Dems of the board, was impeachment a good idea?

You trump cultists sound like the people who predicted that San Francisco was going to win the super bowl before the game was played. We have not gotten to the presidential campaign and you guys are talking about victory. It's easy to do that when trump has no opposition, but the game will change when he does and when that happens, trump is done.

With the party that can't figure out who won Iowa.

You realize more people now claim to be Republicans than Democrats, right???

you didn't realize that the 2012 (R) caucus in iowa was even more screwed up, huh suze? yep... & it wasn't because of a failed app combined with a bunch of trumpanzees clogging up the system like what just happened. looks cheating is all you deplorables can count on to 'win' even when it's not really your race right now..

For Iowa, a second caucus debacle in eight years

This isn’t the first time in the past decade that the process has failed to produce a timely result, which in turn arguably affected what happened next (which, after all, is what makes Iowa important).

In 2012, it was the Republican caucus that was a mess. Back then, Mitt Romney was named the winner of the caucuses by eight votes — a narrow victory, yes, but still a victory for the favorite to be the Republican nominee.
[...]
Except eight days after that New Hampshire win, we found Romney actually finished second in Iowa. The Iowa GOP announced, 16 days after the caucuses, that Rick Santorum had actually finished first — by 34 votes. But even that result was tinged by uncertainty:

Santorum’s strange, belated victory also served to embarrass the Iowa GOP — which had to admit that it had misallocated some votes, and simply lost some others, in a razor’s-edge election where every vote mattered.

It also cast an unflattering light on the old-fashioned and convoluted system that the party uses to collect and count caucus votes.
[...]
Given the irregularities and problems, in fact, the party even after the recount declined to declare either Romney or Santorum the actual winner:

… Iowa Republican leaders seemed to cast doubt on their own results, saying Thursday that it was hard to declare a “winner” without knowing what happened in those eight precincts....
Eventually, amid pressure, the party decided to just declare Santorum the winner in a statement released just before midnight on a Friday night — prime news-dump time.

“To clarify conflicting reports and to affirm the results released Jan. 18 by the Republican Party of Iowa, Chairman Matthew Strawn and the State Central Committee declared senator Rick Santorum the winner of the 2012 Iowa Caucus,” the party wrote.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/04/iowa-second-caucus-debacle-eight-years/

'Clog the lines': Internet trolls deliberately disrupted the Iowa caucuses hotline for reporting results
Several officials at caucuses attended by NBC News reporters struggled with lengthy hold times that made it impossible for them to report results over the phone.

Iowa Democrats say they were inundated with outside calls that clogged caucus results reporting

Doesn't matter if it was the app or phone lines or a mix of the two. The process was flawed from the beginning. A properly designed process would not fail. Much like why ARPA net was so successful. The roots of the internet were designed to withstand a nuclear war. Now I'm not saying the process needed that level of vetting, but it was certainly not designed with enough forethought or insight as to potential failures that may occur.

Essentially - they fucked up.
 
This mad me laugh. "Erode [our] freedoms"? He has deregulated. Do you know what that means? He DOESN'T want government in control of our healthcare. He DOESN'T want to disarm us. He is in favor of tax cuts, meaning people keep more of THEIR money. Just some examples...there are many more.

Yeah, there are, but these are usually examples of people with money and power fucking over the rest of us.

I personally don't feel more "Free" because my insurance company can fuck me over on a pre-existing condition.

How many times did Obama's businesses file for bankruptcy? Oh that's right, the guy couldn't even run a lemonade stand before being elected into Congress. He was a smooth talker though and it doesn't take much more than that to trick the ignorant folks, which is the Democrats main demographic.

Running a business isn't like running a government, buddy. Our two worst presidents - Hoover and Bush - were businessmen.

Trump says, "Hold my Beer."

If you aren't succeeding in this economy, it is an indictment on you not Trump.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

READ:

Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...
He is a very bad person.... I'm not gonna lie about it, or cover my eyes, and cover my ears, and pretend he's some kind of hero or messiah..... he's not. He's an awful, disgraceful, disgusting, lowlife of a person from head to toe. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. :dunno:

Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad...

Why such hate in your heart Care? Were you not supposed to care for ALL?
 
