Deflate-gate? Report: Patriots being investigated for using deflated footballs

[Oldstyle]

The truth of the matter is that just about every quarterback plays with the balls to get them to his liking. “Every team tampers with the footballs,” Matt Leinart said on Twitter. “Ask any Qb In the league, this is ridiculous!!”
But it's the Patriots...so people like Alex have their panties in a bunch!

 

[ChrisL]

Which brings us back to a game where you have officials handling balls on virtually every single play of the game and none of THEM senses anything wrong with the Patriot's footballs! How is that possible? Is the officiating crew secretly all New England fans who were on the take?

That's what some people think. They think the entire Patriots organization is involved. I wonder if they realize just how many people are on the sidelines during a game and how difficult it would be to pull this off, regardless of what they claim. We certainly know that Bill or Tom Brady are NOT on the sidelines deflating balls during games! That is retarded as all hell!

 

[Oldstyle]

The Patriots coaching staff throws the Ravens a curve ball with a "tackle eligible" formation that Harbaugh doesn't know how to counteract...and suddenly the Patriots are "cheaters"? Hey, it's the Patriots...people like Alex don't need anything else. Bill Belichick is Darth Vader in a hoodie and Foxboro Stadium is the Death Star.

 

[ChrisL]

the Ravens ratted out the Pats.

Apparently, it wasn't just that. Seems the Colts already had suspicions from their game back in November, which they had already communicated to the league.

Well, that's an interesting comment, considering that the Colts coach said he didn't notice an issue with the balls, according to the link Alex posted. Why would he say that?

"Colts coach Chuck Pagano said he did not notice issues with the footballs and didn't specify when asked whether the Colts had reported the issue to officials."

 

[Oldstyle]

And what makes this ABSOLUTELY ridiculous is that after the under-inflated balls were made to conform during halftime...the Patriots go on to outscore the Colts 28 to 0 in the second half! So the big advantage...the big "cheat" that the Patriots were supposedly pulling off seemingly did NOTHING to help them in the first half but when they didn't have the softer balls in the second half THEY KICKED THE EVER LOVING TAR OUT OF THE COLTS!

And that makes sense to you Patriots haters? Really?

 

[Oldstyle]

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

 

[HUGGY]

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

What does breaking the rules have to do with who won the AFC Championship game?

Sean Peyton was suspended a year for just being the coach on a team that supposedly had a bounty on other teams players. He just looked the other way. How many games did New Orleans win because of that?

Tom Brady obviously decided to break the rules in instructing the equipment manager the characteristics he wanted in a game-ready prepared football. Tom Brady knows what the rules are in the allowable pressure of an OFFICIAL NFL football. Both Tom and Bill have bragged on TV interviews that they thoroughly know all the rules and that's what gives them an advantage preparing for games with other teams.

Now Tom claims he knows nothin about nothin. Bill knows nothin about nothin.

 

[Jroc]

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

What does breaking the rules have to do with who won the AFC Championship game?

Sean Peyton was suspended a year for just being the coach on a team that supposedly had a bounty on other teams players. He just looked the other way. How many games did New Orleans win because of that?

Tom Brady obviously decided to break the rules in instructing the equipment manager the characteristics he wanted in a game-ready prepared football. Tom Brady knows what the rules are in the allowable pressure of an OFFICIAL NFL football. Both Tom and Bill have bragged on TV interviews that they thoroughly know all the rules and that's what gives them an advantage preparing for games with other teams.

Now Tom claims he knows nothin about nothin. Bill knows nothin about nothin.

Cant wait till the Pats kick the shit outta Seattle who should have lost the last game

 

[ChrisL]

Don't both teams play with all the balls anyways? When the other team takes the

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

What does breaking the rules have to do with who won the AFC Championship game?

Sean Peyton was suspended a year for just being the coach on a team that supposedly had a bounty on other teams players. He just looked the other way. How many games did New Orleans win because of that?

Tom Brady obviously decided to break the rules in instructing the equipment manager the characteristics he wanted in a game-ready prepared football. Tom Brady knows what the rules are in the allowable pressure of an OFFICIAL NFL football. Both Tom and Bill have bragged on TV interviews that they thoroughly know all the rules and that's what gives them an advantage preparing for games with other teams.

