dad files restraining order against five-year-old alleged bully

Is five years old too young of an age to be given a restraining order for bullying?

  • Yes. Bullying is a healthy rite of passage through which all children must go.

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Yes. Parents thinking about taking such actions should target Miley Cyrus instead.

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • No. Bullies need to be sent clear messages at young ages that their behavior is unacceptable.

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • No. They should throw their butts in jail, too.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All of the above.

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • I'm not sure. I blame George W. Bush.

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
Then you are raising a victim. When bullied, report it...once. If nothing is done, the next time it happens, put the fucker in the hospital! I don't mean deck him. I mean POUND him. You want a would-be bully's first though upon seeing her to be, Shit...if I try anything on this one, she might kill me!

calmly---so calmly--I asked you to tell me what to do.

Tell me.

??5 yr old around ? 35 lb? ---maybe some are more muscular ---50lbs?

can the smaller child really pound the larger child--would the smaller child be hurt more seriously.

I myself would not take on a man--smaller than me--kick him where it hurts--go for the eyes. How do you tell a child this?

think a little bit. maybe there is an answer I haven't considered?

I don't know --so I asked. with sincerity. always difficult to know the tone on message boards.

I honestly do not know. I cannot why my physical abilities 'fight' that well.

I know and know and know---all that is said. should be at a self defense class instead of ever being online--have other responsibilities and haven't found a class that I feel is relevant to my needs. I carry mace.

a 5 yr old girl would not be allowed to carry mace to school.
 
I'm sorry you cant ignore death threats no matter how young the kid is. He needs to be removed from the school now. My daughters got death threats from a protected minority, one was in first the other in second. School reacted like some here are did nothing. I went to the kids guardian and played the crazed maniac to her and him making it very clear I was willing to sit in prison for killing him if he gave me one more inkling he was serious. Hasnt bothered them since in the last ten yrs but he still is a problem for other girls and I would not be surprised to see his face on the news someday.
 
7 pages. it was clear to me on P.1--'some administrator' 'f'd' up. beginning and end.

we will never get the truth. having spent several decades in this field--I feel empowered to make a judgment. there was ''something' that could have been done. don't care to hear reasons why it wasn't done. Accountability--CNN is all over this tonight. got to have that. Buck stops here type of 'leaders'. got to have them.


everyone in this nation needs to be as upset as I am about mental health, violence and lack of quality in every phase of life. we are 'doing this' to ourselves. be focused on the very hard truth. everyone has to do that.

I had enough with my students, then my brother----whole thing---what is being discussed tonight. 'Bullying'--violence and how it must not be allowed to continue. legalities----get in the way. tighten loopholes? maybe. don't know.


I guess my little girl would have to become like Adele. don't think she is appropriate for a 5 year old --listening to 'Frozen' and dreaming about princesses.

How horrible that a child must be taught to fight for his/her life. Absolutely beyond what a society should ever allow. This society in particular. Beyond outrage at what is going on in Africa and the Ukraine, Iran---Syria. Will not 'accept' this in the US--ever.

how I feel

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw]Adele - Rolling in the Deep - YouTube[/ame]
 
Then you are raising a victim. When bullied, report it...once. If nothing is done, the next time it happens, put the fucker in the hospital! I don't mean deck him. I mean POUND him. You want a would-be bully's first though upon seeing her to be, Shit...if I try anything on this one, she might kill me!

calmly---so calmly--I asked you to tell me what to do.

Tell me.

??5 yr old around ? 35 lb? ---maybe some are more muscular ---50lbs?

can the smaller child really pound the larger child--would the smaller child be hurt more seriously.

I myself would not take on a man--smaller than me--kick him where it hurts--go for the eyes. How do you tell a child this?

think a little bit. maybe there is an answer I haven't considered?

I don't know --so I asked. with sincerity. always difficult to know the tone on message boards.

I honestly do not know. I cannot why my physical abilities 'fight' that well.

I know and know and know---all that is said. should be at a self defense class instead of ever being online--have other responsibilities and haven't found a class that I feel is relevant to my needs. I carry mace.

a 5 yr old girl would not be allowed to carry mace to school.