I don't know who is calling the shots, but I do know that the steps he has taken has made the economy thrive. We would NOT be where we are had Hillary won the election. She would have created more regulations and increased taxes. Trump has done the opposite. If a Democrat wins and implements those policies, along with the Green New Deal, our economy will absolutely tank(worse than 2008) but ignorant folks will blame it in Trump.

Actually, the manufacturing sector is already in recession, and so is the farm sector. The rest of the economy will follow soon enough.
 
Personally I loved the whole impeachment fiasco.....It relieved the constant barrage of "news" littered with stories of a fake nation of a mere 7 million people all over the news day and night.
 
I don't know who is calling the shots, but I do know that the steps he has taken has made the economy thrive. We would NOT be where we are had Hillary won the election. She would have created more regulations and increased taxes. Trump has done the opposite. If a Democrat wins and implements those policies, along with the Green New Deal, our economy will absolutely tank(worse than 2008) but ignorant folks will blame it in Trump.

Actually, the manufacturing sector is already in recession, and so is the farm sector. The rest of the economy will follow soon enough.

And what Trump policies would be the cause of this upcoming recession?
 
Ironically, a recession would be the best thing that could happen to me, as my customer base would triple.

So you obviously aren't in finance, but this has been made apparent many times over.
 
And what Trump policies would be the cause of this upcoming recession?

1) Trade War choking international trade.
2) Not keeping an eye on Wall Street as they run up inflated values. this is how 2008 happened, no one was watching the store.

More long term, we aren't investing in the education and infrastructure to keep us competitive.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

READ:

Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...
He is a very bad person.... I'm not gonna lie about it, or cover my eyes, and cover my ears, and pretend he's some kind of hero or messiah..... he's not. He's an awful, disgraceful, disgusting, lowlife of a person from head to toe. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. :dunno:

Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad... Orange Man Bad...

Why such hate in your heart Care? Were you not supposed to care for ALL?
I don't hate him Norman, call it tough love, being truthful about what is right before my eyes.... saying it, like it is.... if ONLY others would do the same, and standup for what is right vs what is wrong..... he could have been turned to the path of righteousness or simply right, vs this uncontrolled, unbridled, spoiled brat! :D
 
And what Trump policies would be the cause of this upcoming recession?

1) Trade War choking international trade.
2) Not keeping an eye on Wall Street as they run up inflated values. this is how 2008 happened, no one was watching the store.

More long term, we aren't investing in the education and infrastructure to keep us competitive.

Richer nations always win trade wars.

Trump will win again.
 
On the assumption that you are capable of a nuanced debate.

Impeachment is the only remedy our system has for a law breaking president. It's a flawed one, since no Senator before Mitt Romney has ever voted to remove a president of his own party.

No, we never thought we could remove Trump, not because most of the REpublicans really thought he was innocent, but because they are too terrified of their own voters. But we did put it on the historical record that he broke the law.
No you didn't, douchebag. There were no actual laws listed in the impeachment articles.

1) no 'actual' laws need to be broken for impeachment.

2) when the framers wrote the constitution - there were no federal crimes 'on the books', so they worded it in such a way that 'breaking the public trust' is a pathway to impeachment.

Did you hear the real news yet?

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acquitted in a kangaroo court. but not by the court of public opinion. donny still has NYS breathing down his mango hued neck & that's why he's really scared to leave office. it will catch up to him sooner or later. the best part is the slow drip drip drip of info that will be leaked as the election cycle goes on & how will he handle it & how much will y'all still bend over & grab yer ankles for his lies?

Trump won again...

You lost...

And he will win the election as well, we will make sure of that. Enough nonsense...

by lying, cheating, & stealing? cause that's all you got to rely on.

look what trolls from 4chan did to the iowa caucus. thankfully there are paper ballots. why won't turtleboy do anything about election security?
 
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They left out the word "uh" and repetitions of the same word and a cough. So it's not an exact copy of what was said. They only way you could have an exact copy is to have an electronic recording.

You morons keep harping on this nothing because you have no evidence. None.


It' just an excuse....There was no way they were going to accept anything other than removal by the Senate.

