Democrats Never Met A Communist....

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

And NOW the LIES!

The Soviet Union collapsed because totalitarian Communism is fatally flawed.

You betcha'!!!


If only it had followed these simple rules: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Unfortunately, the same fate may await the United States for the same reason.

Reagan saved Social Security, remember? One of the top three best examples of Socialism in America?

lol, you people need to wake up and grow up.

Reagan raised taxes 11 times and raised the debt ceiling 18 times.

PC, do you need help getting that egg off your face? Those crow feathers out of your mouth? That bullet out of your foot?

Obama says Reagan raised debt ceiling 18 times; George W. Bush seven times
Obama says Reagan raised debt ceiling 18 times George W. Bush seven times PolitiFact

Ronald Reagan Myth Doesn't Square with Reality
Ronald Reagan Myth Doesn t Square with Reality - CBS News

Obama promised NO NEW TAXES, and added $7.5 TRILLION to our debt!!!

He probably should have raised taxes like Reagan did, 11 times. Read it and STFU.

Obama the Silent Tax Cutter
Obama Tax Cutter He Has Slashed More Than Bush Did in First Term - The Daily Beast

 

[Moonglow]

Those rabid Koch family members loved the USSR and Stalin, if not for Stalin, the Koch's would not be so rich and powerful...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The OP never met a straw man fallacy she didn't like.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Skulls of victims of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia.

How did the Khmer Rouge seize power in Cambodia?
"The relationship between the massive carpet bombing of Cambodia by the United States and the growth of the Khmer Rouge, in terms of recruitment and popular support, has been a matter of interest to historians.

"Some historians have cited the U.S. intervention and bombing campaign (spanning 1965–1973) as a significant factor leading to increased support of the Khmer Rouge among the Cambodian peasantry.[41]

"However, Pol Pot biographer David P. Chandler argues that the bombing 'had the effect the Americans wanted – it broke the Communist encirclement of Phnom Penh'.[42][43]

"Peter Rodman and Michael Lind claimed that the US intervention saved Cambodia from collapse in 1970 and 1973.[44][45]

"Craig Etcheson agreed that it was 'untenable' to assert that US intervention caused the Khmer Rouge victory while acknowledging that it may have played a small role in boosting recruitment for the insurgents.[46]

"William Shawcross, however, wrote that the US bombing and ground incursion plunged Cambodia into the chaos that Sihanouk had worked for years to avoid."
The same way IS took control of Mosul??
Khmer Rouge - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Again we were at WAR..............the Cambodians were supplying the enemy with weapons, food and more.............

In a WAR a KEY MILITARY STRATEGY is to hit the enemies supply lines......................The supply lines were there..................So we hit them.....................

Even with this, we again failed to fight it as a War..................had we driven our armies in MASS into North Vietnam they couldn't have stopped us..................instead we fought THEIR WAR and not ours...................

While the outcome due to Ideology may not have changed, all of VIETNAM would have fallen to our forces and the supply lines cut to ribbons................

At best, the North only had half the numbers we had there...........TET was MILITARILY A FAILURE as the North lost a lot of troops................

They sacrificed their men in a hopeless endeavor for POLITICAL REASONS............to get the American public to DEMAND that we leave.................and it WORKED................as the PC CULTURE refused to fight it as a WAR.....................

Another example of how politicians lose WARS..............

Same as the 1st Gulf WAR when we didn't finish Saddam off when we had a half a million forces at his doorstep.

And what was the point of our being in Vietnam in the first place?

The myth that we had to stop the Communists THERE before they could come HERE.
Such bullshit.

And today Vietnam is.....Surprise! A Communist country!

58,000 Americans and 100,000s of Vietnamese civilians died.

Fucking Republicans need to wake up. They really are sleep-walkers.

I never said that going there was the right thing to do...............I said it's under a different mindset than today, and your side uses the mindset of today to interpret history...............refusing to tr to see it in the context of the day....................

Vietnam was a mistake.................in my view..............No real national interests for the cost....................

But again, when you go to WAR.............FIGHT IT AS A WAR.................or you LOSE THE WAR...............

Understand now.

The mindset is the same. We invaded Iraq for the same goddamn reason, remember? And all we did was support a system through internment and prisoner camps that created ISIS and now a military coup attempt in Yemen.

 

[Moonglow]

I voted for Reagan and Bush I does that make me a half communist sympathizer?
By the vie, Americans have not been the savoir of the world either...

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many people were slaughtered in the name of the Pope during the religious wars in Europe? Too many to count...

The greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history:17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 =1,128,000,000
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings


Your turn, you dope.

Tell that to the 6k protestants killed in one day after Trent, by Papal decree, the Pope had many other Christians destroyed or exiled....Templar's, Jesuits,,,,,,,,just to name two....but after the reformation and counter reformation even royalty was killed, imprisoned or exiled over religious sects....fighting over domain of the Pope or freewill Protestants...

Tell what, you idiot????

I just gave you the numbers.

Instead, like any good Liberal, you ignore facts and continue with propaganda.


Ready to deny the 1,128,000,000 human beings slaughtered by the godless?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.

DEMOCRAT Harry Truman spent some 36,000 American lives keeping the Communist North Koreans out of South Korea.

If you support that Democratic President's actions, you have an odd way of showing it.

Democrats in the Truman White House spent most of their time keeping their ChiComs Masters up to date on our movements in Korea

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

How many people were slaughtered in the name of the Pope during the religious wars in Europe? Too many to count...

The greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history:17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 =1,128,000,000
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings


Your turn, you dope.

Tell that to the 6k protestants killed in one day after Trent, by Papal decree, the Pope had many other Christians destroyed or exiled....Templar's, Jesuits,,,,,,,,just to name two....but after the reformation and counter reformation even royalty was killed, imprisoned or exiled over religious sects....fighting over domain of the Pope or freewill Protestants...

Tell what, you idiot????

I just gave you the numbers.

Instead, like any good Liberal, you ignore facts and continue with propaganda.

Gave up on defending Bonzo, huh? Bahahahahaaa......

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP never met a straw man fallacy she didn't like.

C_Chamber_Pot....never ready nor able to dispute what I post.

More like the Eunuch in a Harem. He wants to, but just can’t.

 

[Moonglow]

How many people were slaughtered in the name of the Pope during the religious wars in Europe? Too many to count...

The greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history:17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 =1,128,000,000
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings


Your turn, you dope.

Tell that to the 6k protestants killed in one day after Trent, by Papal decree, the Pope had many other Christians destroyed or exiled....Templar's, Jesuits,,,,,,,,just to name two....but after the reformation and counter reformation even royalty was killed, imprisoned or exiled over religious sects....fighting over domain of the Pope or freewill Protestants...

Tell what, you idiot????

I just gave you the numbers.

Instead, like any good Liberal, you ignore facts and continue with propaganda.

There is no accurate numbers of dead from religious wars from the past..You can deny all you like, but the proof is there, Christain leaders and nations have no lived up to what Jesus spoke in how to deal with other people different than yourself...In fact, you do it everyday..You break Gods' commandments with the bile you post...and the words you type...
There is no love, no humility, no grace, nothing,,, you and others claim that Christians are...the peace of the world, yet you are no peacemaker..no blessing for you....

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

And as we speak John McCain is asking for "more boots on the ground" on Face the Nation. He's not saying WHERE these boots are supposed to go. Jesus, what a clusterphuck.

 

[TooTall]

99.9% of all national Democrats are communist! The last REAL DemocRAT left when Zell shut the door on them!

Yeah, Zell Miller, last of the old Southern conservative segregationist Democrats.

Yes, last DemocRAT patriot! But YOU, scum bucket say NOTHING about KKK Robert Byrd!!!

Segregation is patriotic?

Damn, I should start saving these USMB RWnut gems.

You said it asshole, I only point out how fucking stupid you are!

Zell Miller was working for Lester Maddox in the 60's.

Is this the Lester Maddox you refer to, or to the one that is portrayed in the NY Times? Lester was a segregationist but sure as hell didn't govern as one. Read the facts and then read the reviews of the true segregationists.

"In the 1966 campaign, the Savannah Morning News forecast that a Governor Maddox would "tell off the federal government forty times a day, but four years after his inauguration, he would have accomplished little else."

Once in office, however, Maddox accomplished the following:

· Salary increases (in dollars) during four years as governor were more than for the two previous administrations of Ernest Vandiver and Carl Sanders combined.

· Percentage of salary increase for elementary and secondary teachers was a record breaker unmatched for another seventeen years.

· In higher education, the State Board of Regents received the highest budget increase of the latter half of the 20th century. This was probably the largest percentage increase for higher education of any state during the four fiscal years of the Maddox-approved state budget appropriations.

· Dollars gained for new and expanded industry equaled far surpassed the period from 1947 through 1966.