OK, I will be as clear as I can: I have absolutely no idea what your rambling, directionless babble is intended to mean.
 
Then you are raising a victim. When bullied, report it...once. If nothing is done, the next time it happens, put the fucker in the hospital! I don't mean deck him. I mean POUND him. You want a would-be bully's first though upon seeing her to be, Shit...if I try anything on this one, she might kill me!

calmly---so calmly--I asked you to tell me what to do.

Tell me.

??5 yr old around ? 35 lb? ---maybe some are more muscular ---50lbs?

can the smaller child really pound the larger child--would the smaller child be hurt more seriously.

I myself would not take on a man--smaller than me--kick him where it hurts--go for the eyes. How do you tell a child this?

think a little bit. maybe there is an answer I haven't considered?

I don't know --so I asked. with sincerity. always difficult to know the tone on message boards.

I honestly do not know. I cannot why my physical abilities 'fight' that well.

I know and know and know---all that is said. should be at a self defense class instead of ever being online--have other responsibilities and haven't found a class that I feel is relevant to my needs. I carry mace.

a 5 yr old girl would not be allowed to carry mace to school.

OK, I will be as clear as I can: I have absolutely no idea what your rambling, directionless babble is intended to mean.

that's reasonable. same for me--and it is a new day. try again?

if the parties involved in conflict are not of equal size--to start with.

I don't think the chances are good for the 'smaller' to be able to pound the larger.

now in this case --we have no idea of the size of the parties and many other things.

How to defend yourself in a fight---my father taught things like that to my brother. not something he covered with me --'a girl'--my mother --'no fighting'.

sigh.

As an adult woman---if I were attacked --I would 'die trying'.

What can anyone tell a child about self defense? Given the Law?

Beyond me.

We also don't know for certain that this wasn't a 'tempest in a teapot' sort of thing.

The boy could have been the smaller one--and immature. he said mean things --acted like a baby--threw 'what'?--we know what the article said--would have to know exactly what he threw--'a stick'--anything from a twig to a 5lb branch?

see--we don't really have the fyi to even try to assess this situation.

then --if the parents had been 'going back and forth'---there is that?

Teaching--I could tell you some stories.

I taught in schools where--something 'was done'----to keep the peace. If one had to be in another class--told---'If you see that person--don't speak, don't look --you must never engage that person again'---somehow that would have been done. cough. That was in a time when things like that could be done.

Times are very different now.

Sorry not to be able to be more succinct. It is too complicated.

I am about 5'3--assessing on physical size--I couldn't win many fights. Would be so terrified --stunned --it would take me a few minutes to realize I needed to react.

so--I should learn how to 'fight'. put it on the list. If those who are good at fighting want to explain---that would be great.

Once ---in a Mac Donald's a few years ago --a woman said --"I'll cut you'--pushed me to the floor--my hands full of bags--food and books. I couldn't do a thing. people held her back. diabetic--I was impatient in line --blood sugar rolling--she misunderstood what I said. I got up and drove away. Closest to a fight that I have ever come.
 
that's reasonable. same for me--and it is a new day. try again?

if the parties involved in conflict are not of equal size--to start with.

I don't think the chances are good for the 'smaller' to be able to pound the larger.

Don't fight fair. Win the fight, by ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

now in this case --we have no idea of the size of the parties and many other things.

How to defend yourself in a fight---my father taught things like that to my brother. not something he covered with me --'a girl'--my mother --'no fighting'.

sigh.

As an adult woman---if I were attacked --I would 'die trying'.

To be brutally frank, he was a fool who raised a victim.

What can anyone tell a child about self defense? Given the Law?

Beyond me.

We also don't know for certain that this wasn't a 'tempest in a teapot' sort of thing.

The boy could have been the smaller one--and immature. he said mean things --acted like a baby--threw 'what'?--we know what the article said--would have to know exactly what he threw--'a stick'--anything from a twig to a 5lb branch?

Smaller kids DO NOT BULLY LARGER KIDS. It simply does not happen.

see--we don't really have the fyi to even try to assess this situation.

then --if the parents had been 'going back and forth'---there is that?

Teaching--I could tell you some stories.

