Destroying Your Party's Frontrunner For Personal Gain Only Helps Your Opposition

I can understand the GOP leadership not trusting Trump and wanting to ensure a 'real' conservative is representing the party, but the measures they are taking, the depth and breadth of their attempts to ensure one of their own candidates does not win, is proof-positive that the Republican Party, led by the self/party-1st-servnig Washington Establishment career politicians have gone insane. Their efforts are coming across as an attempt to circumvent the will of the people in an ultimate way. Romney has completely destroyed any credibility he ever had as a 'man of the people' / NON-Washington Establishment individual, especially as he is joined now by the likes of John McCain. If there was EVER a time to abandon the GOP, allowing it to self-destruct and to build a new 2nd Major party that leaves these self-destructing, self-appointed Oligarchist rulers behind it is now.

Your whole theory depends on all of the fragmented components of the defunct republican party reuniting and coalescing around a new philosophy. That won't happen. You will end up with a weaker, smaller party with an even smaller share of the voting demographics.
 
"Destroying Your Party's Frontrunner For Personal Gain Only Helps Your Opposition"

No, having Trump as your frontrunner only helps your opposition
Yep...........
Just fill in the blank.

Having_____________________ as your frontrunner only helps the opposition.
 
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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Yes, the bitter primaries between Obama and Hillary in 08 killed his chances, I see what you're saying. The country is turning majority socialist, that's what's killing Republicans
The country is not turning majority socialist. That's not what's killing Republicans.

What's happening is the voter base for secular minorities is increasing rapidly, and the non minority evangelical voter base is flat.

The GOP's message cannot appeal to socially conservative evangelicals and secular minorities at the same time.
Secular minorities?
Like Muslims, Catholic Hispanics, and Black churchgoers?
Don't know what your point might be with those specifics....

I was talking about blacks, asians, latinos, east Indians, muslims, etc....basically non white christians
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Secular usually means non-religious.

Yes, that's the definition
 
Anything Republicans do to get to a nomination will hurt them. Whoever is the nominee, the others will not be satisfied and there will still be pushback and the vote will be split. It is unstoppable now. They are screwed no matter the outcome.
I'm inclined to agree.
 
I think the powers-that-be of the Republican Party would much rather see Hillary Clinton in the White House than Trump. At least with Hillary they know nothing will change and their Wall Street cronies will still get taken care of and their pockets will continue getting lined.
What makes you think things will be any different with Trump?
 
I think the powers-that-be of the Republican Party would much rather see Hillary Clinton in the White House than Trump. At least with Hillary they know nothing will change and their Wall Street cronies will still get taken care of and their pockets will continue getting lined.
What makes you think things will be any different with Trump?

Who said I did?
 
I think the powers-that-be of the Republican Party would much rather see Hillary Clinton in the White House than Trump. At least with Hillary they know nothing will change and their Wall Street cronies will still get taken care of and their pockets will continue getting lined.
What makes you think things will be any different with Trump?

Who said I did?
I thought it was implied
 
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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Yes, the bitter primaries between Obama and Hillary in 08 killed his chances, I see what you're saying. The country is turning majority socialist, that's what's killing Republicans
The country is not turning majority socialist. That's not what's killing Republicans.

What's happening is the voter base for secular minorities is increasing rapidly, and the non minority evangelical voter base is flat.

The GOP's message cannot appeal to socially conservative evangelicals and secular minorities at the same time.
Secular minorities?
Like Muslims, Catholic Hispanics, and Black churchgoers?
Don't know what your point might be with those specifics....

I was talking about blacks, asians, latinos, east Indians, muslims, etc....basically non white christians
????
Secular usually means non-religious.
Don't obfuscate.

If you have a point, come right out with it
 
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obsene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.

Honest to a fault? He's lied about so many things the press doesn't even bother to report them any longer.
 
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. Trump has no Conservative x Conservatism to hang his hat upon.

What he has is an ability to tap into anger. Is that enough to elect him?

