Democrats Win Both Open House Seats (One for 1st Time Since 1852)

[Harry Dresden]

From KTV News:
California Lt. Governor John Garamendi has easily won a special election for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

The District 10 seat he will fill belonged to incumbent Democrat Ellen Tauscher who took a position within the State Department.
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And from the Times Union:
ALBANY -- Democrat Bill Owens won the 23rd Congressional District seat despite a strong push by Conservatives to take the post in the heavily Republican North Country area.


Trailing Owens by over 6,000 votes, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman conceded the race just after midnight Wednesday.
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So - in both the open seat in Congress, the Democrats won, including picking up another seat to add to the hefty Democratic majority - the New York's 23rd district, which has been in Republican hands since 1852.

I'd like to personally thank Sarah Palin for making the Democratic pick-up of District 23 possible, seeing how running Hoffman as a 3rd-party candidate split the Republican vote. Please, please, PLEASE run her as your candidate in 2012, Republicans. We're begging you !!



Enjoy governing New Jersey, in the meantime - remember, it's the "garden state", ROFLMAO

yea thats great....another person with his head up Pelosi's ass gets in.....wonderful....the guy was not a good ins commissioner while one....yea we are getting quality people...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Democrats Win Both Open House Seats (One for 1st Time Since 1852)

Allowing one party to control the United States is no reason to celebrate.

to the far right and left X....that is a good thing.........

 

[CrusaderFrank]

and even with a majority the dems still can't push their agenda through.....is still fighting two wars and is spending money they don't have.....

*LOL*

You mean the same two wars that Bush/Cheney spent 7 years and 5 years fighting, respectively, without winning either one (or even capturing OBL?)

Or are you talking about Bush? I'm confused - since every budget bill signed by Bush, eight of them in all, had enormous built-in deficits, so that he and his Republican congress could spend money they didn't have.

Wow, it takes a certain combination of giant balls and complete amnesia to post that, lol.

As for pushing his agenda thru - President Obama and the Democratic Congress were a little busy the first six months trying to avert a total economic collapse left in their laps by Bush & Company, who left office with the economy in free-fall and the Dow Jones average at about 8,000. Lower than when he came into office EIGHT YEARS EARLIER.

Plus, now that it seems like the Democrats actually did manage to prevent an economic meltdown (like anybody would have wanted McCain or Palin trying to pull that off, gawd!), some sort of health-care reform along the lines of what Obama campaigned is looking pretty certain to pass.

He's withdrawing from Iraq along the time-table he proposed last year.

And he's done it all without invading anybody on the basis of totally made-up bullshit about "weapons of mass destruction".

But, but....Bush proclaimed "Mission Accomplished"????

Dems lie, but thats outright totally fucking dishonest

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let's review: 6 weeks ago Obama was well on his way to picking up a sure vote for ObamaCare and crushing the US Economy with Cap & Trade. Then a THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE stepped in. He had no funding, no name recognition and got the RINO to bow out and came within 4% of getting elected.

The RNC Provided the margin of victory for Obama

 

[Wry Catcher]

From KTV News:
California Lt. Governor John Garamendi has easily won a special election for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

The District 10 seat he will fill belonged to incumbent Democrat Ellen Tauscher who took a position within the State Department.
_________________________________
And from the Times Union:
ALBANY -- Democrat Bill Owens won the 23rd Congressional District seat despite a strong push by Conservatives to take the post in the heavily Republican North Country area.


Trailing Owens by over 6,000 votes, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman conceded the race just after midnight Wednesday.
_________________________________



So - in both the open seat in Congress, the Democrats won, including picking up another seat to add to the hefty Democratic majority - the New York's 23rd district, which has been in Republican hands since 1852.

I'd like to personally thank Sarah Palin for making the Democratic pick-up of District 23 possible, seeing how running Hoffman as a 3rd-party candidate split the Republican vote. Please, please, PLEASE run her as your candidate in 2012, Republicans. We're begging you !!