I taught in schools where--something 'was done'----to keep the peace. If one had to be in another class--told---'If you see that person--don't speak, don't look --you must never engage that person again'---somehow that would have been done. cough. That was in a time when things like that could be done.

Times are very different now.

Sorry not to be able to be more succinct. It is too complicated.

I am about 5'3--assessing on physical size--I couldn't win many fights. Would be so terrified --stunned --it would take me a few minutes to realize I needed to react.

so--I should learn how to 'fight'. put it on the list. If those who are good at fighting want to explain---that would be great.

Once ---in a Mac Donald's a few years ago --a woman said --"I'll cut you'--pushed me to the floor--my hands full of bags--food and books. I couldn't do a thing. people held her back. diabetic--I was impatient in line --blood sugar rolling--she misunderstood what I said. I got up and drove away. Closest to a fight that I have ever come.

If you cannot defend yourself physically, I suggest a pistol.
 
hmmm-there are some who would disagree with you on many of your observations.

there is one man----well --I found a weapon and then he understood---didn't have to use it --would have and he saw the fire in my eyes.

kept stalking me----foul filth--tapped my phone and then after I had my locks changed---'smart' enough to get in any way. Finally----had the sense to never contact me again---had 2 names --left a state where he owed alimony---Cleveland, Ohio. had never met such a person. Rust Belt.

I handled that myself --have handled much more. lol --'A victim'---too funny. 'Mean as snake'---a real 'B'---yup---'You must not know about me'--who said it? Beyoncé. same as her.

believe it or not.

just try.

I am right. no need for us to try to communicate further.
and fine with me for you to believe you are right.

had the best day-----went to the lake--tired and happy dog. he played and swam. and is exhausted. good to get offline and do things like that. jmo.
 
Always have the courage
To change, welcoming those voices
That call you beyond yourself.-- —John O’Donohue
#Shalem
 
hmmm-there are some who would disagree with you on many of your observations.

there is one man----well --I found a weapon and then he understood---didn't have to use it --would have and he saw the fire in my eyes.

kept stalking me----foul filth--tapped my phone and then after I had my locks changed---'smart' enough to get in any way. Finally----had the sense to never contact me again---had 2 names --left a state where he owed alimony---Cleveland, Ohio. had never met such a person. Rust Belt.

I handled that myself --have handled much more. lol --'A victim'---too funny. 'Mean as snake'---a real 'B'---yup---'You must not know about me'--who said it? Beyoncé. same as her.

believe it or not.

just try.

I am right. no need for us to try to communicate further.
and fine with me for you to believe you are right.

had the best day-----went to the lake--tired and happy dog. he played and swam. and is exhausted. good to get offline and do things like that. jmo.

I'm sorry, this is giving me a headache...does this board have a "directionless babble to English" translator?
 
hmmm-there are some who would disagree with you on many of your observations.

there is one man----well --I found a weapon and then he understood---didn't have to use it --would have and he saw the fire in my eyes.

kept stalking me----foul filth--tapped my phone and then after I had my locks changed---'smart' enough to get in any way. Finally----had the sense to never contact me again---had 2 names --left a state where he owed alimony---Cleveland, Ohio. had never met such a person. Rust Belt.

I handled that myself --have handled much more. lol --'A victim'---too funny. 'Mean as snake'---a real 'B'---yup---'You must not know about me'--who said it? Beyoncé. same as her.

believe it or not.

just try.

I am right. no need for us to try to communicate further.
and fine with me for you to believe you are right.

had the best day-----went to the lake--tired and happy dog. he played and swam. and is exhausted. good to get offline and do things like that. jmo.

I'm sorry, this is giving me a headache...does this board have a "directionless babble to English" translator?

Your posting style is certainly...unique, wavingrl.
 
hmmm-there are some who would disagree with you on many of your observations.

dog. he played and swam. and is exhausted. good to get offline and do things like that. jmo.

I'm sorry, this is giving me a headache...does this board have a "directionless babble to English" translator?

Your posting style is certainly...unique, wavingrl.

lol---I cannot tell you how many times that has been said. thank you very much.

Yes, a few decades in the teaching profession -------------


-----doing Impossible things.

After you try it--get back to me.

Every societal ill ---everything. shrug. I wanted to teach and I did.

