candycorn
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Fair enough....While I am sure there is some waste, and redundancies that we can and should Cut. I have to say Yes we do need to continue to out spend the world. I know you libs feel uncomfortable living in the worlds most powerful Nation ever seen, but I rather like it. Everything we have here in this great nation today, we owe in Part to the fact that we have been the worlds Super Power. The world in turn Owes the last 60 Plus Years of unprecedentedly Peaceful Times on earth to that fact as well. Maybe you should brush up on Pre World War II History My Friend. Oh we have little wars sure, but before the USA became the worlds Super Power. World history is a long line of Brutal Conflict.Do we need to spend nearly 1/2 of all defense dollars spent by all nations on earth? We do now...outspending nearly all other countries combined.
Who is going to attack us? I'm curious...lay out the WWII model where an imperial government is going to rub us out.
A naval variant is planned.Do we need a F22 Raptor...to replace the F18 Hornet, the F18 Super Hornet, and the F15. The F15 is currently superior to any other aircraft in terms of armaments, speed, maneuverability, and of course our pilots?
You clearly do not even know much about the planes you are judging.
First, The f22 Could and would never replace the super Hornet. The Super Hornet is a carrier Born Plane, the F22 is not.
Plenty are still around.Second, We do not need a replacement for the F18 Hornet, What the hell do you think the Super hornet is.
Developed...believed....Russia....okay Russia. LOL. How well did that "developed" Russian Space shuttle work? I forget.Third, You are incorrect about the F15. It is superior to almost all aircraft out there. However Russia has recently Developed a new Plane, that most experts Believe will out class the F15 in armaments, speed, maneuverability. Not to mention that most of our F15 Fleet is aging, and can not last forever.
About the only thing you got right is our Pilots, At least currently Out Class the rest of the world. Even most of our allies. (not because Americans are just better, It's Because our Air Force has the Best training, and best Aircraft, and A vast amount of actual Combat experience to draw from.
The F22 is, or was, to assure for Decades to come that nobody can challenge us in the air.
You guys are also missing the fact that yes, the F22 costs more than our Older Planes, but it is also much more capable. The Air force can do more with less with that plane. One F22 can do the Job that 2 or 3 Planes used to do. It really is that Advanced. Also the Super Cruise Technology alone means much less fuel used.
Like I said at the start, You clearly do not know Shit about the planes you are talking about. Yet seem to think you are an Expert on whether the F22 is needed.
Oh...I'll be the first to admit I'm not expert on the F22. I do know it has a short range and that in our "global war on terror", the only response that matters is numbers and a presence that can show up anywhere any time or be based worldwide. A bunch of F22's in Tampa are not a deterrent to anybody who is not in flight range of Tampa. Those F15's in Turkey...a bit more menacing than the 22's in Tampa...would you not agree?
I do know that we're $14 Trillion in debt....Developing something to fight enemies not yet born when what we had in the 90's would take care of the job is a waste and anything you say in defense of such largess would undoubtedly be....moronic.
Wow really? What nation is anywhere close to matching us sub-surface?Rinse and Repeat. Our Los Angeles Class Sub will not remain Superior for ever.Do we really need a Virginia Class sub? To replace the Seawolf Class and the Los Angeles Class which is FAR superior to anything any other Navy has built?
BULL SHIT.You do realize that even though we out spend them. The rest of the world is still Developing New weapons. Still trying to catch up with us. What Obama is suggesting is that we stop making sure we stay ahead.
So we spend a less; we spend $0.48 of every dollar spent on defense worldwide. If we cut that back to $0.33; you mean we're going to end up being defenseless?
BULL SHIT.
Hence the Super Hornet and the Seawolf Class.As with the F22 issue, The same is true here as well. Our Existing Subs will not last forever. They do have a shelf life.
The time for cuts is long past due. I can' speak to the taxes (I haven't read up on it)--but the cuts are much more than necessary; they are the right thing to do.
Well there you have it folks, If I would have read this one closer the first time, I would not even have responded to the rest of his Drivel. He just admitted, He Knows jack shit about what exactly is being cut yet is on board with it 100%. He about Fighter Aircraft and yet assures us the F22 isn't needed.
Like I said I believe there is savings to be found cutting in Defense. Cuts that can be made that will not assure the end of the Air, Naval, and General Military Superiority of the USA. Which is how these cuts, Which I have read up on, Will assure IMO.
The Funniest thing about this to me. Is as a Constitutionalists/Libertarian. It is my belief that The Defense of this nation is one of the Few Legitimate Functions of the Federal Government. Yet the Fucks Tards want to cut Defense so they can Prop up their Unsustainable, Failing Massive inefficient Federal Social Welfare Programs. That as all Constitutionalists/Libertarians Know should not even really be a function of our Federal Government.
Social Welfare is best kept at more local Levels. the States and below. For many reasons, Key among them being Massive Federal Bureaucracies are inefficient, and wrought with waste, and more importantly Oversight, and accountability are better achieve on a smaller scale.
You liberals and your Love for the Fed. So out of touch with History.
Defend us, Negotiate Treaties, You know the things the Founders wanted the Fed to do. Do that, the each state handle the rest in their own way, and one their own terms. For Christ sake.
When will you learn. DC is nothing but a Pit of Money sucking Assholes that only care about the Next Election. They will spend 150% of Every penny we give them, and waste 60 cents of every dollar on inefficiency, and out right theft. As they reward their Backers at the expense, and on the backs, of all of us.
Holy shit Fools Open your god damn Eyes.
Yes...there you have it.
"pit of money sucking assholes"
Generalize much?
LOL. Too damn funny.