Dem Talking Point Failure: America's Poorest Are Richer Than 60% of Developed Countries

Because America has a strong welfare state, and good education. Africa, India, Latin America don't have good education, or a strong welfare state. So they suffer because of the lack of socialism.
Millions of Chinese peasants disagree.
China had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti in 1960. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia






China adopted a capitalist model decades ago, or hadn't you heard?

It also helps to have a billion people to develop your markets.
Russia has basically been flopping under capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?





Tell that to the millions of Russians who own their own cars, who used to have to walk or take the bus.

As a person who has traveled extensively in Russia from the Soviet era, through the collapse, and into the modern age, I can say with absolute certainty that you have no clue what you are talking about.

This is true. I deliver to a company that had a Russian immigrant working there. When her father became ill, she went back without a problem, and was working on bringing him back to the US since their medical care there isn't worth squat. The government had no problem with that, but he decided to die in his home country.
 
China had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti in 1960. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia






China adopted a capitalist model decades ago, or hadn't you heard?

It also helps to have a billion people to develop your markets.
Russia has basically been flopping under capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?
61 million Russians murdered by their own government disagree.
The life expectancy had risen in Russia from 32 in 1913 to 64 in 1950. How could that many be killed if the life expectancy had risen so sharply?Health in Russia - Wikipedia



Because they only track those who live, silly person.
It’s like the left waving infant mortality rate of Cuba being higher than the US.

Cuba only counts infants who’ve lived 24 hours after a 9 month birth.
 
China adopted a capitalist model decades ago, or hadn't you heard?

It also helps to have a billion people to develop your markets.
Russia has basically been flopping under capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?
61 million Russians murdered by their own government disagree.
The life expectancy had risen in Russia from 32 in 1913 to 64 in 1950. How could that many be killed if the life expectancy had risen so sharply?Health in Russia - Wikipedia



Because they only track those who live, silly person.
It’s like the left waving infant mortality rate of Cuba being higher than the US.

Cuba only counts infants who’ve lived 24 hours after a 9 month birth.

Cuba is also not a diverse country as the US. If you take away our murders involving minorities, we are probably on the same level as Europe. But because of our murder rate--especially among younger adults, it drastically reduces our lifespan. Then we have the drug issue deaths; last year, over 90,000 OD deaths.
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.


Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Mostly in Dem run cities, I finished your point for you.

Wrong. Mississippi is number one in poverty.

List of U.S. states and territories by poverty rate - Wikipedia

Its biggest cities run by radical Dem's. :auiqs.jpg:

In predominately red States?
 
When you grew up. Not anymore.

Define "very well off."

Twice as well as those that are well off.

That's not a definition, that's bloviating.

And you were expecting more from a stupid-ass question?

You wrote that you are "well off." How much is "well off?"

While I do consider myself quite well off, I'm not seeing where I wrote that I'm well off.

Right here:
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The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Possibly because "poor" is a relative term. There are always going to be people at the low end of the economic spectrum, and they are going to be termed "the poor" for that group. But thinking "the poor" in the US has any similarity to the poor of other nations requires a unique level of America-centric myopia and ignorance. (Which, when I think about it, is a good description of you.)

Writing of "other nations" is simply deception. The issue is the United States. Why shouldn't we have prosperity among ALL citizens?
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.
Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.


Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.

The fact that 80% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

Some American Workers have to have a second or third job to make ends meet.

Or the immoral lie of employers can't afford to pay a living wage.

The fact is that most of those people don't HAVE to live paycheck to paycheck. That's largely a result of life choices, not any sort of unconquerable "poverty" by any sane definition of the word.

"Some people have extra jobs! Oh, the horror!!" The REAL poor in the world can't get jobs at all, and you want us to sob over those who live under an economy with such plentiful work available that they can find two jobs, because it's such an "awful" thing to labor to improve your life? What language are you even speaking?

"It's immoral that employers don't treat workers like helpless children!" You're really going to talk about "not paying a living wage" - which always seems to mean "give me enough money to have whatever I want, just because I exist" in a conversation about people for whom starvation is a major cause of death? Your idea of "not even a living wage" is their idea of luxury, which is rather the point.

It becomes increasingly obvious that the main reason you hate America is because you're so ignorant about everything outside of America that you have no perspective to work with.

It's immoral that employers don't pay their workers "the people that make the company ALL of their money" a living wage.

