Did Hillarys Unsecured Email Server Get ProAmerican Spies Killed?

[flacaltenn]

Hey jakey --- The admin EXTRADITED this guy KNOWING he would be suspect of helping us. Do you need a LINK for that? They officially signed his death warrant..

So ---- did he HELP US and we REFUSED to keep him in protective custody? OR -- did he not and we neglected to inform the Iranians of that?

The timing and characters is PERFECT for the Stuxnet event. This guy was caught on a Silicon Valley shopping spree for parts. Most likely had the knowledge to help create that virus. .

If he is a bad guy to us, then he got what he deserved.

I am not tearing up over an Iranian scientist. Just not agonna do it.

Press is reporting that he INDEED help us. Shouldn't you be tearing up over the morals of pumping him for info and then signing his death warrant? You don't see a lack of ethics in that?

Iranians probably said --"that one you can shoot yourselves, or send him back and we'll shoot him" After they torture him for days to find out HOW he helped us..

C'mon Jakey --- doesn't that suck a whole lot???

Doesn't your lack of comprehension that he WANTED to return to Iran to save his family suck?
.

I don't know who told you that. And you have no brain if you can't figure out the possibilities.

A) A nuclear scientist is an idiot and actually BELIEVED he could literally walk back into Iran and "save his family"....

B) Or the IRANIANS had to THREATEN his family in order to get him, torture him, and kill him..

Did I miss any possibilities there PK1? And why does that make it right to "provide" him to the Iranians?

Why don't you read this OLD WSJ article that i already provided in this thread:

The Wall Street Journal claims that his return was under threat of retaliation to his family. ...

Iran Scientist Returns to Tehran
.

I believe it.. You did NOT answer my question. What makes it RIGHT to "provide him" to the Iranians? If the Iranians want to be the Evil bastards that they are --- LET THEM. We don't have to HELP them be bastards.

What part of that don't you get?

 

[flacaltenn]

Nope. It was her job to KNOW exactly what was classified on sight.

Not according to the FBI Director.....

Oh yes indeedy.. According to the FBI director's statements. It's in there. And it's definitely repeated in his follow-ups.

 

[flacaltenn]

Oh yes indeedy.. In the big non-indictment indictment statement even......

Lieu Minimizes Hillary Clinton's Abuse of Classified Information

What Lieu did not acknowledge is Comey’s prior statement that “even if information is not marked ‘classified’ in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.”

Comey, later in the hearing, reiterated his finding that there was extreme carelessness in Clinton’s handling of classified information.

Everyone who's ever held a clearance is taught to recognize material for which they are cleared. And being the HEAD of a sensitive agency -- it was the lunatic's JOB to make sure EVERYONE took that responsibility seriously...











But she didn't.... Read my sigline...

 

[buckeye45_73]

the Washington Examiner is a pathological liar.

"...because I said so..."

Because your dismissal of liberal media justifies my dismissal of rightwing nut media.

Fuck off, Hupp PO, mother jones, and daily KOS aren't even leftwing, they are commie mouthpieces. Leftwing is WaPO and the times and networks.

 

[Care4all]

Why is Senator Cotton discussing these emails with the media if the content of these emails was CLASSIFIED, and something Hillary's Aides should not have been discussing?

I don't get it?

Didnt Comey rule that none of them were classified because Hillary didnt mean to do it, or something like that?

BUT....
Were these emails discussing the Scientist EVER UP-Classified emails...were they public unclassified emails that were released and this is why Senator Cotton is able to bring them up with the media? Or is Cotton making things worse and breaking the law by discussing them with the Public?

If the emails on the Scientist contained no classified information and were not classified before the release of them, then what is Sen. Cotton's beef?

People like you are pathetic really

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

 

[flacaltenn]

Didnt Comey rule that none of them were classified because Hillary didnt mean to do it, or something like that?

BUT....
Were these emails discussing the Scientist EVER UP-Classified emails...were they public unclassified emails that were released and this is why Senator Cotton is able to bring them up with the media? Or is Cotton making things worse and breaking the law by discussing them with the Public?

If the emails on the Scientist contained no classified information and were not classified before the release of them, then what is Sen. Cotton's beef?

People like you are pathetic really

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

Nope.. Different content that what Vigi posted and attributed to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks ain't gonna GIVE a source and the press will have to sort it all out,. But they won't.. They are lazy and incompetent.

 

[flacaltenn]

The contents of that WikiLeaks email is the FIRST I've personally seen that SCREAMS classified...

Makes me think they have MORE of the 30,000 missing emails than the FBI had...

 

[Care4all]

BUT....
Were these emails discussing the Scientist EVER UP-Classified emails...were they public unclassified emails that were released and this is why Senator Cotton is able to bring them up with the media? Or is Cotton making things worse and breaking the law by discussing them with the Public?

