DACA was not a law.

[Siete]

DACA doesn't make Dreamers LEGAL, it just doesn't define them as "illegal" ...


RW mindfuk ...

 

[Doc1]

DACA was not a law.
It was just another one of Racist Barry the Magnificent’s shady, unconstitutional, illegal policies.
Obama panders to the racist/bigot La Raza, LULAC and Aztlan Nationalist who hate Anglos and who refuse to accept that America is a sovereign country with immigration laws.

You stupid white mf....Obama temporarily gave sancturary to the children of illegals....he left it up to that worthless pile of shit GOP congress to create legislation allowing DACA to become law....listen, if your gonna come here time and time again to lie, do us all a favor, DON'T...it really makes you look like the white trash you really are, dumb bitch!!

Are you one of those "scary" black tough guys?

 

[jc456]

The governor has no self esteem.

 

[jc456]

DACA was not a law.
It was just another one of Racist Barry the Magnificent’s shady, unconstitutional, illegal policies.
Obama panders to the racist/bigot La Raza, LULAC and Aztlan Nationalist who hate Anglos and who refuse to accept that America is a sovereign country with immigration laws.

You stupid white mf....Obama temporarily gave sancturary to the children of illegals....he left it up to that worthless pile of shit GOP congress to create legislation allowing DACA to become law....listen, if your gonna come here time and time again to lie, do us all a favor, DON'T...it really makes you look like the white trash you really are, dumb bitch!!

Are you one of those "scary" black tough guys?

he has a tiger in his tank.

 

[kwc57]

DACA doesn't make Dreamers LEGAL, it just doesn't define them as "illegal" ...


RW mindfuk ...

That's kind of like defining a turd as a Baby Ruth bar. It's still a turd no matter what you call it.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

If I were Trump I would kill a bunch of birds with one stone. I would revoke the EO and threaten to start deportation if they don't repeal Obamacare and any wouldn't sign any new immigration bill until the repeal us signed.

 

[jillian]

DACA was not a law.
It was just another one of Racist Barry the Magnificent’s shady, unconstitutional, illegal policies.
Obama panders to the racist/bigot La Raza, LULAC and Aztlan Nationalist who hate Anglos and who refuse to accept that America is a sovereign country with immigration laws.

you really should probably get an education. I almost feel bad for the ignorance you spew....

but not really... because you're too vile to feel sorry for....

now read and learn little ijit.....

"executive orders and proclamations have the force of law, much like regulations issued by federal agencies, so they are codified under Title 3 of the Code of Federal Regulations, which is the formal collection of all of the rules and regulations issued by the executive branch and other federal agencies"

What is an Executive Order?

they have the full force of law....even when signed by the black guy, you lowlife Obama deranged loon.

 

[jillian]

DACA doesn't make Dreamers LEGAL, it just doesn't define them as "illegal" ...


RW mindfuk ...

That's kind of like defining a turd as a Baby Ruth bar. It's still a turd no matter what you call it.

in other words, you're too stupid to understand what he said.

 

[Little-Acorn]

DACA was not a law.

Generations ago, Congress passed our immigration laws, and the President at the time signed them into law. They said that any foreign national who comes into the country without a visa, should be deported. The law made no exception for very young children.

DACA is a program created by Executive Order by Barack Obama. In doing so, he simply ignored the law. And then violated it. Is this what Presidents should do?

If Obama's heart told him it was bad to deport someone who had been brought into the country illegally by his parents when he was maybe 1 or two years old... why didn't Obama go to Congress (then fully controlled by Democrats), get them to pass a bill changing the immigration laws to allow grown adults who were brought in as young children to stay? Why did he take it upon himself to violate his own oath of office and break the laws passed by Congress instead? If this idea was as popular as the liberals say it is, there should have been no problem getting Congress to change the law... should there?

The reason is, because most Americans didn't want the law changed. And the Congressmen knew they might lose their next election if they changed the law that way, that's why.

Congress has had plenty of time - decades - to change the law. And they have deliberately kept it unchanged.

If your heart says that's not right... have YOU tried to get Congress to change the law? Or are you pretty sure you'd never succeed... because most American people don't want the law changed?

The American way is to have laws passed by our Representatives and signed by the President... and to have them changed by those representatives and signed into different form by the President. And to OBEY them until they are changed.

People who don't want to follow that pattern, should maybe find a different country where they don't do that. Until they do, no, they shouldn't just start letting illegal aliens who were brought here as kids, stay. That would violate the law - a law that America clearly doesn't want changed. Only a small but vocal minority want it differently.

Some anti-Americans would love to see our highest elected officials violate refuse to do their jobs and start violating American law instead. It would be the first step toward tearing down any American law they feel like, and transforming the country into something the American people don't want.

And those anti-Americans know that their best chance of success is to get Americans to say, "Where is your heart?" ....and carefully ignore the more important question, "Do we want our elected officials to obey and enforce the law we made our representatives pass... or not?"

 

[g5000]

DACA doesn't make Dreamers LEGAL, it just doesn't define them as "illegal" ...


RW mindfuk ...

That's kind of like defining a turd as a Baby Ruth bar. It's still a turd no matter what you call it.

No, the law determines an immigrant's standing.

We can make all immigration illegal if we so desired. However, we have laws which separate the legal from the illegal immigrant.

DACA did not define these kids as legal. It merely exercised the principle of prosecutorial discretion.