And what does it say abo
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. He has no record of orthodox Conservatism to speak of. He has no consistent policy record.

What he does have is a preternatural ability to ta into anger and frustration.

Is this enough to vote for him? To elect him?

And what does that say for his supporters? Are they true Conservative ideologues or are they more willing to follow a strutting, boorish leader than be true to their ideology?

And what are the consequences for the GOP? With Ted Cruz as a dyed in the wool Conservative lurking in second place while Trump makes a mockery of political discourse, can the GOP survive?
 
I think the powers-that-be of the Republican Party would much rather see Hillary Clinton in the White House than Trump. At least with Hillary they know nothing will change and their Wall Street cronies will still get taken care of and their pockets will continue getting lined.
What makes you think things will be any different with Trump?
Because he's at odds with the GOP Establishment for one.

Their manipulation has caused us to lose against highly flawed Democrat candidates. Unqualified Democrat candidates.

Hillary, of all people shouldn't be running for president simply because of her record.
 
Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obscene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.

Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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The thing that makes him look like a four year old is his incessant whining about being insulted. Grow a pair, Nancy, or at least stop dishing it out if you don't like it. What a thumb sucking baby he is

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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obsene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.
It's not just frankness. He will say anything, at any time, no matter how repugnant or childish or undignified.

He inferred he has a big dick in a nationally-televised, major party debate last night.

Does that concern you in any way?
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Too late

It is all so ridiculous indeed, with that I agree. But I have to ask a few questions--------->

1. Are we to believe that in this GOP race, we have 2 crazies like the establishment puts forth, so skip the number 1 and 2 guy, and elevate Rubio? How many people find this establishment rhetoric true? To believe that this is plausible by any stretch of the imagination, means you are just listening to a narrative, and not using your own mind.

2. Who do you believe.....the Gop, or the Democrats? Do you believe the GOP that only Trump can't win, or do you believe the Democrats that none of them can win, no way, forget about it?

So then, why wouldn't the political operatives on the Democratic side be pushing for Trump? If Cruz is in 2nd place, why wouldn't the GOP be pushing for Cruz? Hmmmmmm!

How about I give you another take on it!!!!!! The GOP knows the odds are very good indeed they are going to win. They don't want Trump or Cruz, because Washington gets a shake up either way. Same for the Democrats, so they will push the narrative of who CAN win (eventhough all of them can) so if/when they lose, their precious DEPARTMENTS where all the Washington lefties reside, stay intact.

People are NOT following the bouncing ball very well in my opinion. How many of you have seen network news this morning showing all the UNION protesters outside the GOP convention FOR TRUMP? How many of you heard on the news this morning, that union officials are making poopy that their members are going to jump the Democratic slave ship, and jump on Trumps S.S. Freedom America?

This has been foretold by many of us that have watched the internal issues polls, and now it is coming to fruition. Why do you believe that it is uneducated voters pushing him? It is NOT uneducated perse', it is blue collar that have less college degrees. (now if the left wants to call blue collar workers dumb, be my everlasting guest!)

From where we sit, the GOP anti-establishment people should be downright giddy, as long as you do not use tunnel vision. Rubio is probably DOA after Florida, leaving the 2 anti-establishment candidates, Trump/Cruz in the drivers seats. Either one changes the Republican party more to your liking. One carries many more Democrats screwing Hilly, the other carries many more GOP and Independents, also screwing Hilly............who has no enthusiasm anywhere, shown by Democratic voter turnout in her defense.

And all you have to do...............ONE MORE TIME...............all you have to do, is quit hating each others camp, coalesce around whichever wins the nomination since they are anti-establishment, vote, and you will push whomever the nominee is into the White House. If 2016 is really about retaking the country from the SOCIALISTS, and slapping the GOP establishment in the face for screwing you over with promises they didn't even try and keep, it will be EASY PEEZY, if you just understand that either of these people, is a victory for us, and the country; and that if your guy loses the nomination legally, and morally, it is NOT the end of the world. When you are hungry, 1/2 a loaf is better than none. Either way we all get 1/2, and the establishment gets 0-)


Its a textbook example of "a little knowledge being a dangerous thing".

