Dems hate voter suppression but want to deprive entire states of their right to vote via the compact

[alang1216]

Lol
Na, not really
Rural America would lose every single presidential election... because the numbers just are not there. Fact

Fact: there are rural Americans in every state. Do rural CA or NY voters now have a meaningful voice? Getting rid of the winner take all EC would give them one.

 

[Rustic]

Lol
Na, not really
Rural America would lose every single presidential election... because the numbers just are not there. Fact

Fact: there are rural Americans in every state. Do rural CA or NY voters now have a meaningful voice? Getting rid of the winner take all EC would give them one.

That why this is supposed to be an republic, Founding fathers were genius.

They knew without the electoral college urban America would just roll over rural America.
Like I said the numbers are not there… Not even close

 

[Hutch Starskey]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

 

[The Original Tree]

What voter fraud? Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem. Ask the task force that Trump put together after the election and then quietly dissolved when they found nothing.

Estimated that 5 Million Illegal Aliens voted in the last election do to Motor Voter Registration in states where Illegal Aliens are Illegally give Drivers Licenses by Democrat Lead Governments.

Who estimated? You?

It's a made up figure the Rube Herd actually bleevs without a shred of evidence.

The Truth is, that The Democrat Party has been trying to steal America from Americans for the last few decades. This is why they oppose voter ID, and why they fight tooth and nail to keep a simple question of "are you an American citizen?" off of The Census.

They don't want us to know how many illegal aliens are here, and they don't want us to know how many of them illegally vote in our elections, and illegally help Leftist States steal Federal Tax Dollars off of Red States, and defraud them of their proper and legitimate representation in Congress.

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016 | Investor's Business Daily

But, in fact, it's almost certain that illegals did vote — and in significant numbers. Whether it was three million or not is another question.

While states control the voter registration process, some states are so notoriously slipshod in their controls (California, Virginia and New York — all of which have political movements to legalize voting by noncitizens — come to mind) that it would be shocking if many illegals didn'tvote. Remember, a low-ball estimate says there are at least 11 million to 12 million illegals in the U.S., but that's based on faulty Census data. More likely estimates put the number at 20 million to 30 million.

What's disappointing is that instead of at least seriously considering Trump's charge, many media reports merely parrot leftist talking points and anti-Trump rhetoric by pushing the idea that Republicans and others not of the progressive left who seek to limit voting to citizens only are racist, xenophobic nuts.

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

The study this is based on begins:

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections.​

I found:

"There’s zero evidence of even dozens, let alone millions, of non citizens voting in this or any other election," said according to David Becker, the executive director of the Center for Election Innovation & Research, a non-profit focused on election integrity.​

Because they are Registering Illegals to Vote dimtard. And they cannot be registered to vote unless they have a Drivers License which Left Tard Dem Nazi States give Illegals. That itself is Illegal to do.

And No Drivers License says "Illegal Alien" on it, and neither does any Motor Voter registration. They are registering Illegals by The Millions, and will continue to do this and defraud American Citizens at The Polls until someone stops them.

 

[The Original Tree]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

But States like California that game the system and register illegals to vote would be defrauding the rest of the country of it's right to representation, and defrauding the voters, and would continue to steal Federal Tax Dollars from other states.

Until Motor Voter Registration is banned, and Voter ID is made law, the only protection against a Lawless State is The Electoral College.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”

Why? Because the black voters are oppressed? The Democrats are the ones that are oppressed. They manipulate the blacks into think they can get FREE stuff!! But yet, when it comes to their own neighborhoods, they don't want to "fix it".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces98/stories/keydem080398.htm

The Democrats should fear Black Loyalty.

Trump has over 42% of the black vote TODAY...If he keeps this economy going that number and the numbers of others like Latinos will continue to rise. That is why every single Dem is screaming at the top of their lungs the word "racist" about everything Trump does. Dems are losing their hold on these minorities because Trump is giving them results. They are scared shitless!

42%?
No.
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[Rustic]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

A pure popular vote is mob rule... fact

 

[The Original Tree]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

A pure popular vote is mob rule... fact

It's also the easiest to commit voter fraud in. You just stuff ballot boxes.

 

[Dragonlady]

It is not suppressing the entire state, some of the state will have voted for the winner of the popular vote.

I would say that our current system of winner take all for EC votes does just as much to suppress votes. Think about it, in your state your vote and that of 4.4 million other people did not count at all towards your states EV votes.

Actually

Everyone’s vote would count as ONE vote for the candidate. Regardless of which state you live in

Nope. That would make us a democracy and not a republic.

Disastrous.

Mob rule.

No thanks.

We would still be a Republic with the Senate and House decided by the state

Only the President would be elected by popular nationwide vote

Lol
With a pure popular vote rural America would zero say in presidential elections... fact

Rural America will have less and less say in any elections as the years pass. That’s because Rural America is disappearing. As areas become more urbanized, voters shift from Republican to Democrat.

I live in a conservative rural area. Very white. Many people share the same attitudes towards the poor and urban that we see on this board. That’s because in rural areas poor people are lazy bums who milk the system. The crew that hangs around the town square all day are welfare mooches and drug addicts.

In the city, people are poor because the cost of living is high and wages are low. It’s poverty born of a system that continues to force taxpayers to subsidize corporate wages to keep prices low and shareholder profits high.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

But States like California that game the system and register illegals to vote would be defrauding the rest of the country of it's right to representation, and defrauding the voters, and would continue to steal Federal Tax Dollars from other states.

Until Motor Voter Registration is banned, and Voter ID is made law, the only protection against a Lawless State is The Electoral College.

Utter nonsense.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

A pure popular vote is mob rule... fact

Or just an election. Like every other election you cast your vote in.

