] is typically administered by taxing the total value of sales of all businesses, but allowing businesses to claim a credit for taxes paid on their purchases of raw materials, intermediate materials, and capital goods from other businesses.[1]

By imposing a tax on receipts but then allowing a credit for VAT taxes collected at earlier stages of production, the credit-invoice VAT taxes the “value added” by each business. The total tax, regardless of the stage of production at which it was collected, ends up being added to the final sales price.

No matter how many steps there are in the production process, a fixed percent of the final price of the product would represent the value-added tax, just as a retail sales tax is a fixed percent of the final product price. However, unlike a sales tax, the cost of the VAT to consumers would be hidden. Unless politicians took the unlikely step of requiring retailers to state explicitly the portion of the sales price that is due to the VAT, consumers would be unaware of the tax.[2]

The other approach is the subtraction-method VAT. Businesses pay a tax on their annual receipts, but only after first deducting the money that they spent on new investments and purchases of inputs. This sounds like the corporate income tax, but there are some very important differences. The subtraction-method VAT does not allow businesses to deduct the cost of employing workers. It does, however, allow businesses to fully deduct (or expense) the cost of new investments.

The credit-invoice VAT and subtraction-method VAT are both consumption-based tax systems, which is a fancy way of saying that they do not double-tax savings and investment. In this regard, both types of VAT have the same tax base as the flat tax and national retail sales tax. All of these systems tax labor and capital income, but only one time—unlike the current personal and corporate tax systems, which are riddled with different forms of double-taxation. The flat tax is levied one time—at one low rate—when income is earned, while the VAT and national retail sales tax are levied one time—at one low rate— when income is spent.[3]

The Simple Flat Tax Plan Summary | Cruz for President

BUSINESS FLAT TAX – SINGLE RATE: 16%

The corporate income tax along with the payroll tax are abolished, replaced by a 16% Business Flat Tax.

• The current corporate tax code is riddled with years of accumulated loopholes and special favors, burdening U.S. businesses with the highest top tax rate among the advanced nations. This convoluted and anti-competitive structure will be replaced with a simple 16% tax on net business sales (gross sales minus expenses and capital expenditures).
• The current payroll tax discourages work and job creation. The vast majority of Americans pay more in payroll tax than in income tax. The Simple Flat Tax will eliminate the payroll tax, boosting jobs and wages for working Americans, while guaranteeing funding for Social Security and Medicare.

 

[ptbw forever]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Cruz wont roll anything back. same people back him that back bush , rubio, and clinton.

Unfortunately that is now true.

It wasn't in the beginning though.

 

[JimBowie1958]

It is a consumption tax, which is taxed at every stage of production ending with16% of end product. Each step get credit for taxes paid at levels below them. They add that as part of the cost and pass it forward..............which is why it is considered a Hidden Tax.

It's not an income or payroll tax. IT IS A CONSUMPTION TAX.

The BUSINESS TAX is a VAT, but not the income tax that individuals pay. and FICA will not be affected.

 

[JimBowie1958]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Cruz wont roll anything back. same people back him that back bush , rubio, and clinton.

That is contrary to what I am reading. Mich McConnell and the Congressional GOP establishment loathe Ted Cruz.

Who is backing both Cruz and Rubio?

 

[Staidhup]

The VAT is a nontransparent tax that provides for increases and additional uncontrolled government spending. The proposal to adopt a VAT style tax and claim future income tax rates will not be reestablished and raised is pure crap. Not one country with a VAT decreased or abolished personal income taxes. Trump on the other hand will do and amount to nothing. Mitch and company hate being reminded of how worthless the Rino platform is which is why Cruz and Trump are dominating the primary season.

 

[eagle1462010]

It is a consumption tax, which is taxed at every stage of production ending with16% of end product. Each step get credit for taxes paid at levels below them. They add that as part of the cost and pass it forward..............which is why it is considered a Hidden Tax.

It's not an income or payroll tax. IT IS A CONSUMPTION TAX.

The BUSINESS TAX is a VAT, but not the income tax that individuals pay. and FICA will not be affected.

Make no mistake about it. The Business Tax is nothing more than a smokescreen for a VAT. His plan is absolutely a consumption tax at 16%. It will apply to anything you purchase AND and SERVICE RENDERED.

 

[jon_berzerk]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Cruz wont roll anything back. same people back him that back bush , rubio, and clinton.

exactly cruz is just another variation of the establishment

Mitch McConnell's attorney set up a super pac for him even

 

[JimBowie1958]

It is a consumption tax, which is taxed at every stage of production ending with16% of end product. Each step get credit for taxes paid at levels below them. They add that as part of the cost and pass it forward..............which is why it is considered a Hidden Tax.

It's not an income or payroll tax. IT IS A CONSUMPTION TAX.

The BUSINESS TAX is a VAT, but not the income tax that individuals pay. and FICA will not be affected.

Make no mistake about it. The Business Tax is nothing more than a smokescreen for a VAT. His plan is absolutely a consumption tax at 16%. It will apply to anything you purchase AND and SERVICE RENDERED.

It applies only to businesses as a BUSINESS TAX. It will not apply as an INCOME TAX. IF you are a contractor, businesses already pay a tax for your services.

 

[eagle1462010]

It is a consumption tax, which is taxed at every stage of production ending with16% of end product. Each step get credit for taxes paid at levels below them. They add that as part of the cost and pass it forward..............which is why it is considered a Hidden Tax.

It's not an income or payroll tax. IT IS A CONSUMPTION TAX.

The BUSINESS TAX is a VAT, but not the income tax that individuals pay. and FICA will not be affected.

Make no mistake about it. The Business Tax is nothing more than a smokescreen for a VAT. His plan is absolutely a consumption tax at 16%. It will apply to anything you purchase AND and SERVICE RENDERED.

It applies only to businesses as a BUSINESS TAX. It will not apply as an INCOME TAX. IF you are a contractor, businesses already pay a tax for your services.

Never said it was an income tax. The tax gets passed on up the food chain to the final product price for what the consumer pays for the product..........aka VAT.............CONSUMPTION TAX.