Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

[pknopp]

he did not go after Sanders, he went after communism which is totally irrelevant. The USSR China North Korea Cuba are not socialist in the modern sense. They are socialists in the USSR communist sense. Socialism is always Democratic in one sense or another. And communism was discovered to be a fraud in that sense. In the 20s 30s most of the world. But English and American Savage capitalists love conflating the two so the English-speaking world is behind the times.

Bernie says he has no problem being called a Communist, why do you care?

You are absolutely out of your tiny little brainwashed mind, super duper. LOL Democratic socialist immediately means you are nuts. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all industry and business. The only people for communism are people in China North Korea and Cuba with a gun to their heads. It is totally discredited. Try reality and change the channel. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. Of course he didn't realize what scumbag liars and obstructionists the GOP is. And Dupes like you of course

Bernie said himself he has no problem being called a Commie, take it up with him. Commie lover.

Total baloney. Communism is a dictatorship which I would immediately take up arms against. S*******

Name one difference between the agendas of the Democrats and Communists.

No one can. Because they are one in the same now.

Calling Republicans Communists now are we?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

he did not go after Sanders, he went after communism which is totally irrelevant. The USSR China North Korea Cuba are not socialist in the modern sense. They are socialists in the USSR communist sense. Socialism is always Democratic in one sense or another. And communism was discovered to be a fraud in that sense. In the 20s 30s most of the world. But English and American Savage capitalists love conflating the two so the English-speaking world is behind the times.

Bernie says he has no problem being called a Communist, why do you care?

Bernie has never agreed to being called a communist you lying sack.

Liar....

"In 1972, Sanders, then a gubernatorial protest candidate for the socialist Liberty Union Party, visited an alternative high school in Rutland, Vermont, to give his campaign pitch. During a question-and-answer session, Sanders, then 31, brushed off accusations of being a left-wing radical.

"I don't mind people coming up and calling me a communist," Sanders said. "At least, they're still alive."

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I don't mind people calling me a communist'

Yawn! You support a man hell bent on becoming a dictator. STFU.

Yawn! You support a man hell bent on becoming a dictator. STFU.

Is that why you support gun confiscation? You are a dictator supporter obviously.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bernie says he has no problem being called a Communist, why do you care?

You are absolutely out of your tiny little brainwashed mind, super duper. LOL Democratic socialist immediately means you are nuts. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all industry and business. The only people for communism are people in China North Korea and Cuba with a gun to their heads. It is totally discredited. Try reality and change the channel. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. Of course he didn't realize what scumbag liars and obstructionists the GOP is. And Dupes like you of course

Bernie said himself he has no problem being called a Commie, take it up with him. Commie lover.

Total baloney. Communism is a dictatorship which I would immediately take up arms against. S*******

Name one difference between the agendas of the Democrats and Communists.

No one can. Because they are one in the same now.

Calling Republicans Communists now are we?

How did I know you can’t name one difference between Democrats and Communists?

 

[pknopp]

You are absolutely out of your tiny little brainwashed mind, super duper. LOL Democratic socialist immediately means you are nuts. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all industry and business. The only people for communism are people in China North Korea and Cuba with a gun to their heads. It is totally discredited. Try reality and change the channel. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. Of course he didn't realize what scumbag liars and obstructionists the GOP is. And Dupes like you of course

Bernie said himself he has no problem being called a Commie, take it up with him. Commie lover.

Total baloney. Communism is a dictatorship which I would immediately take up arms against. S*******

Name one difference between the agendas of the Democrats and Communists.

No one can. Because they are one in the same now.

Calling Republicans Communists now are we?

How did I know you can’t name one difference between Democrats and Communists?

If you can rise above Jr high level discussion, that would be great.

Besides, I'm not a Democrat.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bernie said himself he has no problem being called a Commie, take it up with him. Commie lover.

Total baloney. Communism is a dictatorship which I would immediately take up arms against. S*******

Name one difference between the agendas of the Democrats and Communists.

No one can. Because they are one in the same now.

Calling Republicans Communists now are we?

How did I know you can’t name one difference between Democrats and Communists?

If you can rise above Jr high level discussion, that would be great.

Besides, I'm not a Democrat.

Irrelevant. No one can a difference between Communists and Democrats.

 

[kyzr]

Your claim of "slave rapists" is proven bullshit in this link. Sally agreed to the liaison, i.e. gave her consent.

HOW CAN YOU CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE FUCKING PROPERTY?

You stupid fuck, how can you even intake oxygen without assistance.

Sally Hemmings was PROPERTY. She could be beaten, sold or raped without any recourse to law. The fact that Jefferson started fucking her when she was 15 and he was 43 makes it even MORE creepy.

We needed Doctor Who to drop off Chris Hansen in 1776!