Now Tom claims he knows nothin about nothin. Bill knows nothin about nothin.

Cant wait till the Pats kick the shit outta Seattle who should have lost the last game

 

[HUGGY]

Don't both teams play with all the balls anyways? When the other team takes the

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

What does breaking the rules have to do with who won the AFC Championship game?

Sean Peyton was suspended a year for just being the coach on a team that supposedly had a bounty on other teams players. He just looked the other way. How many games did New Orleans win because of that?

Tom Brady obviously decided to break the rules in instructing the equipment manager the characteristics he wanted in a game-ready prepared football. Tom Brady knows what the rules are in the allowable pressure of an OFFICIAL NFL football. Both Tom and Bill have bragged on TV interviews that they thoroughly know all the rules and that's what gives them an advantage preparing for games with other teams.

Now Tom claims he knows nothin about nothin. Bill knows nothin about nothin.

Cant wait till the Pats kick the shit outta Seattle who should have lost the last game

No.

The offense uses their own balls.

 

[Oldstyle]

Chuck Pagano knows that the pressure in the balls had ZERO to do with who won that football game. He's too classy an individual to use that as an excuse for losing that game.

Even John Harbaugh backed off on his claim that the Patriots were breaking the rules with their tackle eligible formation. Why? Because he knew that it wasn't illegal and he knew that claiming it was would only make him look like a whiny loser.

What does breaking the rules have to do with who won the AFC Championship game?

Sean Peyton was suspended a year for just being the coach on a team that supposedly had a bounty on other teams players. He just looked the other way. How many games did New Orleans win because of that?

Tom Brady obviously decided to break the rules in instructing the equipment manager the characteristics he wanted in a game-ready prepared football. Tom Brady knows what the rules are in the allowable pressure of an OFFICIAL NFL football. Both Tom and Bill have bragged on TV interviews that they thoroughly know all the rules and that's what gives them an advantage preparing for games with other teams.

Now Tom claims he knows nothin about nothin. Bill knows nothin about nothin.

What Tom Brady "claims" is that he tells the equipment people what he's looking for with his game balls. Brady likes his footballs to be as soft as allowable. Aaron Rogers on the other hand likes his footballs to be as hard as allowable. So is Aaron Rogers "obviously" breaking the rules when he instructs his equipment manager to prep his footballs that way? Or is it only Tom Brady who's guilty of this HEINOUS crime?

As for Sean Payton's suspension? In my humble opinion that was one of the stupidest things I've EVER seen the NFL do! To claim that the New Orleans Saints were doing something that other teams haven't done for decades...reward players for hard hits on opponents...is laughable. Payton got screwed. The whole thing was farce of the first order.

 

[mack20]

Here's what we all know for sure about this supposed scandal: ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING. The NFL hasn't made any official statements and multiple things have been contradicted. For example, they've been reporting for days that D'Qwell Jackson brought the football to the Colts coaching staff because he thought it felt suspicious, and today Jackson said he didn't notice any issues with the ball and that he was bummed he wasn't able to keep it.

There has been zero proof that the Patriots deliberately tampered with the footballs. We've heard jack shit from the NFL about what they suspect the Pats did or why or how. So, and I know this might sound crazy to the drama and scandal obsessed whine-bags, but how about we wait for a fucking confirmed fact or two before we proceed on this witch hunt.

I'm not even going to get into how fucking dumb I think this "scandal" is in the first place.

 

[percysunshine]

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PV=nRT

A ball inflated to 13 lbs, at room temperature, will have a pressure of 10.7 lbs when taken outside and cooled to 32 degrees..

It is not a mystery, nor a conspiracy. It is physics.

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[Oldstyle]

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PV=nRT

A ball inflated to 13 lbs, at room temperature, will have a pressure of 10.7 lbs when taken outside and cooled to 32 degrees..

It is not a mystery, nor a conspiracy. It is physics.

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To people like Huggy and Alex...physics IS a conspiracy!

 

[HUGGY]

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PV=nRT

A ball inflated to 13 lbs, at room temperature, will have a pressure of 10.7 lbs when taken outside and cooled to 32 degrees..

It is not a mystery, nor a conspiracy. It is physics.