Enjoy governing New Jersey, in the meantime - remember, it's the "garden state", ROFLMAO

yea thats great....another person with his head up Pelosi's ass gets in.....wonderful....the guy was not a good ins commissioner while one....yea we are getting quality people...

Sour grapes, anyone?

 

[Andrew2382]

Congratulations to Sarah Palin for blowing what should have been an easy pick up for the Republicans. Go Sarah!

LOL

The "Republican" Candidate backed the Dem, so Hoffman ran against 2 Democrats

Ummm, AND lost. Even with Sarah (the Interbet Blogger) Palin's backing.

Hoffman was thrown together last minute and wasn't exactly the ideal candidate. The repub who baled out was all but forced to because she was so left of center is was beyond belief...she was much more liberal then republican.

They ran her because Owens was suppose to be this moderate lib so they wanted to run this moderate republican and that isn't what they got from her...they got another left leaning idiot so that's where Hoffman came in.

Sure it was a win for the democrats but it shows more of a sign of RNC chaos going on up there then a democratic stronghold taking over the region

And sorry to break it to ya.

Palin backing Hoffman and losing is NO WHERE NEAR AS BAD as the Messiah President Barack yes we can Obama backing Corzine and visiting the State 6 times and still losing to a republican.

 

[Wry Catcher]

*LOL*

You mean the same two wars that Bush/Cheney spent 7 years and 5 years fighting, respectively, without winning either one (or even capturing OBL?)

Or are you talking about Bush? I'm confused - since every budget bill signed by Bush, eight of them in all, had enormous built-in deficits, so that he and his Republican congress could spend money they didn't have.

Wow, it takes a certain combination of giant balls and complete amnesia to post that, lol.

As for pushing his agenda thru - President Obama and the Democratic Congress were a little busy the first six months trying to avert a total economic collapse left in their laps by Bush & Company, who left office with the economy in free-fall and the Dow Jones average at about 8,000. Lower than when he came into office EIGHT YEARS EARLIER.

Plus, now that it seems like the Democrats actually did manage to prevent an economic meltdown (like anybody would have wanted McCain or Palin trying to pull that off, gawd!), some sort of health-care reform along the lines of what Obama campaigned is looking pretty certain to pass.

He's withdrawing from Iraq along the time-table he proposed last year.

And he's done it all without invading anybody on the basis of totally made-up bullshit about "weapons of mass destruction".

But, but....Bush proclaimed "Mission Accomplished"????

Dems lie, but thats outright totally fucking dishonest

That is a true account of history Frank, if you believe otherwise post evidence to disprove it. And, no extra points are awarded for the word "fuck", it doesn't make your 'argument' stronger nor make you appear more intelligent than a box of rocks.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, let's do a little analysis of this election. A President is expected to campaign for the incumbents that are of his party, even when he knows that their defeat is likely. In fact, if he fails to do this, he loses credibility within his own party.

When you have a lockup district for your party, you don't endorse a third party candidate and throw that district to the other party. Not if you expect to have a viable party at the next election cycle.

It looks to me like the Republicans will need a very big tent for the next meeting. Going to be lots of daggers and claymores in action.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But, but....Bush proclaimed "Mission Accomplished"????

Dems lie, but thats outright totally fucking dishonest

That is a true account of history Frank, if you believe otherwise post evidence to disprove it. And, no extra points are awarded for the word "fuck", it doesn't make your 'argument' stronger nor make you appear more intelligent than a box of rocks.

Mission Accomplished referred to the mission of the CVN-72. Only a lying nitwit would think Bush was saying the war ended.

 

[ayiakri]

Well, let's do a little analysis of this election. A President is expected to campaign for the incumbents that are of his party, even when he knows that their defeat is likely. In fact, if he fails to do this, he loses credibility within his own party.

When you have a lockup district for your party, you don't endorse a third party candidate and throw that district to the other party. Not if you expect to have a viable party at the next election cycle.