Evaluate, assess, judge----be my guest. until you have 'all the facts'---well --the validity of your conclusions might be subject to a Higher Authority.

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'poor baby jaraxle' here's a Kleenex. how do you think I feel --the same, buddy, the same. just communicating my POV----I have a Right ---just like you. Freedom. Freedom. Freedom.

lol--'what my Daddy taught me' ---'You Are Perfect, my Treasure'.

then I listened to gasp Neal Boortz---chopped on this 's' as hard as he could. now ---all I will tell you--we agreed on a few things. Ask yourself ---How Much Would Boortz Care if I told him he was giving me a headache with his babble?

That is exactly how much I care. Exactly. so----put your thinking caps on and figure me out.

What does it take to 'teach'---I would like an essay---will grade your attempts in my own way and in my own good time.

'F' with me. Bring It ON. Go ahead. Boortz cuts people off. SOB that he is. I admired that greatly.

Step It Up----and quickly, too. Too many turtles. slow as molasses. the type of thinking or mindless chatter that goes on here. Everybody 'knows'---Say It--you have a right. What others think---some matter--some don't. get it, got it, good.

so foolish---you have a perfect right to be as much of a fool as you wish--for as long as you wish. part of the problem--never part of the solution. pitiful. /gave.
 
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Things You'll Never Hear a Teacher Say:

"Our principal is sooooooooo smart. No wonder he's in administration."
"Thank goodness for these evaluations. They keep me focused."
"I'd like to see Red Lobster offer a meal like this!"
"Here class, just put all your gym shoes in this box next to my desk."
"I bet all the people in our administration really miss teaching!"
"Gosh, the bathroom smells so fresh and clean!"
"I'm so glad I gave my phone number to my students' parents. It makes keeping in touch so much easier."
"I'm also so glad I gave my personal email address to my students' parents. In some ways, it's better than the phone.
"I can't believe I get paid for this!"
"I think the discipline around here is just a LITTLE too strict!"
"It's Friday already????"
"Those student teachers this semester really made my job a real joy."
"I believe that athletics are not getting enough money."
"We'd be able to educate our children if they let us
teach through summer too." "Have you noticed that the teachers drive better cars than the students?"
"This in-service training has been fabulous."
"It must be true; the superintendent said so!"

You Might Be in Education If . . .

You believe the staff room should be equipped with a Valium salt lick.
You find humor in other people's stupidity.
You want to slap the next person who says, "Must be nice to work from 8 to 3 and have your summers free!"
You believe chocolate is a food group.
You can tell it's a full moon without ever looking outside.
You believe "shallow gene pool" should have its own box on the report card.
You believe that unspeakable evil will befall you if anyone says, "Boy, the kids sure are mellow today."
When out in public you feel the urge to talk to strange children and correct their behavior.
You have no time for a life from August to June.
Marking all As on report cards would make your life SO much simpler.
When you mention "vegetables," you're not talking about a food group.
You think people should be required to get a government permit before being allowed to reproduce.
You wonder how some parents ever MANAGED to reproduce.
You laugh uncontrollably when people refer to the staff room as the "lounge."
You believe in aerial spraying of Prozac.
You encourage an obnoxious parent to check into charter schools or home schooling.
You believe no one should be permitted to reproduce without having taught in an elementary setting for at least 5 years.
You've ever had you profession slammed by someone who would never DREAM of doing your job.
You can't have children because there's no name you could give a child that wouldn't bring on high blood pressure the moment you heard it uttered.
You think caffeine should be available to staff in IV form.
You know you're in for a MAJOR project when a parent says, "I have a great idea I'd like to discuss. I think it would be such fun!
You smile weakly, but want to choke a person when he/she says, "Oh, you must have such FUN every day. It must be like playtime for you."
Your personal life comes to a screeching halt at report card time.
Meeting a child's parents instantly answers the question, "Why is this kid like this?"