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To people like Huggy and Alex...physics IS a conspiracy!

Why include me in this? I just want a good Super Bowl. Seattle is not responsible for this situation in any way what so ever.

I am satisfied that the Patriots will be under so much scrutiny up to and including the game that to a Seahawks players, coaches or us fans it's a non issue.

As for physics?? Why cool the balls to 32 degrees? It was raining in New England during their game with the Colts. SOOoo... OBVIOUSLY the temperature was above freezing. The reported game time temp in Foxburough/Gillette stadium was in the low 50's.

 

[SwimExpert]

So let me see if I understand how this plays out...you maintain that the Colts are suspicious of the Patriots using illegal balls from way back in November.

During that Nov. 16 game, Colts safety Mike Adams twice intercepted quarterback Tom Brady and gave the balls to the Colts' equipment manager to save. Both times there were concerns about the balls feeling under-inflated, sources earlier this season had told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Those sources also said that the Colts raised concerns to the league, which was aware of the issue going into this Sunday's AFC Championship game.

Deflate-gate Indianapolis Colts Raised Concerns in November About Under-Inflated New England Patriots Balls - ABC News

BUT DURING THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR SEASON...THE GAME THAT WILL DECIDE IF THEY GO TO THE SUPER BOWL...THEY DON'T RAISE THE ISSUE WITH THE OFFICIALS UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE HALFTIME?

Actually, they raised the issue with the league, not the on-the-field officials. And you have no idea whether the Colts mentioned anything to the officials before the game.

 

[SwimExpert]

If that WERE the case...then the entire coaching staff of the Colts should be sent packing because they are a bunch of incompetent idiots. I don't buy that story for a second however...it's so unbelievable that only the truly naive would buy into it!

How do you know what further discussions took place? Suspicion and evidence are two different things. For all you know, the league had already told the Colts that nothing could be done without evidence, and told them that if they could produce actual evidence they should call 555-555-5555 immediately.

It's funny, your reaction is that the Colts staff should be fired because they didn't raise enough alarms. Yet you give the Patriots staff a pass for doing the actual cheating in the first place! It really shows how entirely deluded you are in all of this.

 

[SwimExpert]

Which brings us back to a game where you have officials handling balls on virtually every single play of the game and none of THEM senses anything wrong with the Patriot's footballs! How is that possible? Is the officiating crew secretly all New England fans who were on the take?

Listen, this is not speculation or accusation. The NFL has confirmed that the Patriots were using deflated footballs. It is fact. That you are trying to argue that it might not be true is further evidence of your entirely delusional perspective on this subject.

 

[Papageorgio]

Which brings us back to a game where you have officials handling balls on virtually every single play of the game and none of THEM senses anything wrong with the Patriot's footballs! How is that possible? Is the officiating crew secretly all New England fans who were on the take?

Listen, this is not speculation or accusation. The NFL has confirmed that the Patriots were using deflated footballs. It is fact. That you are trying to argue that it might not be true is further evidence of your entirely delusional perspective on this subject.

I'm not saying cheating wasn't involved, however, wouldn't an NFL official notice something like an under inflated ball? They handle them more than any other person during a game. I have seen the, squeeze the before setting them down. I do think the balls were deflated but I'm wondering if refs were just letting it go. Now, if they let it go here, where else did they let it go?

 

[SwimExpert]

Since every quarterback in the league appears to have a preference over the ball that "they" play with...my question to those of you that maintain that because the Colt's balls were legal when checked...that somehow proves that the Patriot's balls were purposely deflated below league standards...is how do you know what Andrew Luck's preference is for pressure?

You really are desperately stretching. It doesn't matter what Luck's preference is. The fact of the matter is that the Patriots were using deflated footballs. At best.....and in and of itself this is truly a ridiculous stretch....but at the very, very, very, best your hypothesis implies gross incompetence by the Patriots' equipment personnel for failing to maintain the correct pressure. But anyone with a halfway functioning brain can put two-and-two together. There is now an established pattern of behavior of the Patriots using deflated footballs. Not only that, but your hypothesis that Tom Brady has been repeatedly using footballs that have been anything other than exactly the way he wanted them is more fantastic than a hobbit story.