The government shutdown spotlights a bigger issue: 78% of US workers live paycheck to paycheck

Quit bashing the American Worker, commie......
 
Unless one is born into money one has next to a zero chance of becoming wealthy. If one is born into poverty one has a next to zero chance of becoming middle class. And work ethic won't change the equation.
I grew up in poverty, and I’m very well off now. As are millions of others.

When you grew up. Not anymore.

Define "very well off."

Actually, as one of my previous links pointed out, MORE millionaires today are self-made than thirty years ago.

Actually, as one of my previous links pointed out, MORE millionaires today are self-made than thirty years ago.

You're stating that "very well off" is a millionaire?
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.


Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Again, "poor" is a relative term. Your inability to to understand that "poor" means very different things in different countries proves nothing but that your appalling ignorance is consistent on every subject.

Again, the issue is the United States of America, NOT "different" countries.
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.
Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.


Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.

The fact that 80% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

Some American Workers have to have a second or third job to make ends meet.

Or the immoral lie of employers can't afford to pay a living wage.

The fact is that most of those people don't HAVE to live paycheck to paycheck. That's largely a result of life choices, not any sort of unconquerable "poverty" by any sane definition of the word.

"Some people have extra jobs! Oh, the horror!!" The REAL poor in the world can't get jobs at all, and you want us to sob over those who live under an economy with such plentiful work available that they can find two jobs, because it's such an "awful" thing to labor to improve your life? What language are you even speaking?

"It's immoral that employers don't treat workers like helpless children!" You're really going to talk about "not paying a living wage" - which always seems to mean "give me enough money to have whatever I want, just because I exist" in a conversation about people for whom starvation is a major cause of death? Your idea of "not even a living wage" is their idea of luxury, which is rather the point.

It becomes increasingly obvious that the main reason you hate America is because you're so ignorant about everything outside of America that you have no perspective to work with.

It's immoral that employers don't pay their workers "the people that make the company ALL of their money" a living wage.

The government shutdown spotlights a bigger issue: 78% of US workers live paycheck to paycheck

Quit bashing the American Worker, commie......
It’s the fault of individuals they don’t save money. It’s pure life choices and most under 50 choose to live for the pleasures of today and screw tomorrow.
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.


Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Mostly in Dem run cities, I finished your point for you.

Wrong. Mississippi is number one in poverty.

List of U.S. states and territories by poverty rate - Wikipedia

You know the difference between a city and a state, right? They have dictionaries online, in case you're confused.

You know the difference between a city and a state, right? They have dictionaries online, in case you're confused.

I'm pointing out the real picture instead of the hard right deception.
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.


Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.
And?

It is a simple fact that no matter what system you use, no matter how your government works poor people are a fact.

There will always be people that have less than others. No amount of forced 'equal' outcomes will change that reality.

They won't be under tRumps proposal.

Trump Has A New Solution for Poverty: Pretend Poor People Don’t Exist

"Well, I found a leftist site that says THIS, so that makes it true, right?!"

Sure you did.
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.


Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Again, "poor" is a relative term. Your inability to to understand that "poor" means very different things in different countries proves nothing but that your appalling ignorance is consistent on every subject.


The Poor in America live in climate controlled homes, have electricity, indoor plumbing and refrigerators, watch big screen TVs, have mobile phones and automobiles...and have a high rate of obesity (and Type II diabetes).

The Real Poor in other countries and earlier in history starved and lived in squalor.

Over here we have ramp beggars. These are people that stand on the highway get off ramps holding signs hoping the motorists stopped at the red light will give them money. One time a girl was standing there with a sign, and with her other hand, pulled out her cell phone to answer a call. Must have been the ramp beggars union or something because it must have been important.

Was it a Reagan phone?
 
The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.
Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.


Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.

The fact that 80% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

Some American Workers have to have a second or third job to make ends meet.

Or the immoral lie of employers can't afford to pay a living wage.


Perhaps they should learn to budget.

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The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.
Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.


Poor being they have an iPhone 5 and their DVD player doesn’t play Blu Ray.

The fact that 80% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

Some American Workers have to have a second or third job to make ends meet.

Or the immoral lie of employers can't afford to pay a living wage.


Perhaps they should learn to budget.

.
Yep. It’s all a matter of life choices.

Buy that boat instead of putting it in a 401k
 
It isn't about the money. It's about the power. Having a free society means limiting all accumulations of power, "for who could be free, when every other man's humour might domineer over him?"
 

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