Cuts to SS and Medicare

[kyzr]

* Restructure Federal debt
* Legislate new budgeting and cash-flow priorities - people come first - current operational needs come second - anything left over can go against the debt
* Divert savings on interest to the Old Age Pension and Old Age Healthcare aspects of the Social Security and MediCare programs
* Eliminate all foreign aid except for strategically necessary military aid (like Ukraine)
* Eliminate as many Federal agencies as practicable
* Slash the Federal workforce
* Convert all old-style Federal civilian pensions to new-style Federal civilian pensions
* Slash Federal grant programs
* Massive overhaul of Federal military R&D, purchasing-acquisition and logistics programs; less focus on hyper-bleeding-edge; more focus on good, solid and sustainable
* Massive overhaul of the VA
* Slash Social Security Disability and Supplemental Income and Medicaid (ObumbleCare) programs; keep 'em running but shift to stringent vetting and periodic reviews
* Take another look at overseas military bases; fewer per global region if possible; close any found to be redundant or near-redundant (scope-creep since last round?)
* Eliminate as many Federal grant programs as possible (and there are tons of low-value programs that we just can't afford nowadays)
* Small V(alue) A(dded) T(ax) nationwide to be used only for (a) bolstering Social Security and Medicaid and (b) reducing the Federal debt; split 50/50 or 60/40 or something

.....or some-such thing... it'll never happen (because politicians think paying interest on the debt is more important than their own people) but it would be a start.

YES!! Those are the types of major Federal budget savings that I was suggesting by recommending a new "Grace Commission".

 

[Mac-7]

LOL!! You must be from Baltimore!! No one knows math in Baltimore. SHOW YOUR MATH!!

The 2022 Federal Budget is $6.272T

2022 United States federal budget - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1% of $6.272T is $0.0627T so the deficit is $1.375T minus $0.06T is still $1.31T dumbass. Your 1% cut is NOT even noticeable.

We need serious revenue and serious spending cuts to get back to sanity. A 1% cut is NOT it.

Ok have it your way

At $6T we would reach $1T in reduction even faster

 

[kyzr]

Ok have it your way
At $6T we would reach $1T in reduction even faster

SHOW THE MATH. OR ARE YOU TOO STUPID?

 

[wamose]

It's not a matter of if we need to cut or not. It's a matter of how much. If SS goes bankrupt, it will serve nobody. The big spenders in our government, Democrats and neocons, really need to pull their heads out of their asses and come back to reality.

 

[Mac-7]

SHOW THE MATH. OR ARE YOU TOO STUPID?

The size of the budget - whether $3T or $6T - does not matter.

A freeze on current spending combined with a 1% reduction each year is the only practical way to go

Your idea will fail miserably due to partisan bickering

 

[Aldo Raine]

You are just trolling now without making any sense

Facts are trolling to MAGAGATARDS now, I get it!

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They don't feel like Marist and socialist isn't a name for them, it's dictatorship. The republicans want us to be like them, Chistian's, but they have no idea what it entails.

You do know that Christians(not Chistians) are very forgiving, charitable with their own money, and willing to help others. Marxist(not Marists) murder other people, are charitable with other people's money and only think of themselves, like Nancy Piglosi while she eats her 100 icecream, Gavin Moonbeam who tells everyone else they must stay indoors and wear a mask, while he is eating 500 dollar meals with his buddies in a fancy restaurant without masking up. Stupid fucks like you, just go right along with the Fascists, because they tell you they are like you.

 

[CowboyTed]

You forgot the old senile fool you voted for for president.

KILL THE UNVAXXED!

Have you any proof of that?

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to act seriously..