· According to a letter written by Maddox in 1999, Maddox "left the Office of Governor with a favorable poll rating of above 84 percent and won the Office of Lieutenant Governor in a landslide vote of more than 73 percent, which remains the greatest percentage of votes for any governor or lieutenant governor against a Republican opponent in a Georgia general election".

· Maddox was favorably influenced by Murray M. Silver, Esq., General Counsel of the Georgia Department of Labor, and Commissioner Sam Caldwell to hire blacks and to approve legislation affecting unemployment insurance of automobile workers within the state.

· Maddox integrated the lines of farmer's markets throughout the state, and also urged state troopers to address blacks as Mr. or Mrs. instead of derogatory terms like "******." He also reformed Georgia's prisons and health care.

Years after Maddox's gubernatorial term ended, Republican Benjamin B. Blackburn described Maddox as a "far better governor than his critics will ever admit." Then a former U.S. representative, Blackburn noted that no claim of corruption arose against Maddox, whose administration was characterized by economic development and the appointment of African Americans to state executive positions.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many people were slaughtered in the name of the Pope during the religious wars in Europe? Too many to count...

The greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history:17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 =1,128,000,000
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings


Your turn, you dope.

Tell that to the 6k protestants killed in one day after Trent, by Papal decree, the Pope had many other Christians destroyed or exiled....Templar's, Jesuits,,,,,,,,just to name two....but after the reformation and counter reformation even royalty was killed, imprisoned or exiled over religious sects....fighting over domain of the Pope or freewill Protestants...

Tell what, you idiot????

I just gave you the numbers.

Instead, like any good Liberal, you ignore facts and continue with propaganda.

There is no accurate numbers of dead from religious wars from the past..You can deny all you like, but the proof is there, Christain leaders and nations have no lived up to what Jesus spoke in how to deal with other people different than yourself...In fact, you do it everyday..You break Gods' commandments with the bile you post...and the words you type...
There is no love, no humility, no grace, nothing,,, you and others claim that Christians are...the peace of the world, yet you are no peacemaker..no blessing for you....

When will you recognize that your resistance to the truth is based on having imbibed the propaganda of secular Liberalism, a spin-off of atheistic communism.

There is very little doubt about the numbers I gave you.

When you get around to educating yourself....I remain the eternal optimist, begin here:
"The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression," by Jean-Louis Panné and Andrzej Paczkowski
Fifty bucks...but your local library will have it.

 

[TooTall]

THANK YOU REPUBLICAN EXTREMIST...PRESIDENT RONALDO MAGMUS!

My GOD, you really are this stupid...a TRUE communist trait!

Reagan had nothing to do with it.

And NOW the LIES!

The Soviet Union collapsed because totalitarian Communism is fatally flawed.

You betcha'!!!


If only it had followed these simple rules: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Unfortunately, the same fate may await the United States for the same reason.

Reagan saved Social Security, remember? One of the top three best examples of Socialism in America?

lol, you people need to wake up and grow up.

Social Security is a government insurance program that only the government could screw up as badly as they have. The "I" in FICA stands for INSURANCE.

 

[natstew]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times

It's the same with all socialist/communist revolutions, same as it is with the Regime in the White House: The end justifies the means, no amount of lies matter as long as their agenda is advanced. No amount of lives lost matter as long as their agenda is advanced.
In reality, dishonesty is a requirement for them to stay in power and advance their agenda.



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just to, of all things, go back to the fundamental claim of this thread,

how many of you in fact agree with PoliticalChic's claim that EVERY DEMOCRAT ADORES EVERY COMMUNIST?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reagan had nothing to do with it.

And NOW the LIES!

The Soviet Union collapsed because totalitarian Communism is fatally flawed.

You betcha'!!!


If only it had followed these simple rules: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Unfortunately, the same fate may await the United States for the same reason.

Reagan saved Social Security, remember? One of the top three best examples of Socialism in America?

lol, you people need to wake up and grow up.

Social Security is a government insurance program that only the government could screw up as badly as they have. The "I" in FICA stands for INSURANCE.

1. it is socialist 2. Ronald Reagan saved it.

 

[Moonglow]

How many people were slaughtered in the name of the Pope during the religious wars in Europe? Too many to count...

The greatest acts of crime and killing have not been instigated by people professing to follow Jesus. The numbers:

• Judaism and Christianity throughout history:17,000,000
• Anti- or irreligious forces over the last 100 years:

6,000,000 + 9,000,000 + 40,000,000 + 24,000,000 + 25,000,000 + 22,000,000 + 2,000,000 + 1,000,000,000 =1,128,000,000
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings


Your turn, you dope.