If the emails on the Scientist contained no classified information and were not classified before the release of them, then what is Sen. Cotton's beef?

People like you are pathetic really

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

Nope.. Different content that what Vigi posted and attributed to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks ain't gonna GIVE a source and the press will have to sort it all out,. But they won't.. They are lazy and incompetent.

Do you mean this post by Vigil?

Did Hillarys Unsecured Email Server Get ProAmerican Spies Killed?

What does that have to do with Hillary's email server and wikileaks hacking her and getting the scientist killed???

 

[JimBowie1958]

Nope. It was her job to KNOW exactly what was classified on sight.

Not according to the FBI Director.....

Oh yes indeedy.. According to the FBI director's statements. It's in there. And it's definitely repeated in his follow-ups.

Nope. Comey specified that a 'REASONABLE PERSON' would recognize these things, so that leaves Hillary out, doesnt it?

 

[JimBowie1958]

People like you are pathetic really

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

Nope.. Different content that what Vigi posted and attributed to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks ain't gonna GIVE a source and the press will have to sort it all out,. But they won't.. They are lazy and incompetent.

Do you mean this post by Vigil?

Did Hillarys Unsecured Email Server Get ProAmerican Spies Killed?

What does that have to do with Hillary's email server and wikileaks hacking her and getting the scientist killed???

The point is that Hillary's unsecured email server could have been the vector by which the Iranians found out who was giving them information on their nuclear research.

 

[sealybobo]

There are many kinds of "spies", and one of the key types is the "case agent" who slips into countries and recruits foreign people to spy on their government. They are hard to come by and they put their own lives and carreers at risk to benefit their own nation as well as the USA.

So when Libtard ass holes get these people killed with their leaks and bungling classified information, people who support the USA by sending us information to verify what their host nation is doing very often pay the price for libtard idiots fucking up time after time.

This spy we recruited in Iran got caught and executed as a spy and the mystery is 'How did the Iranians find out about him?' Turns out, emails on Hillary's unsecure email server had emails with enough details on it to allow the Iranians to catch this man, a major fuck up.

Cotton: Clinton discussed executed Iranian scientist on email


Hillary Clinton recklessly discussed, in emails hosted on her private server, an Iranian nuclear scientist who was executed by Iran for treason, Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said Sunday.

"I'm not going to comment on what he may or may not have done for the United States government, but in the emails that were on Hillary Clinton's private server, there were conversations among her senior advisors about this gentleman," he said on "Face the Nation." Cotton was speaking about Shahram Amiri, who gave information to the U.S. about Iran's nuclear program.

Emails and Benghazi are all you got. It's sad

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Won't matter to her base

It will matter to republicans who thought she was a better choice than Trump. And is will definately matter to undecided independents. Death follows this woman. How can we trust her to keep our nation's secrets secret?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

[Don't need because there is no proof one was executed. That is on the OP, which is pwnd at this point.

. Yeah, Iran executes their top nuclear scientists all the time for no reason.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Prove the connection. The sun came up this morning, and a guy down the road died of a heart attack. Obviously the sun killed him. Do you underst

The connection is his name was mentioned in state department discussions in those emails found on her unsecured server.

What the hell is the matter with you?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Notice how the progressives here are changing the narrative to him being a traitor and not discussing the issue that Emails were hacked from Hillary's illegal server?

 

[easyt65]

Didnt Comey rule that none of them were classified because Hillary didnt mean to do it, or something like that?

BUT....
Were these emails discussing the Scientist EVER UP-Classified emails...were they public unclassified emails that were released and this is why Senator Cotton is able to bring them up with the media? Or is Cotton making things worse and breaking the law by discussing them with the Public?

If the emails on the Scientist contained no classified information and were not classified before the release of them, then what is Sen. Cotton's beef?

People like you are pathetic really

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

 

[PK1]

If he is a bad guy to us, then he got what he deserved.

I am not tearing up over an Iranian scientist. Just not agonna do it.

Press is reporting that he INDEED help us. Shouldn't you be tearing up over the morals of pumping him for info and then signing his death warrant? You don't see a lack of ethics in that?

Iranians probably said --"that one you can shoot yourselves, or send him back and we'll shoot him" After they torture him for days to find out HOW he helped us..

C'mon Jakey --- doesn't that suck a whole lot???

Doesn't your lack of comprehension that he WANTED to return to Iran to save his family suck?

I don't know who told you that. And you have no brain if you can't figure out the possibilities.

A) A nuclear scientist is an idiot and actually BELIEVED he could literally walk back into Iran and "save his family"....
B) Or the IRANIANS had to THREATEN his family in order to get him, torture him, and kill him..

Did I miss any possibilities there PK1? And why does that make it right to "provide" him to the Iranians?