 

[Lisa558]

* Restructure Federal debt
* Legislate new budgeting and cash-flow priorities - people come first - current operational needs come second - anything left over can go against the debt
* Divert savings on interest to the Old Age Pension and Old Age Healthcare aspects of the Social Security and MediCare programs
* Eliminate all foreign aid except for strategically necessary military aid (like Ukraine)
* Eliminate as many Federal agencies as practicable
* Slash the Federal workforce
* Convert all old-style Federal civilian pensions to new-style Federal civilian pensions
* Slash Federal grant programs
* Massive overhaul of Federal military R&D, purchasing-acquisition and logistics programs; less focus on hyper-bleeding-edge; more focus on good, solid and sustainable
* Massive overhaul of the VA
* Slash Social Security Disability and Supplemental Income and Medicaid (ObumbleCare) programs; keep 'em running but shift to stringent vetting and periodic reviews
* Take another look at overseas military bases; fewer per global region if possible; close any found to be redundant or near-redundant (scope-creep since last round?)
* Eliminate as many Federal grant programs as possible (and there are tons of low-value programs that we just can't afford nowadays)
* Small V(alue) A(dded) T(ax) nationwide to be used only for (a) bolstering Social Security and Medicaid and (b) reducing the Federal debt; split 50/50 or 60/40 or something

.....or some-such thing... it'll never happen (because politicians think paying interest on the debt is more important than their own people) but it would be a start.

Please run for office!!

 

[Mac-7]

Facts are trolling to MAGAGATARDS now, I get it!

You are just ranting and hurling childish insults

 

[kyzr]

The size of the budget - whether $3T or $6T - does not matter.
A freeze on current spending combined with a 1% reduction each year is the only practical way to go
Your idea will fail miserably due to partisan bickering

Your math fails miserably. Most of the Budget is MANDATORY SPENDING. Can't be cut, duh.
The debt explodes and the US economy collapses.

 

[Lisa558]

We could fire half the federal workforce, and make the remaining half work a full week. This work-from-home nonsense is a scam.

I live right outside DC, and you would think a weekday around here is a weekend. In the summer, they’re at the golf course….hogging the good chairs around the community pool….taking up slots at the tennis courts….at the grocery store….and this is all on a Tuesday at 2 pm!

 

[Mac-7]

Budget is MANDATORY SPENDING. Can't be cut, duh.

As I keep telling you thats just an act of congress and can be changed by the next congress

 

[struth]

Rick Scott​

“All federal legislation sunsets in 5 years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” the document said.

This would require Congress to renew Social Security and Medicare every five years. Scott’s proposal also called for a yearly report from Congress “telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt.”

Mike Pence​

Former Vice President Mike Pence, who has indicated that he is considering a bid for the presidency in 2024, said last week that a conversation needs to be had about reforming Social Security.

Mike Lee​

When Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) initially ran for Senate in 2010, he called for the complete elimination of Social Security.

“It will be my objective to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it,” Lee said at a campaign event in 2010, adding, “There’s going to be growing pains associated with doing this. We can’t do it all at once.”

Ron Johnson​

Similar to Scott, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) has suggested that Congress regularly renew the entitlement programs. However, Johnson has proposed that it be done on an annual basis.

“I’ve been saying for as long as I’ve been here that we should transfer everything, put everything on budget so we have to consider it if every year. I’ve said that consistently, it’s nothing new,” Johnson told “The Regular Joe Show” podcast last August.

Lindsey Graham​

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) suggested in a debate in June that a bipartisan compromise on the issue will likely mean that “people like me are going to have to take a little less and pay a little more in.”

What Republicans have actually said about cuts to Social Security and Medicare

President Biden drew a raucous response from Republicans during his State of the Union address on Tuesday night when he said some GOP lawmakers want to cut Social Security and Medicare. “Anybody wh…

thehill.com

Sunset and people like me are going to take less. Believe me, when they take the Senate and the House majority (if they do), they can do anything they want with SS and Original Medicare.

good to hear people discussing reforming these unsubstainable programs.

 

[Aldo Raine]

You are just ranting and hurling childish insults

Why not you are throwing lying rants blaming shutdowns on libs only when most states were controlled by CONS at that time. Strange isn't it. So once again why did they cower so when they were the ones in control spanky?

 

[kyzr]

As I keep telling you thats just an act of congress and can be changed by the next congress

Its called MANDATORY for a reason. YOU CAN"T FUCKING CUT IT!!