It looks to me like the Republicans will need a very big tent for the next meeting. Going to be lots of daggers and claymores in action.

We're already seeing the glint of the knives stabbing 'round the back area in a few places. I reckon eventually the GOP's "leadership" (whoever the rank and file eventually decide to follow, when some decent choices arise) will ultimately steer the party back towards the middle on social issues, and try to re-brand a bit as socially-tolerant fiscal conservatives.

Sorta like, "compassionate conservatism" without the bogus compassion bit, and some genuine pragmatism thrown in. America is, after all, becoming steadily more socially-liberal: desegregation of schools was "controversial" once... Then the last ban on inter-racial marriages was struck down in 1967 - and rate of mixed-ethnicity marriages has been doubling every decade since. We've gone from an outright ban on gays in the military to "don't ask, don't tell", and probably within a year, it will no longer even be that. In 1980, the idea that conservatives would even be fighting against same-sex marriages - much less the idea that they'd lost the fight in several states - only a generation or so later would have been deemed crazy.

I actually remember Republicans vowing to tear down Medicare, and more recently to privatize Social Security - both efforts failed, and GOP Senators now are left to attack Democrats' health-care proposals by hinting darkly that the plans will "destroy medicare" - the very system they were promising to dismantle a generation or two ago.

In 1990, the idea that either political party would run, as their two main primary candidates, a woman and a black man, would have been so ridiculous that I'm pretty sure a few comedy movies starring, oh, say Eddie Murphy, or Chris Rock, would have played in theaters making fun of the idea (and "Head of State" was in theaters in 2003... doh!)

Even abortion, the one issue that seems to galvanize social-conservatives even more than the idea of two women legally shacking up, remains legal, despite almost 35 years of social-conservatives doing everything from fighting it in the courts, with legislation, or occasionally murdering somebody, to try to stop it. Wherever you come down on the issue, it's clearly not one that the GOP has managed to actually win.

All of these issues - whichever party championed them at the time (and principled Republicans helped pass the Civil Rights Act) were, at their core, liberal issues, being pushed by liberals, in pursuit of personal liberty.

Maybe I'm just totally mis-reading history, but I'm left with the distinct feeling that the GOP is going to have to regroup under fiscal conservatism if they want to remain relevant. Right or wrong, Americans seem to be slowly, with two steps forward for one step back, moving to social liberalism.

 

[Xenophon]

This thread is absolutely dilussional.

An unknown funny looking bookworm nearly won a seat in congress based on less then a month of campaigning, and Democrats crow about it?

Anyone really into politics knows the Dems are shaking right now, they lost the govs in two major states that went blue last election.

This thread is a classic example of spin doctoring.

 

[Harry Dresden]

From KTV News:
California Lt. Governor John Garamendi has easily won a special election for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

The District 10 seat he will fill belonged to incumbent Democrat Ellen Tauscher who took a position within the State Department.
_________________________________
And from the Times Union:
ALBANY -- Democrat Bill Owens won the 23rd Congressional District seat despite a strong push by Conservatives to take the post in the heavily Republican North Country area.


Trailing Owens by over 6,000 votes, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman conceded the race just after midnight Wednesday.
_________________________________



So - in both the open seat in Congress, the Democrats won, including picking up another seat to add to the hefty Democratic majority - the New York's 23rd district, which has been in Republican hands since 1852.

I'd like to personally thank Sarah Palin for making the Democratic pick-up of District 23 possible, seeing how running Hoffman as a 3rd-party candidate split the Republican vote. Please, please, PLEASE run her as your candidate in 2012, Republicans. We're begging you !!



Enjoy governing New Jersey, in the meantime - remember, it's the "garden state", ROFLMAO

yea thats great....another person with his head up Pelosi's ass gets in.....wonderful....the guy was not a good ins commissioner while one....yea we are getting quality people...