If there were some sort of upheaval going on, you'd be reading headlines about Representatives and Senators getting primaried. There are no such stories because, for all of the supposed anger, people are generally happy with their representatives. Over 80% will keep their jobs and politics as usual will continue despite whoever is in the Oval office.

As for the "brilliant" deduction you made about the Democrats railing against Trump instead of basically campaigning for him in some sort of machiavellian move; the reason the Democrats are not doing so is the same reason the GOP and other non affiliated persons are doing it; there is no substance to Mr. Trump and what has been announced is xenophobic and frankly stupid. Mr. Trump will not bring back a single job with a tariff, tax reductions, or even by threatening to jail the CEOs of companies that outsource overseas. The labor market is set up to flow to where ever labor is cheaper and that isn't here. Sorry to burst your bubble. His behavior is disgusting as well as his antics on stage.

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He's not Presidential material in any way shape or form.
 
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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With all the material the republican are providing , it should make for great TV spots for the Dems!
 
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. Trump has no Conservative x Conservatism to hang his hat upon.

What he has is an ability to tap into anger. Is that enough to elect him?

And what does it say abo
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. He has no record of orthodox Conservatism to speak of. He has no consistent policy record.

What he does have is a preternatural ability to ta into anger and frustration.

Is this enough to vote for him? To elect him?

And what does that say for his supporters? Are they true Conservative ideologues or are they more willing to follow a strutting, boorish leader than be true to their ideology?

And what are the consequences for the GOP? With Ted Cruz as a dyed in the wool Conservative lurking in second place while Trump makes a mockery of political discourse, can the GOP survive?


It will be fun when Hillary wins and starts nominating Justices.... What will be the grounds for opposition from these people supporting Mr. Trump? That the nominees are not conservative enough?
 
Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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With all the material the republican are providing , it should make for great TV spots for the Dems!


I'd run this clip (with the disgusting audio) 50,000 times in the swing states if I was in a Hillary Super PAC


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Simply stating what Mr. Trump was doing. Followed by a black screen saying "President Trump?"
 
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. Trump has no Conservative x Conservatism to hang his hat upon.

What he has is an ability to tap into anger. Is that enough to elect him?

And what does it say abo
It's my distinct impression that Trump supporters are behind him based on attitude rather than ideology.

Those ideologues on the Right should be more than satisfied with Ted Cruz as their standard bearer. But Trump's attitude, his boorish, strutting, vulgar attitude seems to be the flame some Right Wing moths are drawn to. Trump's political ideology seems to be all over the map. If he did not present himself with such an overbearing, thuggish, brutal attitude, would the political firebrands who waved the banner of hard core Conservatism be attracted to him? They surely would have branded him a flip flopper and raced to Ted Cruz' side.

But it's attitude than brings them in. Are they really committed to a far Right political agenda, or die they seek an angry fighter no matter his policies?
That makes no sense.

What about Trump is far-right?
Nothing but his attitude. He has no record of orthodox Conservatism to speak of. He has no consistent policy record.

What he does have is a preternatural ability to ta into anger and frustration.

Is this enough to vote for him? To elect him?

And what does that say for his supporters? Are they true Conservative ideologues or are they more willing to follow a strutting, boorish leader than be true to their ideology?

And what are the consequences for the GOP? With Ted Cruz as a dyed in the wool Conservative lurking in second place while Trump makes a mockery of political discourse, can the GOP survive?
The only people that Trump angers is people who are all talk and no action. Bullshit artists. Non-hackers and posers. Slick Willies. Empty suits that are along for the ride.

The anger comes from watching an incompetent boob screw up everything he comes in contact with. Watching the corruption on full display. The evil monevolence and in your face attitude of a government that breaks our laws and dares us to stop them.
 