Tell that to the 6k protestants killed in one day after Trent, by Papal decree, the Pope had many other Christians destroyed or exiled....Templar's, Jesuits,,,,,,,,just to name two....but after the reformation and counter reformation even royalty was killed, imprisoned or exiled over religious sects....fighting over domain of the Pope or freewill Protestants...

Tell what, you idiot????

I just gave you the numbers.

Instead, like any good Liberal, you ignore facts and continue with propaganda.

There is no accurate numbers of dead from religious wars from the past..You can deny all you like, but the proof is there, Christain leaders and nations have no lived up to what Jesus spoke in how to deal with other people different than yourself...In fact, you do it everyday..You break Gods' commandments with the bile you post...and the words you type...
There is no love, no humility, no grace, nothing,,, you and others claim that Christians are...the peace of the world, yet you are no peacemaker..no blessing for you....

When will you recognize that your resistance to the truth is based on having imbibed the propaganda of secular Liberalism, a spin-off of atheistic communism.

There is very little doubt about the numbers I gave you.

When you get around to educating yourself....I remain the eternal optimist, begin here:
"The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression," by Jean-Louis Panné and Andrzej Paczkowski
Fifty bucks...but your local library will have it.

I don't deny the killings done by communist, I also do not deny the killings done in the USA for land and resources that had other humans already living on the land..It's a cruel world....All nations and all peoples at one time in history has killed for the wrong reasons, it seems to be a human trait...

 

[Moonglow]

Just to, of all things, go back to the fundamental claim of this thread,

how many of you in fact agree with PoliticalChic's claim that EVERY DEMOCRAT ADORES EVERY COMMUNIST?

I don't even know any personally.....But if I liked a female from a communist nation, I'd still hit it...

 

[TooTall]

Skulls of victims of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia.

How did the Khmer Rouge seize power in Cambodia?
"The relationship between the massive carpet bombing of Cambodia by the United States and the growth of the Khmer Rouge, in terms of recruitment and popular support, has been a matter of interest to historians.

"Some historians have cited the U.S. intervention and bombing campaign (spanning 1965–1973) as a significant factor leading to increased support of the Khmer Rouge among the Cambodian peasantry.[41]

"However, Pol Pot biographer David P. Chandler argues that the bombing 'had the effect the Americans wanted – it broke the Communist encirclement of Phnom Penh'.[42][43]

"Peter Rodman and Michael Lind claimed that the US intervention saved Cambodia from collapse in 1970 and 1973.[44][45]

"Craig Etcheson agreed that it was 'untenable' to assert that US intervention caused the Khmer Rouge victory while acknowledging that it may have played a small role in boosting recruitment for the insurgents.[46]

"William Shawcross, however, wrote that the US bombing and ground incursion plunged Cambodia into the chaos that Sihanouk had worked for years to avoid."
The same way IS took control of Mosul??
Khmer Rouge - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Again we were at WAR..............the Cambodians were supplying the enemy with weapons, food and more.............

In a WAR a KEY MILITARY STRATEGY is to hit the enemies supply lines......................The supply lines were there..................So we hit them.....................

Even with this, we again failed to fight it as a War..................had we driven our armies in MASS into North Vietnam they couldn't have stopped us..................instead we fought THEIR WAR and not ours...................

While the outcome due to Ideology may not have changed, all of VIETNAM would have fallen to our forces and the supply lines cut to ribbons................

At best, the North only had half the numbers we had there...........TET was MILITARILY A FAILURE as the North lost a lot of troops................

They sacrificed their men in a hopeless endeavor for POLITICAL REASONS............to get the American public to DEMAND that we leave.................and it WORKED................as the PC CULTURE refused to fight it as a WAR.....................

Another example of how politicians lose WARS..............

Same as the 1st Gulf WAR when we didn't finish Saddam off when we had a half a million forces at his doorstep.

And what was the point of our being in Vietnam in the first place?

The myth that we had to stop the Communists THERE before they could come HERE.
Such bullshit.

And today Vietnam is.....Surprise! A Communist country!

58,000 Americans and 100,000s of Vietnamese civilians died.

Fucking Republicans need to wake up. They really are sleep-walkers.

You may want to take that up with JFK and LBJ who were Democrats and started and expanded the Vietnam war. Nixon, and Ford who were Republicans ended it. Maybe you need to wake up.