 

[The Original Tree]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

But States like California that game the system and register illegals to vote would be defrauding the rest of the country of it's right to representation, and defrauding the voters, and would continue to steal Federal Tax Dollars from other states.

Until Motor Voter Registration is banned, and Voter ID is made law, the only protection against a Lawless State is The Electoral College.

Utter nonsense.

Utter Truth.

Show me on a California Drivers License where it denotes you are an Illegal Alien.
Show me then on a California Voter Registration that it differentiates between an American Citizen Eligible to Vote and an Illegal Alien that was Illegally Registered to Vote but is not Eligible to vote.

Show me that or just go away with your tail between your legs.

States like California are engaging in THEFT on a MASSIVE SCALE.

California is Registering every Illegal Alien who applies for a Drivers License to vote in California Elections. This is how they are exterminating The Republican Party in California. It is a concerted effort and strategy to eliminate all political opposition and make California a Monolithic state.

They Commit Daily, Theft of FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS which they are not entitled to.
They Commit Theft of additional representatives in Congress which they also are not entitled to.

And they do this by counting Illegal Aliens as Citizens, and then Registering them ALL to Vote.

 

[Rustic]

Actually

Everyone’s vote would count as ONE vote for the candidate. Regardless of which state you live in

Nope. That would make us a democracy and not a republic.

Disastrous.

Mob rule.

No thanks.

We would still be a Republic with the Senate and House decided by the state

Only the President would be elected by popular nationwide vote

Lol
With a pure popular vote rural America would zero say in presidential elections... fact

Rural America will have less and less say in any elections as the years pass. That’s because Rural America is disappearing. As areas become more urbanized, voters shift from Republican to Democrat.

I live in a conservative rural area. Very white. Many people share the same attitudes towards the poor and urban that we see on this board. That’s because in rural areas poor people are lazy bums who milk the system. The crew that hangs around the town square all day are welfare mooches and drug addicts.

In the city, people are poor because the cost of living is high and wages are low. It’s poverty born of a system that continues to force taxpayers to subsidize corporate wages to keep prices low and shareholder profits high.

Lol
You obviously do not understand rural America, urban and rural have none of the same needs, wants and interests.
Rural America is NOT driving 20-30 minutes distance from a major urban center... That’s called suburban America. Lol

 

[FA_Q2]

Actually

Everyone’s vote would count as ONE vote for the candidate. Regardless of which state you live in

Nope. That would make us a democracy and not a republic.

Disastrous.

Mob rule.

No thanks.

We would still be a Republic with the Senate and House decided by the state

Only the President would be elected by popular nationwide vote

Lol
With a pure popular vote rural America would zero say in presidential elections... fact

Rural America will have less and less say in any elections as the years pass. That’s because Rural America is disappearing. As areas become more urbanized, voters shift from Republican to Democrat.

I live in a conservative rural area. Very white. Many people share the same attitudes towards the poor and urban that we see on this board. That’s because in rural areas poor people are lazy bums who milk the system. The crew that hangs around the town square all day are welfare mooches and drug addicts.

In the city, people are poor because the cost of living is high and wages are low. It’s poverty born of a system that continues to force taxpayers to subsidize corporate wages to keep prices low and shareholder profits high.

Wow. This basically boils down to you calling poor republicans as lazy and poor democrats as hard working victims. Utter bullshit.

Not that I expect you to admit this is bullshit - every time you are called out on your lies you just ignore it.

 

[Rustic]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

A pure popular vote is mob rule... fact

Or just an election. Like every other election you cast your vote in.

Lol
Like I said, The founding fathers were genius… They knew without the electoral college rural America would have no say in presidential elections. Fact

 

[BlindBoo]

Our Founders did not want America to be a democracy. They rightly saw we needed to be a republic.

But directly electing the president will hardly change us from a Republic to a straight up Democracy either.

A pure popular vote makes for mob rule = shit eating democracy

Bullshit, one party or the other will still win, the sun will still rise in the east, toilets in the northern hemisphere will still....

 

[Rustic]

Our Founders did not want America to be a democracy. They rightly saw we needed to be a republic.

But directly electing the president will hardly change us from a Republic to a straight up Democracy either.

A pure popular vote makes for mob rule = shit eating democracy

Bullshit, one party or the other will still win, the sun will still rise in the east, toilets in the northern hemisphere will still....

Lol
Na, not really
Without the electoral college rural America would lose every single presidential election. Fact

 

[BlindBoo]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

Nothing would be suppressed. Every vote would count equally. The EC would simply reflect the will of the majority of the country rather than just the majority of their state.

A pure popular vote is mob rule... fact

Or just an election. Like every other election you cast your vote in.

Lol
Like I said, The founding fathers were genius… They knew without the electoral college rural America would have no say in presidential elections. Fact

In their day most of the population lived in rural areas not in big cities or suburbs.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

More bizarro world shit from Democrats.
“Republicans are assholes for suppressing black voters...but we think it’s okay to suppress an entire state”
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

It is not suppressing the entire state, some of the state will have voted for the winner of the popular vote.

I would say that our current system of winner take all for EC votes does just as much to suppress votes. Think about it, in your state your vote and that of 4.4 million other people did not count at all towards your states EV votes.

Since we know pure democracy is tyranny how do you suggest we do it?

 

[BlindBoo]

Our Founders did not want America to be a democracy. They rightly saw we needed to be a republic.

But directly electing the president will hardly change us from a Republic to a straight up Democracy either.

A pure popular vote makes for mob rule = shit eating democracy

Bullshit, one party or the other will still win, the sun will still rise in the east, toilets in the northern hemisphere will still....

Lol
Na, not really
Without the electoral college rural America would lose every single presidential election. Fact

Well they've lost most of their population to the metro's, why should they hold on to their political power? How long will they continue to disenfranchise the people living in the cities and burbs?