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Trump's the man. He's dismissing the petty haters and movin on. I urge people to check out his great speech he gave in Maine yesterday. It's probably on YouTube now. The career politicians have run this country into the ground.

He really got into Romney's 'Free Trade' tirade. We're running so many massive trade deficits and businesses are fleeing the country. The career politicians like Romney have completely screwed the country. I am now convinced it is Trump's time. He has my support.
 
Rubio's a closet-gay Bush Mini-Me, and Cruz is a foreigner. It's over. Trump is the man. Deal with it Establishment.
 
Many Republicans do not consider Trump to be part of their party, and rightfully so. He is not a Republican, he is just using them because he would get nowhere with the Democrats.
 
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obsene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.

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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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The thing that makes him look like a four year old is his incessant whining about being insulted. Grow a pair, Nancy, or at least stop dishing it out if you don't like it. What a thumb sucking baby he is

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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obsene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.
It's not just frankness. He will say anything, at any time, no matter how repugnant or childish or undignified.

He inferred he has a big dick in a nationally-televised, major party debate last night.

Does that concern you in any way?
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Too late

It is all so ridiculous indeed, with that I agree. But I have to ask a few questions--------->

1. Are we to believe that in this GOP race, we have 2 crazies like the establishment puts forth, so skip the number 1 and 2 guy, and elevate Rubio? How many people find this establishment rhetoric true? To believe that this is plausible by any stretch of the imagination, means you are just listening to a narrative, and not using your own mind.

2. Who do you believe.....the Gop, or the Democrats? Do you believe the GOP that only Trump can't win, or do you believe the Democrats that none of them can win, no way, forget about it?

So then, why wouldn't the political operatives on the Democratic side be pushing for Trump? If Cruz is in 2nd place, why wouldn't the GOP be pushing for Cruz? Hmmmmmm!

How about I give you another take on it!!!!!! The GOP knows the odds are very good indeed they are going to win. They don't want Trump or Cruz, because Washington gets a shake up either way. Same for the Democrats, so they will push the narrative of who CAN win (eventhough all of them can) so if/when they lose, their precious DEPARTMENTS where all the Washington lefties reside, stay intact.

People are NOT following the bouncing ball very well in my opinion. How many of you have seen network news this morning showing all the UNION protesters outside the GOP convention FOR TRUMP? How many of you heard on the news this morning, that union officials are making poopy that their members are going to jump the Democratic slave ship, and jump on Trumps S.S. Freedom America?

This has been foretold by many of us that have watched the internal issues polls, and now it is coming to fruition. Why do you believe that it is uneducated voters pushing him? It is NOT uneducated perse', it is blue collar that have less college degrees. (now if the left wants to call blue collar workers dumb, be my everlasting guest!)

From where we sit, the GOP anti-establishment people should be downright giddy, as long as you do not use tunnel vision. Rubio is probably DOA after Florida, leaving the 2 anti-establishment candidates, Trump/Cruz in the drivers seats. Either one changes the Republican party more to your liking. One carries many more Democrats screwing Hilly, the other carries many more GOP and Independents, also screwing Hilly............who has no enthusiasm anywhere, shown by Democratic voter turnout in her defense.

And all you have to do...............ONE MORE TIME...............all you have to do, is quit hating each others camp, coalesce around whichever wins the nomination since they are anti-establishment, vote, and you will push whomever the nominee is into the White House. If 2016 is really about retaking the country from the SOCIALISTS, and slapping the GOP establishment in the face for screwing you over with promises they didn't even try and keep, it will be EASY PEEZY, if you just understand that either of these people, is a victory for us, and the country; and that if your guy loses the nomination legally, and morally, it is NOT the end of the world. When you are hungry
Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
.
Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obscene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.

Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
.

The thing that makes him look like a four year old is his incessant whining about being insulted. Grow a pair, Nancy, or at least stop dishing it out if you don't like it. What a thumb sucking baby he is

little-marco-1-1024x598.jpg


Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
screenshot%202016-02-29%2011.09.48.png
There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Trump has this funny way of being totally frank to people who are incompetent. If he feels you aren't doing your job he tells you to your face, but by that time he's telling "You're Fired!!!"