2021 Mandatory Spending
Social Security $1,115b CAN'T TOUCH, needs to be fixed.
Medicare 746b CAN'T TOUCH. needs to be fixed.
Medicaid 452b
Other 660b
Interest on Debt 379b CAN'T TOUCH, its actually growing too fast (see below)
Total $3.39T

By 2025, U.S. Interest Payments on the National Debt Will Pass the Defense Budget

With the gross national debt in excess of $22 trillion—nearly 105% of gross domestic product—and mandatory spending like interest on previous debt, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid consuming 72% of current tax revenue, it’s easy to think that America’s fiscal woes have reached their worst...

nationalinterest.org

By 2025, U.S. Interest Payments on the National Debt Will Pass the Defense Budget​

 

[gipper]

Have you any proof of that?

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to act seriously..

Proof that Old Joe has advocated for cutting social programs??? Is that your question? If so, you will have to come to terms with your ignorance. He’s publicly stated as much multiple times and I’ve posted proof several times.

 

[CowboyTed]

He isn't senile. Taking that into account, the death rate for unvaccinated people remains significantly higher than it is for vaccinated and for boosted, once those figures are adjusted for age.

Fact check: Are more vaccinated people now dying of COVID-19 than unvaccinated?

It’s easy to misinterpret a new chart making the rounds on social media. Here’s what it actually shows.

www.cbs17.com

Vaccine opponents have latched onto the chart as evidence that the shots don’t work.

There you go bringing up facts...

 

[Flash]

Rick Scott​

“All federal legislation sunsets in 5 years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” the document said.

This would require Congress to renew Social Security and Medicare every five years. Scott’s proposal also called for a yearly report from Congress “telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt.”

Mike Pence​

Former Vice President Mike Pence, who has indicated that he is considering a bid for the presidency in 2024, said last week that a conversation needs to be had about reforming Social Security.

Mike Lee​

When Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) initially ran for Senate in 2010, he called for the complete elimination of Social Security.

“It will be my objective to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it,” Lee said at a campaign event in 2010, adding, “There’s going to be growing pains associated with doing this. We can’t do it all at once.”

Ron Johnson​

Similar to Scott, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) has suggested that Congress regularly renew the entitlement programs. However, Johnson has proposed that it be done on an annual basis.

“I’ve been saying for as long as I’ve been here that we should transfer everything, put everything on budget so we have to consider it if every year. I’ve said that consistently, it’s nothing new,” Johnson told “The Regular Joe Show” podcast last August.

Lindsey Graham​

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) suggested in a debate in June that a bipartisan compromise on the issue will likely mean that “people like me are going to have to take a little less and pay a little more in.”

What Republicans have actually said about cuts to Social Security and Medicare

President Biden drew a raucous response from Republicans during his State of the Union address on Tuesday night when he said some GOP lawmakers want to cut Social Security and Medicare. “Anybody wh…

thehill.com

Sunset and people like me are going to take less. Believe me, when they take the Senate and the House majority (if they do), they can do anything they want with SS and Original Medicare.

Social Security and Medicare need to go away. However, it won't be so you can stop worrying your little Moon Bat head.

 

[struth]

Why not you are throwing lying rants blaming shutdowns on libs only when most states were controlled by CONS at that time. Strange isn't it. So once again why did they cower so when they were the ones in control spanky?

California

2020-03-19[489]

2021-06-15[490]

453

110

State

Connecticut

2020- T03-23[491]

2020-04-22[492]

30

30

State

Illinois

2020-03-21[493]

2020-05-30[494]

70

70

Kansas City in Kansas

2020-03-24[495]

2020-04-19[496]

26

26

City

Massachusetts

2020-03-24[497]

2020-05-04[497]

41

41

State

Michigan

2020-03-24[498]

2020-04-13[492]

20

20

New York

2020-03-22[499]

2020-06-13[500]

83

83

Oregon

2020-03-24[501]

2020-05-15[502]

53

53

Wisconsin

2020-03-24[503]

2020-05-13[504]

50

Those are thge states that went to full lockdowns, notice they are all dems. Yes, they are the ones to blame