Democrat protesters try to attack a man with gun, in NM, bad idea

I could watch this over and over and over and smile that the guy they wanted to stomp into the ground and beat with their skateboards...got even. BANG!!!!!
Yeah, but they're gonna make an example of him. The local government never had any intention of stopping these protesters and now the vandals are the "victims"
 
You can't be protecting yourself if you are black though. Then it is you that get arrested.

Black pastor reports threat to police, but he winds up arrested
Yes, shit like that happens and it's wrong but it does not justify lawlessness.

It does.
No it doesn't. We are a nation of laws, lawlessness goes against everything that is constitutional.

I've noted many times..........The Founders understood that at times violence is all that is left.
 
the fact he was there to ostensibly "guard the statue" for whatever reason
That's my objection. That's a bunch of guff, imo. I've got no sympathy for these vigilante groups. They're dangerous and unauthorized, and carrying guns to intimidate? Nah--that guy had no business being there, imo.

I was surprised when I heard about this guy being arrested. It does seem like self defense, the side of the story we've heard, but I still think militias are bad news. They are moving in because the cops are hanging back. That needs to stop, too, or we're going to see a lot more of this, and it's going to end up with killing.
 
We are now in the wild west days.
Yes. In the "wild west days" it was because there were no cops. Now it's because town and city leaders are terrified and are pulling back the cops out of fear they'll be burned. Both out of line.
 
You can't be protecting yourself if you are black though. Then it is you that get arrested.

Black pastor reports threat to police, but he winds up arrested
Yes, shit like that happens and it's wrong but it does not justify lawlessness.

It does.
No it doesn't. We are a nation of laws, lawlessness goes against everything that is constitutional.

I've noted many times..........The Founders understood that at times violence is all that is left.
Guess that's why Washington quelled the Whiskey Rebellion........
 
Age old fact throughout human history in that if there’s no one assigned to law enforcement, everyone will assume that role.
Update: the police arrested the man for defending himself.
Truly the Crazy Years.

Perhaps I'm missing something because the video is bouncing all over the place.
At which time does the guy shoot someone?
 
We are now in the wild west days.
Yes. In the "wild west days" it was because there were no cops. Now it's because town and city leaders are terrified and are pulling back the cops out of fear they'll be burned. Both out of line.
Bull shit. In most "wild west" towns there was law, in a very few the towns were run by criminals and in a few others the line between lawman and criminal was blurred. Hollywood is the worst way to determine how law in the west worked.
 
the fact he was there to ostensibly "guard the statue" for whatever reason
That's my objection. That's a bunch of guff, imo. I've got no sympathy for these vigilante groups. They're dangerous and unauthorized, and carrying guns to intimidate? Nah--that guy had no business being there, imo.

I was surprised when I heard about this guy being arrested. It does seem like self defense, the side of the story we've heard, but I still think militias are bad news. They are moving in because the cops are hanging back. That needs to stop, too, or we're going to see a lot more of this, and it's going to end up with killing.
The guy had just as much "business" (right) being there as the mob. What's really funny is the clueless mob who found a "target" in the guise of a statue were eventually beaten by the statue.
 
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These self-appointed armed militia men came to the protest to protect the statue? You think these white knuckleheads in their military surplus give a shit about conquistador Juan de Oñate? Give me a break. They came to see if they could kick some ass. And when the ass kicking started, the guy pulled a gun on people he had provoked and he shot one. That's the other way to look at this.

Maybe he will get off on self defense, but the cops don't appreciate these vigilantes getting involved for EXACTLY this reason. Who the hell died and made them the police? NO ONE. There could have been a loss of life here. He didn't have to be there playing cop or defender of the Spanish oppressors.

Real patriots love their country and work toward a better society that is safe for everyone. Juan de Onate wasn't killed. He was a statue. He could be repaired, if so decided. A life is harder to replace. Real patriots don't make irresponsible decisions that lead to more violence.

And where WERE the police anyway?


There's so much hypocrisy in your post its hilarious.
 
the fact he was there to ostensibly "guard the statue" for whatever reason
That's my objection. That's a bunch of guff, imo. I've got no sympathy for these vigilante groups. They're dangerous and unauthorized, and carrying guns to intimidate? Nah--that guy had no business being there, imo.

I was surprised when I heard about this guy being arrested. It does seem like self defense, the side of the story we've heard, but I still think militias are bad news. They are moving in because the cops are hanging back. That needs to stop, too, or we're going to see a lot more of this, and it's going to end up with killing.

Your opinions are foolish.
 
Who said he was a
For all of you guys who are saying this shooter was a liberal leftist, sorry to disappoint you, but he was a Republican.



Police have released little information about the suspected shooter and have not said whether they think he has any connection to the armed group. In a Facebook post, New Mexico Civil Guard Curry County denied that the gunman was a member, writing that its affiliates responded to disarm and encircle the gunman and prevent further violence.

Baca is a political conservative and a registered Republican, according to voter records. He last year ran unsuccessfully for a seat on the Albuquerque City Council, telling the Albuquerque Journal at the time that "he felt compelled to seek his first elected office out of fear the community is becoming a 'third world country.' "

On his campaign Facebook page, which no longer exists, Baca criticized local authorities as being "complete wimps when it comes to fighting crime," the newspaper reported. He went on to receive less than 6 percent of the vote.

A 2016 GoFundMe account that he seems to have created indicates that he traveled to the Republican National Convention that year as an alternate delegate.
Leftist?????

The vandals are leftists.
The mayor who looked the other way is a leftist
The governor is a leftist.

The leftist government is encouraging the destruction of private property.

This hero took a stand.

No sympathy for those who got shot destroying private property
 
We are now in the wild west days.
Yes. In the "wild west days" it was because there were no cops. Now it's because town and city leaders are terrified and are pulling back the cops out of fear they'll be burned. Both out of line.
Bull shit. In most "wild west" towns there was law, in a very few the towns were run by criminals and in a few others the line between lawman and criminal was blurred. Hollywood is the worst way to determine how law in the west worked.
Always glad to learn something new; thanks.
 

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