You gotta give it to them though, even when they have no power to inflict their will, they believe that the party in power should do it for them...That takes real arrogance.
The sad part is that there are always gullible Republicans who are willing to do it for them.


OH yeah...RINO's have plagued the party for decades...

Thing is that currently Trump has shown them that the way to win against Democrats is to fight them on their own terms...

1. They can't handle it

2. They get irrationally mad when they lose at their own games...

' RINO ' to basket dwelling deplorables means 'country & conscience over party'.

You're too old to be this stupid. But here we are

your limited vocab tactics resembles your chosen one. you're such a good little ankle grabber aren'cha?
 

Oh yet a other "He is a billionaire, but bad at business".

Who actually swallows this nonsense?

who else has wall street had to put on an allowance? he claims he's a billioniare but won't cough up the evidence to prove it. any money he made is di-rectly attributed to his family's wealth & having a father who constantly gave him cash with no restraints.

he's made money from ripping off people as well. & so called 'christians' will look the other way at that too.
 
From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?

For the Democrats, I think Impeachment, Russiagate, and Kavanaugh hearings were great ideas. In fact, I think Schumer, Nader, and Schiff should do another Impeachment between now and the Election. Keep having Nancy as lead spokesperson. The backdrop of watching Democrats sit and sulk during the SOTU and can’t even cheer for a Black girl getting a scholarship just adds even more to the optics.
 
From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?

On the assumption that you are capable of a nuanced debate.

Impeachment is the only remedy our system has for a law breaking president. It's a flawed one, since no Senator before Mitt Romney has ever voted to remove a president of his own party.

No, we never thought we could remove Trump, not because most of the REpublicans really thought he was innocent, but because they are too terrified of their own voters. But we did put it on the historical record that he broke the law.
No you didn't, douchebag. There were no actual laws listed in the impeachment articles.

1) no 'actual' laws need to be broken for impeachment.

2) when the framers wrote the constitution - there were no federal crimes 'on the books', so they worded it in such a way that 'breaking the public trust' is a pathway to impeachment.


1) What the hell are you talking about here...Please cite the exact statute in the US Code that Trump broke.

2) What an extraordinary display of ignorance of how the framers of the constitution came up with the document.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

READ:

Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...Orange man bad... blah blah...
He is a very bad person.... I'm not gonna lie about it, or cover my eyes, and cover my ears, and pretend he's some kind of hero or messiah..... he's not. He's an awful, disgraceful, disgusting, lowlife of a person from head to toe. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. :dunno:

but but but he's the chosen one & so called christians sold their soul for him.
 
^^^ fake news ^^^

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the reco�d, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

you can't get any more plainly written than that.
They left out the word "uh" and repetitions of the same word and a cough. So it's not an exact copy of what was said. They only way you could have an exact copy is to have an electronic recording.

You morons keep harping on this nothing because you have no evidence. None.


It' just an excuse....There was no way they were going to accept anything other than removal by the Senate.

You gotta give it to them though, even when they have no power to inflict their will, they believe that the party in power should do it for them...That takes real arrogance.
The sad part is that there are always gullible Republicans who are willing to do it for them.


OH yeah...RINO's have plagued the party for decades...

Thing is that currently Trump has shown them that the way to win against Democrats is to fight them on their own terms...

1. They can't handle it

2. They get irrationally mad when they lose at their own games...

' RINO ' to basket dwelling deplorables means 'country & conscience over party'.


So, you're saying that you're a "basket dwelling deplorable"?

I agree.
 
It' just an excuse....There was no way they were going to accept anything other than removal by the Senate.

You gotta give it to them though, even when they have no power to inflict their will, they believe that the party in power should do it for them...That takes real arrogance.
The sad part is that there are always gullible Republicans who are willing to do it for them.


OH yeah...RINO's have plagued the party for decades...

Thing is that currently Trump has shown them that the way to win against Democrats is to fight them on their own terms...

1. They can't handle it

2. They get irrationally mad when they lose at their own games...

' RINO ' to basket dwelling deplorables means 'country & conscience over party'.

You're too old to be this stupid. But here we are

your limited vocab tactics resembles your chosen one. you're such a good little ankle grabber aren'cha?


One doesn't need a thesaurus to define your idiocy....
 

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