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You should read about the Battle of Hayes Pond where in 1958 the Lumbee Indians ran off the KKK....... Many shots were fired but the Indians fired into the air, the though armed themselves the KKKers ran like scared chickens and hid in the woods and swamps for three days......
Yes, and I'm stating my opinion, have been all along. I'm not a lawyer.I'm referencing LAW not opinion.......This militia does not own the statue, it is not their property and they are not protecting either their property or their livelihoods here. "Technically" it is not at all the same.As long as you make no attempt to harm anyone you'd be within your rights. Say a bunch of store owners form an armed picket line to protect their property and livelihoods, technically it's the same, they're within their rights to do so.
In this country, people cry "rights" when they're in the wrong. A lot. Maybe not "legally" wrong, but I know what I think is right and wrong, and what this group of militia did was wrong, imo.
We spend a ton on education
Apparently, not enough.We spend a ton on education
Age old fact throughout human history in that if there’s no one assigned to law enforcement, everyone will assume that role.
Update: the police arrested the man for defending himself.
Truly the Crazy Years.
Give more. They will take itApparently, not enough.We spend a ton on education
Or this girl just sitting there not being armed:
I'm not a lawyer either but I'm fairly well conversed in different aspects of the law. Personally, unless I'm defending me and mine it's not a good idea to try and go up against inflamed passions even if the bellows stoking the fire is mostly perception and propaganda.Yes, and I'm stating my opinion, have been all along. I'm not a lawyer.I'm referencing LAW not opinion.......This militia does not own the statue, it is not their property and they are not protecting either their property or their livelihoods here. "Technically" it is not at all the same.As long as you make no attempt to harm anyone you'd be within your rights. Say a bunch of store owners form an armed picket line to protect their property and livelihoods, technically it's the same, they're within their rights to do so.
In this country, people cry "rights" when they're in the wrong. A lot. Maybe not "legally" wrong, but I know what I think is right and wrong, and what this group of militia did was wrong, imo.
Gold rush. Had a gr-gr grandfather go there. Left a wife and eight kids, one still in the cradle. He didn't return for 30 years. I found a gold nugget in the closet (I live in the family homestead) and I've sometimes wondered if he brought it home with him.Twice in the 1850s, 1851 & 1856.When was this, Ringel?Some like San Francisco, the government, the law and the criminals began working together, the citizens finally tired of it and formed Committees of Vigilance. They eventually hung 8 people and forced many city politicians to resign. Each of the committees formally disbanded after three months when law was restored to the city.
Schools are a microcosm of their communities. When the community has big problems, so will the school, and the students. Schools couldn't fix that within it's walls in 180 days a year for 6 hours a day, even if you gave them a billion dollars.Apparently, not enough.We spend a ton on education
Basically the small sleepy town of 800 boomed to 20,000 almost overnight..........Gold rush. Had a gr-gr grandfather go there. Left a wife and eight kids, one still in the cradle. He didn't return for 30 years. I found a gold nugget in the closet (I live in the family homestead) and I've sometimes wondered if he brought it home with him.Twice in the 1850s, 1851 & 1856.When was this, Ringel?Some like San Francisco, the government, the law and the criminals began working together, the citizens finally tired of it and formed Committees of Vigilance. They eventually hung 8 people and forced many city politicians to resign. Each of the committees formally disbanded after three months when law was restored to the city.
Citizen self enforcement (so called militia) is bad news but looters and rioters are noble and to be left alone to present their cause. Citizens who object will be arrestedThat's my objection. That's a bunch of guff, imo. I've got no sympathy for these vigilante groups. They're dangerous and unauthorized, and carrying guns to intimidate? Nah--that guy had no business being there, imo.the fact he was there to ostensibly "guard the statue" for whatever reason
I was surprised when I heard about this guy being arrested. It does seem like self defense, the side of the story we've heard, but I still think militias are bad news. They are moving in because the cops are hanging back. That needs to stop, too, or we're going to see a lot more of this, and it's going to end up with killing.
yea i know you seem to think you are....Come on Harry I’m the baddest mo fo in herewe?.....what are you going to do?.....hold the guys coats as they go out and do the job?....We need more of this armed men protecting our heritage. Cops won’t do it we will
jitss said he is black opps and of course he could kick bruce lees ass....Huh?Huh?You must be the only one where you are at.Come on Harry I’m the baddest mo fo in herewe?.....what are you going to do?.....hold the guys coats as they go out and do the job?....We need more of this armed men protecting our heritage. Cops won’t do it we will
If there is the current right to riot then there is also right to stop riot.If I , Jane Q. Public, go to a demonstration by people I am totally opposed to, and I take a loaded gun with me, and I play riot control when they get rowdy, even though I have been given no authority to do so, I HAVE NO BUSINESS DOING THAT.The guy had just as much "business" (right) being there as the mob.
Sorry.
They say the Great Fire was so bad because of all the cheap hurried housing and businesses they threw up at breakneck speed to handle the influx.Basically the small sleepy town of 800 boomed to 20,000 almost overnight..........Gold rush. Had a gr-gr grandfather go there. Left a wife and eight kids, one still in the cradle. He didn't return for 30 years. I found a gold nugget in the closet (I live in the family homestead) and I've sometimes wondered if he brought it home with him.sTwice in the 1850s, 1851 & 1856.When was this, Ringel?Some like San Francisco, the government, the law and the criminals began working together, the citizens finally tired of it and formed Committees of Vigilance. They eventually hung 8 people and forced many city politicians to resign. Each of the committees formally disbanded after three months when law was restored to the city.
I could watch this over and over and over and smile that the guy they wanted to stomp into the ground and beat with their skateboards...got even. BANG!!!!!
Yet you say not one word about these violent assholes who were committing illegal acts. Destruction of public property, assault, and more. So you can shut your pie hole. We know who REAL patriots are. And it’s nobody you and your ilk support.These self-appointed armed militia men came to the protest to protect the statue? You think these white knuckleheads in their military surplus give a shit about conquistador Juan de Oñate? Give me a break. They came to see if they could kick some ass. And when the ass kicking started, the guy pulled a gun on people he had provoked and he shot one. That's the other way to look at this.
Maybe he will get off on self defense, but the cops don't appreciate these vigilantes getting involved for EXACTLY this reason. Who the hell died and made them the police? NO ONE. There could have been a loss of life here. He didn't have to be there playing cop or defender of the Spanish oppressors.
Real patriots love their country and work toward a better society that is safe for everyone. Juan de Onate wasn't killed. He was a statue. He could be repaired, if so decided. A life is harder to replace. Real patriots don't make irresponsible decisions that lead to more violence.
And where WERE the police anyway?
What he meant to say was he wears pink tops and his boyfriend bruce is always in his ass.jitss said he is black opps and of course he could kick bruce lees ass....Huh?Huh?You must be the only one where you are at.Come on Harry I’m the baddest mo fo in herewe?.....what are you going to do?.....hold the guys coats as they go out and do the job?....We need more of this armed men protecting our heritage. Cops won’t do it we will