Even if you are "technically" property you can still give your consent. In fact she did. Deal with it, read the article and understand what happened. Sally lived in Paris as basically a free woman. She told her children the deal and what happened.
Jefferson had to be very careful because his enemies were looking for scandals. Don't try to apply modern norms to ancient times.
At least they didn't sell baby parts back then, as an example.

Yes. She consented so her children wouldn't have to live the slave existence she did. That is not a consent.

Do you think that they were in love, or do you think she was just being practical and playing him?
Knowing Thomas Jefferson, do you think he could rape a slave?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

Any one is going to have to raise taxes. We are 23 Trillion in debt. Why do you support massive programs that are never paid for?

When are people going to step up and start paying the trillions the wars are costing us?

Here is where you and I part ways. I agree we are 23 trillion in debt. Taxes are not the answer. Spending reductions are.

Both are going to have to be. For a couple reasons. You can't just cut your way out of 23 Trillion in debt and unless people are actually forced to pay for things they won't insist on cuts.

I disagree. We have a three trillion dollar budget. Cut a trillion per year and pay that directly to the debt as a principal payment. Like a home mortgage, if you pay an additional payment directly to principle, you half the time needed to pay off the balance and you do it cheaper because you don't have to pay that additional time in interest.

So, 23 trillion becomes less than 12 years.

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Dissolve the increasingly overwhelming concentrations of wealth by abolishing inheritance. Leftover wealth must go back to the public, not to set up the heirs with an unearned advantage. From the 1% alone, that would get us $3 trillion a year.

Or would you rather tax the living than the dead? Then you've been brainwashed by Birth-Class Supremacy's thought control to hate your own Daddy for not getting rich and spoiling you.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

Any one is going to have to raise taxes. We are 23 Trillion in debt. Why do you support massive programs that are never paid for?

When are people going to step up and start paying the trillions the wars are costing us?

Here is where you and I part ways. I agree we are 23 trillion in debt. Taxes are not the answer. Spending reductions are.

Both are going to have to be. For a couple reasons. You can't just cut your way out of 23 Trillion in debt and unless people are actually forced to pay for things they won't insist on cuts.

I disagree. We have a three trillion dollar budget. Cut a trillion per year and pay that directly to the debt as a principal payment. Like a home mortgage, if you pay an additional payment directly to principle, you half the time needed to pay off the balance and you do it cheaper because you don't have to pay that additional time in interest.

So, 23 trillion becomes less than 12 years.

No one is even suggesting anything like that.

Why not?

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Because the ruling class controls all the suggestions; every pundit is one of its flunkies.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

Any one is going to have to raise taxes. We are 23 Trillion in debt. Why do you support massive programs that are never paid for?

When are people going to step up and start paying the trillions the wars are costing us?

Here is where you and I part ways. I agree we are 23 trillion in debt. Taxes are not the answer. Spending reductions are.

Both are going to have to be. For a couple reasons. You can't just cut your way out of 23 Trillion in debt and unless people are actually forced to pay for things they won't insist on cuts.

I disagree. We have a three trillion dollar budget. Cut a trillion per year and pay that directly to the debt as a principal payment. Like a home mortgage, if you pay an additional payment directly to principle, you half the time needed to pay off the balance and you do it cheaper because you don't have to pay that additional time in interest.

So, 23 trillion becomes less than 12 years.

No one is even suggesting anything like that.

Why not?

Money Talks, and That's All We Hear


Because the ruling class controls all the suggestions; every pundit is one of its flunkies.

 

[pknopp]

Your claim of "slave rapists" is proven bullshit in this link. Sally agreed to the liaison, i.e. gave her consent.

HOW CAN YOU CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE FUCKING PROPERTY?

You stupid fuck, how can you even intake oxygen without assistance.

Sally Hemmings was PROPERTY. She could be beaten, sold or raped without any recourse to law. The fact that Jefferson started fucking her when she was 15 and he was 43 makes it even MORE creepy.

We needed Doctor Who to drop off Chris Hansen in 1776!

Even if you are "technically" property you can still give your consent. In fact she did. Deal with it, read the article and understand what happened. Sally lived in Paris as basically a free woman. She told her children the deal and what happened.
Jefferson had to be very careful because his enemies were looking for scandals. Don't try to apply modern norms to ancient times.
At least they didn't sell baby parts back then, as an example.

Yes. She consented so her children wouldn't have to live the slave existence she did. That is not a consent.

Do you think that they were in love, or do you think she was just being practical and playing him?
Knowing Thomas Jefferson, do you think he could rape a slave?

Do I think he could? Yes, absolutely. Do I think she was in love with him? We have seen cases where people end up siding with their capturer.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

That is what Bernie Sanders' Sanders's workers said they would do.