Sour grapes, anyone?

yea under this jerk insurance rates kept going up in spite of him promising not to let that happen....but to idiots like Rocks and Wry....2 guys who are so down on ins. Companies because of their rising rates and fucking people over....and yet here they are praising another asswipe politician JUST BECAUSE he is as left as they are.....never mind what the guy does while in office...and yet both of you claim to be for the people and whats good for the country....MY FUCKING ASS....both of you two strunges are only for one thing....the Ultra Left...and ANYONE who thinks like you do.......two phonies personified....

 

[Harry Dresden]

This thread is a classic example of spin doctoring.

its a classic example of 2 phonies who claim to be for the country( Wry and Old Dildo) who could care less about the country.....there is the Spin....praising Garibaldi getting in proved that to me....

 

[ayiakri]

As the person who started the thread, I'm pretty sure the main intent (which was mine) was to point out the tactical win by the Democrats, increasing their House majority from 256 to 258 (the two newest members were sworn in last week).

Winning these two seats - including the pick-up of the seat in NY's 23rd district - gave the Democrats enough votes to let the "blue dogs" vote against the bill, and still pass it, albeit with a narrow margin.

I'm under no illusions about NY 23 - it's going back to Republican hands in the next normal election (next fall), almost certainly, but the way the GOP handled the whole thing - first supporting Scozzafava, then pressuring her out and supporting Hoffman - handed the Dems a tactical victory literally days before they really needed every vote they could muster.

There's not much "spin" there - it was a one-time deal, unless there is a continuing intra-party revolt in the GOP, in which case we might see a few more split-decisions resulting in Democratic wins next fall. That is completely up the Republicans, and it might not happen.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

and even with a majority the dems still can't push their agenda through.....is still fighting two wars and is spending money they don't have.....

*LOL*

You mean the same two wars that Bush/Cheney spent 7 years and 5 years fighting, respectively, without winning either one (or even capturing OBL?)

Or are you talking about Bush? I'm confused - since every budget bill signed by Bush, eight of them in all, had enormous built-in deficits, so that he and his Republican congress could spend money they didn't have.

Wow, it takes a certain combination of giant balls and complete amnesia to post that, lol.

As for pushing his agenda thru - President Obama and the Democratic Congress were a little busy the first six months trying to avert a total economic collapse left in their laps by Bush & Company, who left office with the economy in free-fall and the Dow Jones average at about 8,000. Lower than when he came into office EIGHT YEARS EARLIER.

Plus, now that it seems like the Democrats actually did manage to prevent an economic meltdown (like anybody would have wanted McCain or Palin trying to pull that off, gawd!), some sort of health-care reform along the lines of what Obama campaigned is looking pretty certain to pass.

He's withdrawing from Iraq along the time-table he proposed last year.
And he's done it all without invading anybody on the basis of totally made-up bullshit about "weapons of mass destruction".

You stupid ass!!!! Bush negotiated the troop withdrawal timetable long before Obama came into office.

Nice try at revisionist history though..

NEXT!!

 

[ayiakri]

and even with a majority the dems still can't push their agenda through.....is still fighting two wars and is spending money they don't have.....

*LOL*

You mean the same two wars that Bush/Cheney spent 7 years and 5 years fighting, respectively, without winning either one (or even capturing OBL?)

Or are you talking about Bush? I'm confused - since every budget bill signed by Bush, eight of them in all, had enormous built-in deficits, so that he and his Republican congress could spend money they didn't have.

Wow, it takes a certain combination of giant balls and complete amnesia to post that, lol.

As for pushing his agenda thru - President Obama and the Democratic Congress were a little busy the first six months trying to avert a total economic collapse left in their laps by Bush & Company, who left office with the economy in free-fall and the Dow Jones average at about 8,000. Lower than when he came into office EIGHT YEARS EARLIER.