Why don't you read this OLD WSJ article that i already provided in this thread:

The Wall Street Journal claims that his return was under threat of retaliation to his family. ...
Iran Scientist Returns to Tehran

I believe it.. You did NOT answer my question. What makes it RIGHT to "provide him" to the Iranians? If the Iranians want to be the Evil bastards that they are --- LET THEM. We don't have to HELP them be bastards.

Apparently, you did not read the WSJ report. We did not "provide him" to the Iranians; he had freedom to make his own decision. Although CIA provided Amiri protection via their national resettlement program (witness-protection program for defectors), he got nervous about the fate of his wife and child, and bolted to the Pakistani embassy.

However, there's speculation in the investigative public reports. Perhaps you or another critic can provide CLASSIFIED info on what really happened and why/how Amiri returned to Iran?

 

[easyt65]

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

1. Please provide a direct link to where Comey said Hillary's e-mails where never hacked, beyond the shadow of a doubt.
-- In the 1st place, you are wrong. Hillary's own IT specialist admitted he had to completely shut down her server on 2 occasions because her server was being hacked and the only way he could stop it was to completely shut it down. It was never proven if he did so before any of her files were accessed.
-- 2ndly, the FBI stated her use of multiple UN-ENCRYPTED devices made it quite probably that she was hacked. The moment she stepped off the plane in foreign countries their operatives were already trying to hack into / tap into / 'listen' to those devices. (Ever heard of 'SIGINT' - 'signals intelligence'?)
-- The news reported that the Hillary Campaign's computer was hacked into and her files accessed AFTER the FBI warned that they believed someone / the Russians might try to hack into the DNC's servers / files, which they did.

2. Yes, Hillary did release SOME of her State Department-related files....but as Comey testified under oath:

GOWDY: 'Hillary Clinton stated she had turned over all of her State Department-related documents - was that true?'

COMEY: 'No that was not true. We found THOUSANDS of State Department-related documents Ms. Clinton never turned over.'


I'm sorry, but I am going to have to issue you a 'PANTS ON FIRE' for that one.

 

[Care4all]

Why?

Were these emails on Hillary's server about the Scientist, classified emails or not?

Many of Hillary's emails were UP Classified before they were released to the public on the FOIA requests, so some were redacted emails and some were held back altogether from the Public.

IF these Emails from Hillary's server are being discussed by Sen Cotton, then one can ONLY presume the content of the emails about the Scientist WERE NEVER CLASSIFIED and did NOT contain any classified information.

And if these emails contained no classified information then WHY OH WHY is Sen Cotton making a beef about emails on hillary's server about the scientist, that were NEVER Classified and never contained classified information...??? Her aides could have used trump's favorite media and tweeted them, if they felt liked it...since it was not classified info...

And if it was classified info and dangerous for hillary to have these emails on her server because they contained classified info, THEN WHY IS Sen Cotton discussing this with the media and public?

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS are pertinent...

THey were recently MADE public by WikiLeaks. Like it or not -- now EVERYONE can see the sensitivity of the material and WHY they were classified. Sources and statements like that are OBVIOUSLY classified.

Which means that your other leg is no longer available for standing on..

comey said there was no indication that her server was hacked, so...is what Wikileaks has as her emails, from the emails that were released already on FOIA requests or are these wikileaks emails from them hacking her and Comey was wrong?

And where does it say these emails are from wikileaks? Because these emails discussing the Scientist were in articles written a year ago?

Ahh, here is a link from jroc I believe earlier in this thread that states these were State Dept emails RELEASED on FOIA requests to the AP and Judicial Watch....

Clinton emails may shed light on Iranian scientist - CNNPolitics.com

It appears those emails discussing the Scientist WERE NOT CLASSIFIED emails and the State department released them.

Nope.. Different content that what Vigi posted and attributed to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks ain't gonna GIVE a source and the press will have to sort it all out,. But they won't.. They are lazy and incompetent.

Do you mean this post by Vigil?

Did Hillarys Unsecured Email Server Get ProAmerican Spies Killed?

What does that have to do with Hillary's email server and wikileaks hacking her and getting the scientist killed???

The point is that Hillary's unsecured email server could have been the vector by which the Iranians found out who was giving them information on their nuclear research.

not really, the emails are from after the time this scientist had already succumbed to the Iranians black mail and asked to go home....So his wife and kid would not be killed.

So the Iranians knew already that he was a spy.

And her server was a Secure Server, it was just an UNCLASSIFIED s server, just like all of her aides using the State.gov email system, which was ALSO an UNCLASSIFIED system.

 

[easyt65]

not really, the emails are from after the time this scientist had already succumbed to the Iranians black mail and asked to go home....So his wife and kid would not be killed.

So the Iranians knew already that he was a spy.

And her server was a Secure Server, it was just an UNCLASSIFIED s server, just like all of her aides using the State.gov email system, which was ALSO an UNCLASSIFIED system.

Link?