Democrats SUE to stop Arizona Senate from forensic audit of 2020 election

[struth]

i have no problem with the court hearing case involving the legislature they aren’t above rhe law

Apparently the legislature thinks they're above the law because their response to the court is that they don't have jurisdiction.

claiming a court doesn’t have jurisdiction doesn’t mean they are above the law. It’s a legal argument. Not all Courts have jurisdiction over everything all the time.

Either way, the case was litigated. The Court Ordered payment by the dems, or the audit to go forward. The audit is going forward

 

[progressive hunter]

what's their issue? Are you saying the repubs didn't have a right to challenge?

Challenges by law were to happen a long time ago. Those challenges failed.

This is an audit ordered under the subpoena power of the State Senate, which is basically outside the regular challenges. Still, the laws about how ballots are to be handled need to comply with the law and the agency doing the audit has been extremely cagey about what their policies and procedures are.

cagey to you maybe,, but youre an idiot scared shitless of what might be found,,

and did you just confirm the laws dont say how audits are done but just how ballots are handled??

 

[struth]

the court had no issue with the firm.

Not specifically with the firm but it did take issue with some of the policies, which is an outgrowth of the firm's inexperience.

more doublespeak...the Court took no issue with the firm and they are auditing away and have already discovered issues. The people of Arizona should be thrilled

 

[jc456]

what's their issue? Are you saying the repubs didn't have a right to challenge?

Challenges by law were to happen a long time ago. Those challenges failed.

This is an audit ordered under the subpoena power of the State Senate, which is basically outside the regular challenges. Still, the laws about how ballots are to be handled need to comply with the law and the agency doing the audit has been extremely cagey about what their policies and procedures are.

those challenges were rejected. that isn't the law. I keep telling you that, if a monitor challenges a ballot it is supposed to be taken care of, not rejected outright and then that person removed from the building.

 

[colfax_m]

claiming a court doesn’t have jurisdiction doesn’t mean they are above the law. It’s a legal argument. Not all Courts have jurisdiction over everything all the time.

It does really, if you are immune from lawsuits then it's kind of hard to be subject to the law.

 

[jc456]

claiming a court doesn’t have jurisdiction doesn’t mean they are above the law. It’s a legal argument. Not all Courts have jurisdiction over everything all the time.

It does really, if you are immune from lawsuits then it's kind of hard to be subject to the law.

but it was explained to you, it seems you can't comprehend what happened.

 

[progressive hunter]

claiming a court doesn’t have jurisdiction doesn’t mean they are above the law. It’s a legal argument. Not all Courts have jurisdiction over everything all the time.

It does really, if you are immune from lawsuits then it's kind of hard to be subject to the law.

who said they are immune?? the dems are sueing them now to stop them,,

 

[colfax_m]

more doublespeak...the Court took no issue with the firm and they are auditing away and have already discovered issues. The people of Arizona should be thrilled

Can you show me what issues they've found? I know the audit is underway but haven't seen any releases from the auditors about what they've found.

 

[colfax_m]

who said they are immune?? the dems are sueing them now to stop them,,

What happened Friday in AZ Senate election audit of Maricopa County (azcentral.com)

Like I said, an inordinate amount of time educating you.

 

[progressive hunter]

who said they are immune?? the dems are sueing them now to stop them,,

What happened Friday in AZ Senate election audit of Maricopa County (azcentral.com)

Like I said, an inordinate amount of time educating you.

so you are wrong and they can be sued,,

 

[colfax_m]

those challenges were rejected. that isn't the law. I keep telling you that, if a monitor challenges a ballot it is supposed to be taken care of, not rejected outright and then that person removed from the building.

Those challenges were rejected in accordance with law. They were taken care of.

 

[struth]

claiming a court doesn’t have jurisdiction doesn’t mean they are above the law. It’s a legal argument. Not all Courts have jurisdiction over everything all the time.

It does really, if you are immune from lawsuits then it's kind of hard to be subject to the law.

who said anything about immunity? jurisdiction doesn’t mean immunity.

 

[jc456]

those challenges were rejected. that isn't the law. I keep telling you that, if a monitor challenges a ballot it is supposed to be taken care of, not rejected outright and then that person removed from the building.

Those challenges were rejected in accordance with law. They were taken care of.

nope, they weren't. we wouldn't be here if they had. you still don't get it. you just think people created affidavits for fun? if one fking ballot is invalid, validates this process.

 

[colfax_m]

so you are wrong and they can be sued,,

I was not wrong. It was indeed the claim by the legislature's attorney that they are immune from lawsuits.

 

[colfax_m]

who said anything about immunity? jurisdiction doesn’t mean immunity.

As I stated earlier, the Arizona Legislature's response to the lawsuit was to claim immunity from the lawsuit.
What happened Friday in AZ Senate election audit of Maricopa County (azcentral.com)

 

[progressive hunter]

so you are wrong and they can be sued,,

I was not wrong. It was indeed the claim by the legislature's attorney that they are immune from lawsuits.

A claim is not reality,, and the reality is they got sued

 

[struth]

more doublespeak...the Court took no issue with the firm and they are auditing away and have already discovered issues. The people of Arizona should be thrilled

Can you show me what issues they've found? I know the audit is underway but haven't seen any releases from the auditors about what they've found.

there is a thread about the 200k plus issues with ballots on this website

 

[jc456]

more doublespeak...the Court took no issue with the firm and they are auditing away and have already discovered issues. The people of Arizona should be thrilled

Can you show me what issues they've found? I know the audit is underway but haven't seen any releases from the auditors about what they've found.

there is a thread about the 200k plus issues with ballots on this website

he still doesn't get that a mail in ballot that isn't folded is illegal. perhaps he could tell us how it got sent out unfolded. I'd really like that education.

 

[colfax_m]

A claim is not reality,, and the reality is they got sued

The fact that the claim happened makes it reality. Whether it's a good claim or not, that's what the judge decides.

 

[colfax_m]

there is a thread about the 200k plus issues with ballots on this website

I think you might have jumped threads, or maybe it was merged with another thread.

The claim about 200k plus issues with ballots does not come from the auditors, it's a rehash of prior claims. At least, as far as I can tell. The source of the claim seems pretty hard to figure out, which is a giant red flag.