So people don't like his frankness. I don't see him being obsene about it. That is simply a political tactic. Trump is bold and honest to a fault. But he is loyal and he expects loyalty. He's not the type to throw anyone under the bus like Obama or Hillary.

This is why support for him is so strong and uncompromising.
It's not just frankness. He will say anything, at any time, no matter how repugnant or childish or undignified.

He inferred he has a big dick in a nationally-televised, major party debate last night.

Does that concern you in any way?
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Last night's debate was a disgrace. It's clear that the only reason Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were making personal attacks on Donald Trump was because they want to be president so bad, they are willing to compromise their principles.

Mitt Romney is another example. Mitt's feelings were hurt, so he was willing to sacrifice his decency to get even for the sour grapes he's still tasting from his own failed campaign. I get the feeling that any outsider would receive this treatment, but when it comes to debates, this is what can be expected in every case. Not just this one. They want everyone to think they're earnest when they attack Trump, but to be clear, if it was Cruz, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Rubio, he would be getting this treatment. If it was Ben Carson, he would be accused of sexual-assault, knifing classmates, being a psychopath. That's just the way these people play the game.

Here's the danger. When you go through this mess, it peels off votes. Small groups of people who have core principles are peeled off and will not vote for the Republican nominee even if it means giving a shitforbrains scumbag like Obama the White House. Democrat voters aren't so principled. They are on record stating very clearly that they'll vote for a rapist if he's a Democrat. They have no core principles other than winning.

The only thing positive that can come from this is that Republicans are using every bit of opposition research Hillary has early, rather than later, and when the general election starts, she won't have anything new. It will be old news. Still, the risk of alienating large swaths of potential voters is high. Many people have said that they would rather let Hillary win than vote for Trump, because the public trashing of his reputation has reached lows that I personally cannot remember ever happening before. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clear that the establishment is in a panic. Ask Karl Rove about Trump and he turns into a red faced madman. Glenn Beck is just as bad. These people are really pissed that their hand-picked pushover isn't winning the hearts and minds of the public anymore.

Good.

We're tired of being told who to vote for and then losing our asses to dishonest and incompetent Democrats.
So if you want Amnesty, vote for the establishment guy _____________. And when Hillary brings up their flaws, and sweeps them in the election, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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There are many in the party who would rather lose than put that man in the White House. They think it's not only bad for their party, but for the country.

I remember Republicans saying they wouldn't vote for McCain & Romney and let Obama win because they weren't conservative enough.

This party really needs to calm down a bit and start thinking rationally before it's nothing more than regional.
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Too late

It is all so ridiculous indeed, with that I agree. But I have to ask a few questions--------->

1. Are we to believe that in this GOP race, we have 2 crazies like the establishment puts forth, so skip the number 1 and 2 guy, and elevate Rubio? How many people find this establishment rhetoric true? To believe that this is plausible by any stretch of the imagination, means you are just listening to a narrative, and not using your own mind.

2. Who do you believe.....the Gop, or the Democrats? Do you believe the GOP that only Trump can't win, or do you believe the Democrats that none of them can win, no way, forget about it?

So then, why wouldn't the political operatives on the Democratic side be pushing for Trump? If Cruz is in 2nd place, why wouldn't the GOP be pushing for Cruz? Hmmmmmm!

How about I give you another take on it!!!!!! The GOP knows the odds are very good indeed they are going to win. They don't want Trump or Cruz, because Washington gets a shake up either way. Same for the Democrats, so they will push the narrative of who CAN win (eventhough all of them can) so if/when they lose, their precious DEPARTMENTS where all the Washington lefties reside, stay intact.

People are NOT following the bouncing ball very well in my opinion. How many of you have seen network news this morning showing all the UNION protesters outside the GOP convention FOR TRUMP? How many of you heard on the news this morning, that union officials are making poopy that their members are going to jump the Democratic slave ship, and jump on Trumps S.S. Freedom America?

