D-Day, 75 Years Later

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How did your heroic capitalists fare at Stalingrad?
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About as well as Trump in Vietnam?



There were no capitalists in Stalingrad, dunce.


Only a pair of totalitarians.


Roosevelt couldn't decide who he liked more....finally chose Koba.


Hanson Baldwin, military critic of the New York Times, declares in his book, "Great Mistakes of the War:

" 'There is no doubt whatsoever that it would have been to the interest of Britain, the United States, and the world to have allowed and indeed to have encouraged-the world's two great dictatorships to fight each other to a frazzle.'
Baldwin writes that the United States put itself "in the role-at times a disgraceful role-of fearful suppliant and propitiating ally, anxious at nearly any cost to keep Russia fighting. In retrospect, how stupid!"




BTW....it was Bill 'the rapist' Clinton who claimed he despised the military when he dodged Vietnam.


You know less than nothing, huh?
There were no capitalists in Stalingrad, dunce.


Only a pair of totalitarians.


Roosevelt couldn't decide who he liked more....finally chose Koba
Capitalists ruled in Germany, and they had no shortage of conservative American fascist helpers:
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"George Herbert (Bert) Walker’s relationship with Averell Harriman went back to 1919, reported Buchanan, when both went to Paris to set up 'the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.'

"Other corporate entities, all with ties to similar German interests, were then created by UBC, which had Prescott Bush on its board – most notably, the Hamburg-American Line, the Holland-American Trading Corporation, and the Seamless Steel Corporation.

"On October 12, 1920, the St. Louis Globe-Democrat headlined “Ex-St. Louisan Forms Giant Ship Merger,” explaining that Bert Walker was the 'moving power' behind the 'merger of two big financial houses in New York, which will place practically unlimited capital at the disposal of the new American-German shipping combine.'

"In the summer and fall of 1942, Congress, under the authority of the Trading With the Enemy Act, seized the first group of entities, the UBC, the Holland-American Trading Corporation, and the Hamburg-American Line.

"Buchanan’s diligence has discovered that the latter “reportedly smuggled Nazi spies into the U.S. before the war and encouraged U.S. ‘Patriots’ to travel to Germany and proselytize for Hitler in the early 1930s.'"

Scumbag capitalists will always collaborate with fascists; it's how they grow their fortunes.



No, socialists ruled Germany.

Luckily for you, you know where to slither in for an education.


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.




5. De facto government ownership of the means of production... was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State." Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman




Socialists....Nazis....Liberals....Progressives.....Communists.

Peas of the same pod.




Now....slither away, dolt.
You and Trump would have been sterling Nazis.

Nazism - Wikipedia


"National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar aims.

"Nazism is a form of fascism and showed that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, but also incorporated fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed.

"Its extreme nationalism came from Pan-Germanism and the Völkisch movement prominent in the German nationalism of the time, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's 'cult of violence' which was 'at the heart of the movement.'"

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It was not capitalism in any sense.

Try reading Hegel.

The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest” (Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).



Then, Marx.

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.





"... the government disclaimed any desire to own the means of production, ..."

Horsefeathers.
My reply to your first post about Germany being socialist was "Yes and No". Yes it was socialist but only when it served Hitler's goals. Hitler certainly embraced socialism which he credited with his rise to power.

Hitler's version of socialism would have made Karl Marx rollover in his grave. While he praised socialist principals he also praised the entrepreneurial spirit of true Germans. Only a few years after Hitler delivered one his most impassioned speeches praising Marx, the Nazis began their book burning and the first to be burned was the works of Karl Marx in 1933. Within a few years, "Das Kapital" could not be found in a single book store or library in German. There simply was too many discrepancies between Hitler's socialism and that of Marx. Trade Unions were key to Hitler's rise to power but within ten years he had effective destroyed them. In 1934, the growing debt of goverment was his biggest economic problem. So he turned to very people he promised to destroy, the bankers and industrialist. They secured the loans which effectively saved the Reich but in return, he started a plan of de-nationalizing. He nullify the power of trade unions to satisfy the industrialists. Although short lived, Nazi capitalism was born. However, by 1938, Hitler had nationalized almost all the major industries in the country. However, he did not seize ownership of all these industries, he promised the industrialist huge rewards when war was won, and he kept his promise of private ownership for individuals and small businesses provide they were not Jewish or Communist. Socialism in German and the USSR were vastly different. However they were very similar in one respect. Both the Communist and the Nazis used socialism as a guise to build a totalitarian state.
https://www.nber.org/chapters/c9476.pdf
Karl Marx - Wikipedia


You're wrong, for the simple reason that you demand a clear and straight line between the views, or you deny the facts that all collectivist schemes demand the very same outcome.
What you miss is that one becomes the other incrementally.

The increments are accomplished by regulation and statute.


"Socialists like Bernie Sanders rarely call for full-blown government ownership of the means of production. They call for policies that amount to government management of the means of production. Such policies calling for extensive federal intervention into local affairs stand in direct violation of the limits placed on federal power by the U.S. Constitution. Yet, when people express concern about the dangers of a centrally planned economy, Sanders tries to assuage such fears by saying, “The government, in a democratic society, is the people.”
Falling in Love With Socialism


Wise up.


Further....the greatest threat that Trump is to the Establishment, the collectivist establishment, is that he removes their latter to wealth.
They put in regulations so that industry has to hire lobbyists to bribe them to write loopholes.