How to Tell If You're a REAL Teacher

Real teachers grade papers in the car, during commercials, in faculty meetings, in the bathroom, and (at the end of the six weeks) have been seen grading in church.
Real teachers cheer when they hear April 1 does not fall on a school day.
Real teachers drive older cars owned by credit unions.
Real teachers clutch a pencil while thinking and make notes in the margins of books.
Real teachers can't walk past a crowd of kids without straightening up the line.
Real teachers never sit down without first checking the seat of the chair.
Real teachers have disjointed necks from writing on boards without turning their backs on the class.
Real teachers are written up in medical journals for size and elasticity of kidneys and bladders.
Real teachers have been timed gulping down a full lunch in 2 minutes, 18 seconds. Master teachers can eat faster than that.
Real teachers can predict exactly which parents will show up at Open House.
Real teachers volunteer for hall duty on days faculty meetings are scheduled.
Real teachers never teach the conjugations of lie and lay to eighth graders.
Real teachers know it is better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission.
Real teachers know the best end of semester lesson plans can come from Blockbuster.
Real teachers never take grades after Wednesday of the last week of the six weeks.
Real teachers never assign research papers on the last six weeks or essays on final exams.
Real teachers know the shortest distance and the length of travel time from their classroom to the office.
Real teachers can "sense" gum.
Real teachers know the difference among what must be graded, what ought to be graded, and what probably should never again see the light of day.
Real teachers are solely responsible for the destruction of the rain forest.
Real teachers have their best conferences in the parking lot.
Real teachers have never heard an original excuse.
Real teachers buy Excedrin and Advil at Sam's.
Real teachers will eat anything that is put in the workroom/teacher's lounge.
Real teachers never plan discussions for first period or co-operative groups for 7th during an evaluation.
Real teachers have the assistant principals' and counselors' home phone numbers.
Real teachers know secretaries and custodians run the school.
Real teachers know the rules don't really apply to them.
Real teachers hear the heartbeats of crisis; always have time to listen; know they teach students, not subjects; and they are absolutely non-expendable.
Real teachers keep reminding their students that the police department does have caller I.D.

You know you teach middle school if...

You empty your pockets at night and find

1. two used hall passes
2. one unused bus pass
3. a pencil stub
4. no money (you spent your change in the faculty room candy stash)
5. a note with a drawing of Satan and two expletives that needed deleting


You brag to your spouse about how many parent phone calls you got done today.
Your relatives refuse to attend one of your parties if "it's going to be mostly teachers" because they all talk shop.
You keep trying those techniques that were recommended by experts during the latest pendulum swing.
You walk the halls of your building and unconsciously pick up litter.
You are irritated by adults who chew gum in public.
Your spouse surreptitiously reads the paper at dinner while you describe your day.
You plan your seating chart so that the short kids can't hide behind bigger ones.
You have seen firsthand what gum wrappers and pennies can do to a floppy disk drive.
You write your name conspicuously on all personal objects, including your car keys, your masking tape, your textbook, and your chair.
You sometimes choose to pretend not to hear comments that were perfectly intelligible to everyone else who was in the room.
You know what your classroom door sounds like when slammed mightily.
You have classroom rules about where people may put their feet.
You know what the ventilation fan in your room sounds like when whirling small objects, usually folded paper or wrappers.
Your librarian cringes when you sign up your class.
You tell subtle jokes in class just to see those few smiles of the ones that catch on.
Your class gladly acknowledges that they watch Letterman and Rosie O'Donnell and MTV but tell you they haven't time to look at something by PBS during prime time.
You despise Halloween candy, Christmas candy, and Valentine candy.
Your students prefer current events stories that deal with rape, murder, electrocution, and demonic possession.
One of your students writes to Congress (on your nickel) to complain about some cigarette butts thrown into a local lake.
You still can't believe you allowed yourself to be sucked into an argument regarding whether Beanie Babies should be allowed in class.
You know at least three ways to remove objectionable doodles from textbooks so the next user will not be offended.
Your team goes out for dinner to celebrate the news that your biggest headache is moving to another district.
You clean desks yourself just to keep the place looking nice and to help your own morale.
A mother calls to chew you out because you have ignored her son's project only to learn from you that it must be the one that has sat on the chalkrail for weeks with the words "Whose? Is this yours?" written above it.
Your colleagues claim you inspected a blank student agenda in study hall and said, "Let me guess: All your teachers have been absent for the last month and a half."
 
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