Decade After Decadent Decade, Generation After Degenerate Generation


I wonder whom he himself voted for in 1968. That year, the DNC Politburo dissed the rioting Lefties and chose a Bidenial candidate, Hubert Humphrey, whose opponent was Richard Nixon, hated by young Sanders's clique as much as the same Campus Commie Scum types hate Trump now.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So you are for Sanders? Call my basically yes, I voted for him against Hillary in the New York State primary in 2016. just because you like Sanders should not mean that you start believing all the crap we got from the GOP and corporate media for that matter about his opponents in the Democratic party. That's how Hillary lost in the general election and it's a damn shame. Breaking she is not corrupt poor owned by Wall Street is because she took a lot of money for speeches. GOP crap character assassination just like all the other phony scandals about her Obama Lois Lerner colder and on and on and on. All crap. Just like Sanders was cheated. Those superdelegates would have voted for him if he had beaten her in the primaries, which he did not.

Hillary never saw a war she wouldn't support and promote. Wall Street was going to get something from all the money they gave her.

The GOP did not tell me that. History did.

She would have been so much better than Trump it's ridiculous. She was lied to on Iraq so blaming her's kind of ridiculous. Libya was a good job and not a war as far as America was concerned. Just a police action to save freedom fighters and the City of Benghazi from a total a****** dictator and terrorist.

Were those the freedom fighters that killed our ambassador, that you love so?

Do you understand the things we have done over there?

Oh, so our ambassador deserved to die?

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He was a pedophile requisitioning boys from the Arab Street. He didn't want too many embassy guards around witnessing his activities. It was all hushed up, except for the fact that he was "homosexual."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So you are for Sanders? Call my basically yes, I voted for him against Hillary in the New York State primary in 2016. just because you like Sanders should not mean that you start believing all the crap we got from the GOP and corporate media for that matter about his opponents in the Democratic party. That's how Hillary lost in the general election and it's a damn shame. Breaking she is not corrupt poor owned by Wall Street is because she took a lot of money for speeches. GOP crap character assassination just like all the other phony scandals about her Obama Lois Lerner colder and on and on and on. All crap. Just like Sanders was cheated. Those superdelegates would have voted for him if he had beaten her in the primaries, which he did not.

Hillary never saw a war she wouldn't support and promote. Wall Street was going to get something from all the money they gave her.

The GOP did not tell me that. History did.

She would have been so much better than Trump it's ridiculous. She was lied to on Iraq so blaming her's kind of ridiculous. Libya was a good job and not a war as far as America was concerned. Just a police action to save freedom fighters and the City of Benghazi from a total a****** dictator and terrorist.

Were those the freedom fighters that killed our ambassador, that you love so?

Do you understand the things we have done over there?

Oh, so our ambassador deserved to die?

The Reason That, in Sane Days, Gayists Were Considered to Be a Security Risk


He was a pedophile requisitioning boys from the Arab Street. He didn't want too many embassy guards around witnessing his activities. It was all hushed up, except for the fact that he was "homosexual." In our fairyphile times, that is considered to be irrelevant.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

he did not go after Sanders, he went after communism which is totally irrelevant. The USSR China North Korea Cuba are not socialist in the modern sense. They are socialists in the USSR communist sense. Socialism is always Democratic in one sense or another. And communism was discovered to be a fraud in that sense. In the 20s 30s most of the world. But English and American Savage capitalists love conflating the two so the English-speaking world is behind the times.

What the hell are you talking about....?

Ok, easy...What Socialist country of like size in population would you like to see us emulate? and why?

Population is irrelevant, but you could count the EU at 450 million. The question is why are we the only modern country without a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich and giant corporations their fair share? Thanks GOP and silly dupes. Franco in my name stands for Francophile. Just because we have those benefits of citizenship does not mean we're going to turn into Frenchmen LOL. Just that we will have a healthy working and middle-class and our economy will work again for people beside the rich like The last 35 years. Everything you know is wrong, only the propaganda machine makes this GOP Mess possible. "We are all socialists now!"--the prime minister of Finland when ObamaCare passed... That is how scary socialism is in reality....

So you think that the EU is more prosperous than the US?

"Average gross domestic product (GDP) in the US is about 40% higher than average GDP of the EU-15 when measured at purchasing power parity (PPP). The gap is slightly greater if we consider either the twelve Eurozone members (EU-12) or add the accession states (EU-25). Although GDP is a poor indicator of measure of welfare or happiness, let’s agree to use it for the sake of comparison.
The main reason the US is richer is, first of all, because a higher proportion of Americans are in employment and, secondly, they work about 20% more hours per year than Europeans."

snip

"When we compare the growth rate of GDP of the US and the EU-15, the US rate averaged over the past decade is about 1.2 percentage points higher than that of the EU-15."

snip

"What is also true is that since the 2001 recession, the US has bounced back faster than the EU. At present, both GDP growth per head and labour productivity are growing faster in the US."

snip

"The employment rates are 86 and 88 percent for the EU-15 and the US respectively. The US data show a higher employment rate for youth (15-24) and a much higher rate for preretirement (55-64) and post retirement (65 and over) groups."