This has been foretold by many of us that have watched the internal issues polls, and now it is coming to fruition. Why do you believe that it is uneducated voters pushing him? It is NOT uneducated perse', it is blue collar that have less college degrees. (now if the left wants to call blue collar workers dumb, be my everlasting guest!)

From where we sit, the GOP anti-establishment people should be downright giddy, as long as you do not use tunnel vision. Rubio is probably DOA after Florida, leaving the 2 anti-establishment candidates, Trump/Cruz in the drivers seats. Either one changes the Republican party more to your liking. One carries many more Democrats screwing Hilly, the other carries many more GOP and Independents, also screwing Hilly............who has no enthusiasm anywhere, shown by Democratic voter turnout in her defense.

And all you have to do...............ONE MORE TIME...............all you have to do, is quit hating each others camp, coalesce around whichever wins the nomination since they are anti-establishment, vote, and you will push whomever the nominee is into the White House. If 2016 is really about retaking the country from the SOCIALISTS, and slapping the GOP establishment in the face for screwing you over with promises they didn't even try and keep, it will be EASY PEEZY, if you just understand that either of these people, is a victory for us, and the country; and that if your guy loses the nomination legally, and morally, it is NOT the end of the world. When you are hungry, 1/2 a loaf is better than none. Either way we all get 1/2, and the establishment gets 0-)


Its a textbook example of "a little knowledge being a dangerous thing".

If there were some sort of upheaval going on, you'd be reading headlines about Representatives and Senators getting primaried. There are no such stories because, for all of the supposed anger, people are generally happy with their representatives. Over 80% will keep their jobs and politics as usual will continue despite whoever is in the Oval office.

As for the "brilliant" deduction you made about the Democrats railing against Trump instead of basically campaigning for him in some sort of machiavellian move; the reason the Democrats are not doing so is the same reason the GOP and other non affiliated persons are doing it; there is no substance to Mr. Trump and what has been announced is xenophobic and frankly stupid. Mr. Trump will not bring back a single job with a tariff, tax reductions, or even by threatening to jail the CEOs of companies that outsource overseas. The labor market is set up to flow to where ever labor is cheaper and that isn't here. Sorry to burst your bubble. His behavior is disgusting as well as his antics on stage.

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He's not Presidential material in any way shape or form.

Well then, we can agree to disagree. No problem with that in America.

But for those old enough to remember, while he wasn't as "crude" as Trump, what was said about Perot by the establishment of both party's? Look on youtube if you don't remember, or are to young to posses the knowledge.

You see, a politicians job is to 1. get elected, then re-elected, and 2. to spin or propagandize everything so much, you end up not knowing who/whom is actually telling the truth, so fall back on your original position of who you believe.

Perot told the truth! Even many Democrats today admit this. So do Republicans, and yet, he wasn't a politician, he was a businessman they buried. Virtually ALL the reasons to NOT vote Perot, are today used again against Trump, with a few more added in. See if you can find those debates, and hear what he said! Listen to what Bush said, then listen to Clinton. Who was correct, and who was not.

In the end, a politicians job is to LIE, then call it a fib, a misunderstanding, or a quote taken out of context. Normal people do not think like that. He is up there fighting 2 very good politicians, who spin, and spin, and spin. So was Perot, but he didn't lie; meanwhile, both party's said he was wrong.........dead wrong, and he wasn't.

So maybe you are correct Candy, maybe Trump isn't the correct guy for the job. Thing is, voters have discovered that politicians lie to much, so it is their own fault that the voters have decided to listen to Trump. It is NOT the Trump brilliance that draws them, it is the political classes bullshit that drives them away. That is what is driving the election of 2016, and like it or not, it shows in the primaries of both party's.


So, how do you convince voters to give the LIARS another chance? I dunno, maybe the GOP should ask the DNC, they seem to have pretty good luck pulling that one off.
 

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