 

[g5000]

If Obama's heart told him it was bad to deport someone who had been brought into the country illegally by his parents when he was maybe 1 or two years old... why didn't Obama go to Congress (then fully controlled by Democrats), get them to pass a bill changing the immigration laws to allow grown adults who were brought in as young children to stay?

He did, goldfish. But the GOP has filibustered it. Repeatedly.

DREAM Act dies in Senate

 

[g5000]

The first DREAM Act was introduced by a Republican, believe it or not. In 2001.

S.1291 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): DREAM Act

In 2010, it passed the House but was defeated by a GOP filibuster in the Senate. Five Democrats also failed to support it. If they had, it would have passed.

Another DREAM Act was introduced in 2011, and because of the Tea Party movement at the time, not a single Republican signed onto it.

The GOP of today is nothing like the GOP of days past. Today, they are cowards. Spineless. Chickenshits.

That's how a New York Democrat was able to hijack the whole enchilada.

 

[Siete]

2/3rds of the RW idgets dont have a clue about DACA and the other 1/3rd is totally confused.

All they know and understand is Obama did it so its illegal and unconstitutional.

 

[g5000]

2/3rds of the RW idgets dont have a clue about DACA and the other 1/3rd is totally confused.

All they know and understand is Obama did it so its illegal and unconstitutional.

DACA most likely is illegal. We'll never know for sure.

Prosecutorial discretion is a tricky thing.

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

I think Obama's EO extending the employer mandate was more deeply on unconstitutional ground than DACA was. But then the GOP forced that crisis on purpose. Theater for the rubes.

 

[bendog]

2/3rds of the RW idgets dont have a clue about DACA and the other 1/3rd is totally confused.

All they know and understand is Obama did it so its illegal and unconstitutional.

the mantra is that every person not here legally should be deported. And the maj of Americans have never, in a poll or election, agreed.

 

[g5000]

The American people want to grant amnesty to all illegals, and to have much tougher border security at the same time.

These are not conflicting sentiments.

"You can stay, but enough is enough!"

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The first DREAM Act was introduced by a Republican, believe it or not. In 2001.

S.1291 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): DREAM Act

In 2010, it passed the House but was defeated by a GOP filibuster in the Senate. Five Democrats also failed to support it. If they had, it would have passed.

Another DREAM Act was introduced in 2011, and because of the Tea Party movement at the time, not a single Republican signed onto it.

The GOP of today is nothing like the GOP of days past. Today, they are cowards. Spineless. Chickenshits.

That's how a New York Democrat was able to hijack the whole enchilada.

And in 2017 it will once again fail. There's not a single congress member up for election next year that will vote for amnesty of any kind for anyone. They will get wiped out.

 

[bendog]

2/3rds of the RW idgets dont have a clue about DACA and the other 1/3rd is totally confused.

All they know and understand is Obama did it so its illegal and unconstitutional.

DACA most likely is illegal. We'll never know for sure.

Prosecutorial discretion is a tricky thing.

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

I think Obama's EO extending the employer mandate was more deeply on unconstitutional ground than DACA was. But then the GOP forced that crisis on purpose. Theater for the rubes.

Yeah. and imo Obama tried to essentially shame the congress which is held hostage by 40-50 House members. I agree the EO should be unconstitutional. Obama could simply have directed resources for deportation away from these folks, but he issued the EO when there was zero political capital to be gained. He did it as a matter of principle. Only a vocal minority wants these folks kicked out.

I'm sorry for them, and I don't think the congress will help them out unless Ryan grows a spine which will not happen. It's sickly comedic to see how the Orange Don has tried to play to all sides, and in the end, I think it'll bite him on his GINORMOUS ass in 20, if he's still around.

 

[bendog]

The first DREAM Act was introduced by a Republican, believe it or not. In 2001.

S.1291 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): DREAM Act

In 2010, it passed the House but was defeated by a GOP filibuster in the Senate. Five Democrats also failed to support it. If they had, it would have passed.

Another DREAM Act was introduced in 2011, and because of the Tea Party movement at the time, not a single Republican signed onto it.

The GOP of today is nothing like the GOP of days past. Today, they are cowards. Spineless. Chickenshits.

That's how a New York Democrat was able to hijack the whole enchilada.

And in 2017 it will once again fail. There's not a single congress member up for election next year that will vote for amnesty of any kind for anyone. They will get wiped out.

Heller and Gardner will vote for it. And there are many House gopers who would vote for it, but it'll never come up for a vote

 

[g5000]

The first DREAM Act was introduced by a Republican, believe it or not. In 2001.

S.1291 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): DREAM Act

In 2010, it passed the House but was defeated by a GOP filibuster in the Senate. Five Democrats also failed to support it. If they had, it would have passed.

Another DREAM Act was introduced in 2011, and because of the Tea Party movement at the time, not a single Republican signed onto it.

The GOP of today is nothing like the GOP of days past. Today, they are cowards. Spineless. Chickenshits.

That's how a New York Democrat was able to hijack the whole enchilada.

And in 2017 it will once again fail. There's not a single congress member up for election next year that will vote for amnesty of any kind for anyone. They will get wiped out.

I think there is a fairly good chance the DREAM Act will pass. The GOP will add amendments for cover to make it slightly tougher. Lowering the age limit to 30 from 35. Things like that.

The people who want these kids deported are a very tiny minority. We do have some Republicans who are utterly spineless and let this tiny minority push them around, and that's fucking pathetic.