"Trump Attack on Regulation
Starts To Win Admiration
Both At Home and Abroad"
Trump Attack on Regulation Starts To Win Admiration Both At Home and Abroad - The New York Sun




Every notice how many Congressmen leave government far richer than when they went in?



"Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal"
Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal



....hence poor men come to Washington to do good, and leave as millionaires, having made good.

Trump is a threat to their sinecures.
"Socialists like Bernie Sanders rarely call for full-blown government ownership of the means of production. They call for policies that amount to government management of the means of production. Such policies calling for extensive federal intervention into local affairs stand in direct violation of the limits placed on federal power by the U.S. Constitution.
What limits does the US Constitution place on corporations?

Bernie's calling for worker self directed enterprises which will bring democracy to the workplace, i.e., the place where adults spent half their waking hours:

Bernie Sanders: Workers should control the means of production


"One Sanders plan would create 'worker wealth funds' which corporations would be required to contribute into, and which would both pay dividends to the workers and buy shares in those firms to give workers ultimate voting control. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., another contender, is considering a similar idea.

"Sanders’ proposal for worker ownership is a new iteration of a plans put forward decades ago by Swedish trade union economist Rudolf Meidner, who envisioned a gradual socialization of industry by requiring owners to dedicate a percentage of yearly profits into union-owned 'wage-earner funds' that would be used to buy shares in the company.

"Over time, the employees’ funds would buy up more and more of the company until eventually workers controlled a majority stake or even everything.

"The plan, though pursued by the Social Democratic Party, was never fully realized in Sweden."



"Bernie Sanders: Workers should control the means of production


"One Sanders plan would create 'worker wealth funds' which corporations would be required to contribute into, and which would both pay dividends to the workers and buy shares in those firms to give workers ultimate voting control. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., another contender, is considering a similar idea.

"Sanders’ proposal for worker ownership is a new iteration of a plans put forward decades ago by Swedish trade union economist Rudolf Meidner, who envisioned a gradual socialization of industry by requiring owners to dedicate a percentage of yearly profits into union-owned 'wage-earner funds' that would be used to buy shares in the company.

"Over time, the employees’ funds would buy up more and more of the company until eventually workers controlled a majority stake or even everything.

"The plan, though pursued by the Social Democratic Party, was never fully realized in Sweden."




Already done by the American capitalist system:


"Wal-Mart matches employee stock purchases by 15% on the first $1,800 worth of shares bought each year. If you work at the company and write a check to buy $1,800 worth of the stock, the company is going to give you another $270 to buy shares completely free. That results in an automatic 15% return before you’ve collected your first dividend. On top of that, the company matches 100% on the first 6% of salary contributed to a 401(k) plan.


.....they’d retire with nearly $4.9 million in their investment account at average long-term rates of return. If inflation runs the same rate it did during the past century, that would be around $1.7 million in today’s dollars, which would generate $5,700 per month pre-tax without every touching the principal."
A Married Couple Working for Walmart Could Retire and Live Very Comfortably




In your face, booooooyyyyyyeeeeeeee!!!!
Wal-Mart matches employee stock purchases by 15% on the first $1,800 worth of shares bought each year. If you work at the company and write a check to buy $1,800 worth of the stock, the company is going to give you another $270 to buy shares completely free
Since the average Wal-Mart employee requires food stamps and other forms of welfare to compensate for their low wages, where does said employee acquire $150 every month to buy stock?
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Let's check.


1. "If WalMart Jobs Are So Terrible, Then Why Do So Many People Want One?

2. If we listen to some of the activists on the WalMart issue then we’re told that the jobs at the store are just terrible. The pay, the conditions are appalling, which leaves us with the mysterious question of why do so many people seem to want a job at WalMart?

3. There’s a lot of rhetoric, especially from the left, that is very dismissive of working at Walmart. Go the Wikipedia entry for “Criticism of Walmart” and you’ll find references to the following criticisms of being a Walmart employee:

4.... low wages, poor working conditions, being forced to work off the clock, being denied overtime pay, not being allowed to take breaks, violations of child labor laws, instances of minors working too late, during school hours, or for too many hours in a day, labor racketeering crimes, sexual discrimination, limiting or eliminating health care benefits, poorly-run and understaffed stores, etc.



5. – it must be a pretty terrible place to work, right? But then why do so many people actually want to work for the retail giant, based on the huge number of applications that Walmart receives every time it opens a new store?

6. ... the new Washington D.C. stores received 23,000 applications for only 600 positions.

That’s a multiple of the number of applications there are for each and every place at Harvard.

So, if the jobs are so terrible then why is it that so many people want to have one of these terrible jobs?





7. ... WalMart jobs are better than one or all of those alternatives. This is revealed preferences in action: that people apply for the jobs means that they want them.






8. [It's an economic fact:] those offering the best opportunities and working conditions will get the workers and those offering bad conditions and/or pay will find that they have to improve them in order to retain their workforce.

9. ... what is the current constraint on people setting up in business....the bureaucratic nonsense that surrounds gaining all of the necessary permits and licenses discourages many would-be entrepreneurs from even starting.

10. Reduce that regulatory burden and we’ll see more new businesses starting and thus, through the above process, conditions will get better for all workers."
If WalMart Jobs Are So Terrible, Then Why Do So Many People Want One? - Forbes






Best line in the article:
That’s a multiple of the number of applications there are for each and every place at Harvard.
 

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