Democrats PTSD After Mid-Terms

[Bush92]

Obstructionist...like saying "we have to pass the bill before we can read it?" guess this blocked any real debate on Obamacare. Gee, how many bills sitting on Harry Reids desk from the House?

 

[JFK_USA]

It makes no difference HOW MANY people voted. Those that cared enough voted and sent GOP to Washington with a clear mandate.

So I guess the Democrats' approach should be, if fair is fair, to use every tool of obstruction the minority in the legislature has available,

since that is what the GOP did after the Democrats got a genuine mandate in the 2008 elections.

Fair enough?

You mean like altering Senate rules on confirmation of federal judges?

You think Democrats are going to give you want you want while yo did NOTHING for them? Yeah ok.....

 

[Iceweasel]

to use every tool of obstruction the minority in the legislature has available.

What is your evidence that Republicans did that?

A record number of filibusters, for starters. Want to dispute that?

Reid Democrats trigger nuclear option eliminate most filibusters on nominees - The Washington Post
Democrats said the attempted filibusters of Chuck Hagel during his confirmation hearing to become defense secretary, a first for any nominee to lead the Pentagon — as well as a blockade of picks to head the National Labor Relations Board and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau — exceeded anything Democrats did when they were in the minority. In addition, Democrats charged that Republicans didn’t even have substantive objections to the D.C. Circuit nominees they filibustered.

After the vote, Obama told reporters at the White House that Republicans had turned nomination fights into a “reckless and relentless tool” to grind the gears of government to a halt and noted that “neither party has been blameless for these tactics.” However, he said, “today’s pattern of obstruction . . . just isn’t normal; it’s not what our founders envisioned.”

Republicans countered that they had confirmed 99 percent of Obama’s judicial selections. McConnell accused Democrats of eyeing the D.C. Circuit in an effort to stack the court, which reviews many cases related to federal laws and regulations, to tilt its balance in a liberal direction.

What made the day so historic for senators, former senators and the small collection of parliamentary experts in Washington was the simple majority vote used to execute the changes — a tactic so extreme it is known as the “nuclear option.”

Previous majorities had threatened to upend filibuster rules in this manner, but relying on a simple majority vote had been used only for relatively minor procedural changes to how amendments were handled, never to eliminate the supermajority requirement altogether. Before Thursday, the standard precedent was that major rule changes needed a two-thirds majority. The change was so significant that Reid and his leadership team held a victory party with liberal activists afterward in a room just off the Senate floor.

Republicans said the way Democrats upended the rules will result in fallout for years. “It’s another raw exercise of political power to permit the majority to do anything it wants whenever it wants to do it,” Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), the GOP’s parliamentary expert, told reporters.

Republicans vowed to reciprocate if they reclaim the majority.

 

[Bush92]

It makes no difference HOW MANY people voted. Those that cared enough voted and sent GOP to Washington with a clear mandate.

So I guess the Democrats' approach should be, if fair is fair, to use every tool of obstruction the minority in the legislature has available,

since that is what the GOP did after the Democrats got a genuine mandate in the 2008 elections.

Fair enough?

You mean like altering Senate rules on confirmation of federal judges?

You think Democrats are going to give you want you want while yo did NOTHING for them? Yeah ok.....

I seem to recall this thing called a mid-term election where GOP gained control of both houses of Congress. You must have missed it when you were smoking dope and playing video games.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

It makes no difference HOW MANY people voted. Those that cared enough voted and sent GOP to Washington with a clear mandate.

So I guess the Democrats' approach should be, if fair is fair, to use every tool of obstruction the minority in the legislature has available,

since that is what the GOP did after the Democrats got a genuine mandate in the 2008 elections.

Fair enough?

There are no tools of obstruction for the minority anymore, because you Dems used the nuclear option.

Congrats.

 

[Siete]

and the beat goes on and on and on and on and on and on .................................
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