Plus, now that it seems like the Democrats actually did manage to prevent an economic meltdown (like anybody would have wanted McCain or Palin trying to pull that off, gawd!), some sort of health-care reform along the lines of what Obama campaigned is looking pretty certain to pass.

He's withdrawing from Iraq along the time-table he proposed last year.
And he's done it all without invading anybody on the basis of totally made-up bullshit about "weapons of mass destruction".

You stupid ass!!!! Bush negotiated the troop withdrawal timetable long before Obama came into office.

Nice try at revisionist history though..

NEXT!!

You stupid ass!!! Obama proposed withdrawing from Iraq long before Bush even negotiated a timetable while in office.

Nice try at revisionist history though...

NEXT!!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

*LOL*

You mean the same two wars that Bush/Cheney spent 7 years and 5 years fighting, respectively, without winning either one (or even capturing OBL?)

Or are you talking about Bush? I'm confused - since every budget bill signed by Bush, eight of them in all, had enormous built-in deficits, so that he and his Republican congress could spend money they didn't have.

Wow, it takes a certain combination of giant balls and complete amnesia to post that, lol.

As for pushing his agenda thru - President Obama and the Democratic Congress were a little busy the first six months trying to avert a total economic collapse left in their laps by Bush & Company, who left office with the economy in free-fall and the Dow Jones average at about 8,000. Lower than when he came into office EIGHT YEARS EARLIER.

Plus, now that it seems like the Democrats actually did manage to prevent an economic meltdown (like anybody would have wanted McCain or Palin trying to pull that off, gawd!), some sort of health-care reform along the lines of what Obama campaigned is looking pretty certain to pass.

He's withdrawing from Iraq along the time-table he proposed last year.
And he's done it all without invading anybody on the basis of totally made-up bullshit about "weapons of mass destruction".

You stupid ass!!!! Bush negotiated the troop withdrawal timetable long before Obama came into office.

Nice try at revisionist history though..

NEXT!!

You stupid ass!!! Obama proposed withdrawing from Iraq long before Bush even negotiated a timetable while in office.

Nice try at revisionist history though...

NEXT!!

You stupid ass...Obama's proposal didn't MEAN SHIT!!! Bush negotiated...get over it.

 

[ayiakri]

You stupid ass - Bush's negotiation didn't mean shit, Obama's the one who's executing the phased withdrawal, exactly as he proposed in 2007.

NEXT!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I had no idea a proposal by a Junior Senator was binding the US military.

How did Obama's predication about the Surge hold up?

 

[Missourian]

Congratulations to Sarah Palin for blowing what should have been an easy pick up for the Republicans. Go Sarah!

LOL

The "Republican" Candidate backed the Dem, so Hoffman ran against 2 Democrats

That's what happens when Sarah gets involved. She so beloved by Republicans that as McCain's running mate she helped him lose Indiana and South Carolina.

Do you have any idea what it takes to lose Indiana when you're a Republican? In Indiana, even the Democrats are Republicans. Even with that going for them, McCain/Palin lost in Indiana.

Prior to last night, SarahBots could spin the 2008 loss as McCain's fault. In NY23 Sarah bet the farm and put her reputation behind a losing candidate. Just like in Indiana, she was so beloved by the GOP in the area they crossed party lines to support the Democrat!

That's why she's the Democrats dream candidate for PotUS in 2012. Sarah may be loved by the far right, but she drives the moderates and independents right into the arms of the Democrats. Without the Moderates and Independents you lose. Ask Hoffman and McCain.

Let me get this straight.

Sarah Palin, with the power of no office, has the guts to back a no name candidate with no party backing and he damn near pulls off an upset...and that makes Palin look bad.

While on the other hand The President of the United States, Barack Obama backs the incumbent Democrat Governor of New Jersey, backed by all the power of his office and the National, State and local DNC, in a state with nearly twice as many registered Democrats as registered Republicans, and they still couldn't come up with a win.







You should have connected the dots before posting this.

Shame on you for making the Messiah look bad.