Did Obama DESERVE to become president??

[Neotrotsky]

Yes indeed

if the election was held today

Papa Obama would lose

It's your opinion. Mine is that the 99% have reali ed that Trickle down doesn't work and that's exactly what the Republicans are continuing to fight for....borrowing money from Communist Chinese banks to fund low tax rates for the wealthiest Americans.

Not at all
All the polls show it

Since most of them are bias towards Democrats
You know it is even worse





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[Full-Auto]

Just what came after

So Obama is responsible for unemployment dropping from 10.2% in October of 2009 to 8.6% last November?

Dufus.

An disingenuous rebuttal means what?

Obama took responsibility for the economy in March of 09. I will also mention that same asswipe was a senator that voted for many of the policies that haunt us.

 

[Sallow]

Just what came after

So Obama is responsible for unemployment dropping from 10.2% in October of 2009 to 8.6% last November?

Dufus.

An disingenuous rebuttal means what?

Obama took responsibility for the economy in March of 09. I will also mention that same asswipe was a senator that voted for many of the policies that haunt us.

He voted to defund SEC and populate it with morons?

 

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Just what came after

So Obama is responsible for unemployment dropping from 10.2% in October of 2009 to 8.6% last November?

Dufus.

An disingenuous rebuttal means what?

Obama took responsibility for the economy in March of 09. I will also mention that same asswipe was a senator that voted for many of the policies that haunt us.

Does anything else really matter

 

[Full-Auto]

So Obama is responsible for unemployment dropping from 10.2% in October of 2009 to 8.6% last November?

Dufus.

An disingenuous rebuttal means what?

Obama took responsibility for the economy in March of 09. I will also mention that same asswipe was a senator that voted for many of the policies that haunt us.

Does anything else really matter

Lets see, voted for the policies that haunt us as senator.

YES IT FUCKING MATTERS.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Does anything else matter
Nope

oh except

 

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Does anything else matter
Nope

oh except

LMAO!! Bush, Bernanke and Paulson gave more money to the banks than the entire recovery plan cost. 'Course that doesn't matter....the rich folks got that. The Wall St. crowd and the bank employees never missed a bonus.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Dufus.

An disingenuous rebuttal means what?

Obama took responsibility for the economy in March of 09. I will also mention that same asswipe was a senator that voted for many of the policies that haunt us.

Lets see, voted for the policies that haunt us as senator.

YES IT FUCKING MATTERS.

At least Papa Obama is
taking us to our future Progressive Utopia

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0A9Hw5rnJs]Planet of the Ape- Progressives - YouTube[/ame]

 

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LMAO!! Bush, Bernanke and Paulson gave more money to the banks than the entire recovery plan cost. 'Course that doesn't matter....the rich folks got that. The Wall St. crowd and the bank employees never missed a bonus.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Actually Papa Obama increased and extended TARP

besides, the money was paid back

CNN: Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

 

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Actually Papa Obama increased and extended TARP

besides, the money was paid back

CNN: Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

Get your head out of your ass. Capitalism doesn't work like that. The Republicans are the Capitalist and the Democrats are the Socialist....or do you simply use the terms to suit your agenda

Show me some example where the biggest financial institutions are loaned hundreds of billions of dollars to save their rich asses and that represents Capitalism.

If true capitalism had been practiced the whole goddam thing would have come down on their rich asses the same way it did in 1929-1930.

 

[Oldstyle]

I'm still looking for one of you progressives to step up to the plate and show me something "exceptional" that Barack Obama produced either as President of the Law Review, as a lawyer, as a college lecturer, as a State Senator or as a US Senator. My contention is that he's nothing more than a hollow facade...promoted repeatedly because of his "stature" of being the first black President of the Harvard Law Review but really never demonstrating anything exceptional since then. So prove me wrong! Show me some great piece of legislation that "he" crafted. Show me a scholarly work on constitutional law that he wrote while teaching the subject at the University of Chicago. Show me some brilliant legal case he won while he was a lawyer. Show me a thoughtful article he wrote while he was the President of the Law Review. Surely he's done SOMETHING?

That's a laugh. Thanks!

But I sorta get it. Distinguished for a conservative would be killing a mess of brown people in a foreign land..or gutting a viable company and firing all it's employees.

Don't you think it's rather telling that I've asked a rather simple question which all of the progressives that support Barack Obama have since avoided like the plague? Why is it that none of you want to point out to me all of the exceptional things that Obama has done for the past twenty years that should have made us all want him as our President? He's supposedly brilliant, correct? Then where are the examples of that brilliance? Where are the insightful articles he wrote while President of the Law Review? Where are the complex cases he won as a lawyer? Where are the scholarly pieces he wrote while teaching constitutional law? What are "his" pieces of legislation in either the Illionois Senate or the US Senate?