Europe vs. USA: Whose Economy Wins?

So let's see,

1. larger economy

2. Bounced back faster since ressession

3. lower unemployment


Hmmmm....US wins in all three catagories...

We aren't "prosperous". The EU can't just print up billions every day like we do.

Odd how it's fine to do for useless wars but not for helping sick people here.

We build roads and bridges in Iraq with this money but when someone wants to help people here those like yourself yell "COMMUNIST".

What a joke.

So, you're saying that you need a handout to succeed, and are pissed that you can't do it yourself, even when the opportunity is there for you....

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Deep down inside and buried deeper, all HeirHeads realize that they'd be nobodies without Daddy's Money. hillary would be a waitress; the Kennedys and Bushes would be bartenders. They live their whole lives pretending that they have a self-identity; that's why they are such a nasty and pushy clique.

 

[Flash]

Who votes for a socialist?

If he ends up being the Moon Bat Party's candidate 50+ million really confused Democrat idiots will vote for Socialist Bernie. Many of them that post on this forum.

 

[Flash]

All this ridiculous verbiage about 'revolution' and social violence in America is absurd. It only makes the mundane seem important.
The 'wings' are tearing the whole of the nation into their imaginary halves.
There are the 'halves' and the 'halve-nots', those of us who do not believe in the binary, duopolistic division that serves only to degrade us all.

Yea, but it is a fact of life.

The division is between the greedy assholes that thinks the government should steal stuff on their behalf and the people that the government will steal from. Like us taxpayers.

 

[pknopp]

All this ridiculous verbiage about 'revolution' and social violence in America is absurd. It only makes the mundane seem important.
The 'wings' are tearing the whole of the nation into their imaginary halves.
There are the 'halves' and the 'halve-nots', those of us who do not believe in the binary, duopolistic division that serves only to degrade us all.

Yea, but it is a fact of life.

The division is between the greedy assholes that thinks the government should steal stuff on their behalf and the people that the government will steal from. Like us taxpayers.

You mean you deadbeats that don't want to pay for the infrastructure and services you use?

 

[Norman]

All this ridiculous verbiage about 'revolution' and social violence in America is absurd. It only makes the mundane seem important.
The 'wings' are tearing the whole of the nation into their imaginary halves.
There are the 'halves' and the 'halve-nots', those of us who do not believe in the binary, duopolistic division that serves only to degrade us all.

Yea, but it is a fact of life.

The division is between the greedy assholes that thinks the government should steal stuff on their behalf and the people that the government will steal from. Like us taxpayers.

You mean you deadbeats that don't want to pay for the infrastructure and services you use?

Folks, we have identified the idiot.

Weren't you arguing in last thread that taxation is theft... and not paying tax is freeloading? Ok... I think we can pay for the infrastructure while Biden's son is not making millions off the backs.

 

[pknopp]

All this ridiculous verbiage about 'revolution' and social violence in America is absurd. It only makes the mundane seem important.
The 'wings' are tearing the whole of the nation into their imaginary halves.
There are the 'halves' and the 'halve-nots', those of us who do not believe in the binary, duopolistic division that serves only to degrade us all.

Yea, but it is a fact of life.

The division is between the greedy assholes that thinks the government should steal stuff on their behalf and the people that the government will steal from. Like us taxpayers.

You mean you deadbeats that don't want to pay for the infrastructure and services you use?

Folks, we have identified the idiot.

Did I hit a soft spot? Do you need a safe space?

 

[Norman]

All this ridiculous verbiage about 'revolution' and social violence in America is absurd. It only makes the mundane seem important.
The 'wings' are tearing the whole of the nation into their imaginary halves.
There are the 'halves' and the 'halve-nots', those of us who do not believe in the binary, duopolistic division that serves only to degrade us all.

Yea, but it is a fact of life.

The division is between the greedy assholes that thinks the government should steal stuff on their behalf and the people that the government will steal from. Like us taxpayers.

You mean you deadbeats that don't want to pay for the infrastructure and services you use?

Folks, we have identified the idiot.

Did I hit a soft spot? Do you need a safe space?

Yes, the soft spot on the idiot detector. Can you not make your own threads to go troll? Your replies add nothing to the discussion. You purposefully misunderstand and twist the words of others knowing it fully well.