It's pretty obvious that deep down, most of YOU are now quite aware that he's not what he was made out to be by the Main Stream Media. So if that's the case...then why do you want this rather unexceptional man to have another four years? Why aren't you demanding that Hillary Clinton run and Barack Obama do a Lyndon Johnson and go play golf full time?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Actually Papa Obama increased and extended TARP

besides, the money was paid back

CNN: Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

Get your head out of your ass. Capitalism doesn't work like that. The Republicans are the Capitalist and the Democrats are the Socialist....or do you simply use the terms to suit your agenda

Show me some example where the biggest financial institutions are loaned hundreds of billions of dollars to save their rich asses and that represents Capitalism.

If true capitalism had been practiced the whole goddam thing would have come down on their rich asses the same way it did in 1929-1930.

Crony Capitalism, Statism is not Free markets, not at all

The US has promoted Statism for years
that is what we really have
promoted by both parties

Some of Papa Obama's Biggest donors:

Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

 

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I'm still looking for one of you progressives to step up to the plate and show me something "exceptional" that Barack Obama produced either as President of the Law Review, as a lawyer, as a college lecturer, as a State Senator or as a US Senator. My contention is that he's nothing more than a hollow facade...promoted repeatedly because of his "stature" of being the first black President of the Harvard Law Review but really never demonstrating anything exceptional since then. So prove me wrong! Show me some great piece of legislation that "he" crafted. Show me a scholarly work on constitutional law that he wrote while teaching the subject at the University of Chicago. Show me some brilliant legal case he won while he was a lawyer. Show me a thoughtful article he wrote while he was the President of the Law Review. Surely he's done SOMETHING?

That's a laugh. Thanks!

But I sorta get it. Distinguished for a conservative would be killing a mess of brown people in a foreign land..or gutting a viable company and firing all it's employees.

Don't you think it's rather telling that I've asked a rather simple question which all of the progressives that support Barack Obama have since avoided like the plague? Why is it that none of you want to point out to me all of the exceptional things that Obama has done for the past twenty years that should have made us all want him as our President? He's supposedly brilliant, correct? Then where are the examples of that brilliance? Where are the insightful articles he wrote while President of the Law Review? Where are the complex cases he won as a lawyer? Where are the scholarly pieces he wrote while teaching constitutional law? What are "his" pieces of legislation in either the Illionois Senate or the US Senate?

It's pretty obvious that deep down, most of YOU are now quite aware that he's not what he was made out to be by the Main Stream Media. So if that's the case...then why do you want this rather unexceptional man to have another four years? Why aren't you demanding that Hillary Clinton run and Barack Obama do a Lyndon Johnson and go play golf full time?

What difference does it make about his qualifications. Here's some of the things he has done:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba , allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57. Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Health care reform.
88. Student loan reform

89. Ordered the assassination of Osama Bin Laden, long sought by the U.S. military and intelligence services as the leader of Al Qaeda.

90. Retired the U.S. space shuttle program, saving billions in space expenditure and giving Russia a definitive lead in space exploration. July 8, 2011.

91. Overthrew the regime of Moammar Gaddaffi in Libya

 

[Neotrotsky]

It all means nothing
The majority of the US does not think him worthy of reelection
Could it change- sure
Will it- doubtful since Papa Obama has nothing new to offer

Since these polls tend to be biased in the Democrat's favor
You know it is even worse for him
Yeah, it is that bad,,,,


CNN: NOV 2011

CNN Poll: Obama ranks low among recent incumbents

It all adds up to an overall 46% approval rating for the president, with 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House.

In comparison to recent incumbents running for re-election, Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election. Most incumbents who were re-elected had an approval rating above 50% a year before the election

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NBC Poll: 51 Percent Not Happy On Obama’s Handling Of The Economy

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Obama's November Approval Weak From Historical Perspective
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To be fair
They are going to put his resume on a commemorative stamp

Hope that makes you feel better

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Don't care If you liked his policies or not.

Do you really think someone with that shallow a resumee derserved to be elected president????????????????

But "deserve" is hard to answer. I focus more on what America deserves than on what Obama may have deserved ... and we don't deserve much as shallow as we have become. TM was ironically correct in her Flame Zone posts this morning. America has become very shallow.

....Just one o' the many after-affects o' deciding we (only) needed someone to....

......play The President!!!

Stupid fuckin' "conservatives"​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Don't care If you liked his policies or not.

Do you really think someone with that shallow a resumee derserved to be elected president????????????????

Geraldine Ferraro was correct.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," Ferraro told California's "Daily Breeze" newspaper. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro: Obama "Very Lucky To Be Who He Is" - Horserace - CBS News




But "deserve" is hard to answer. I focus more on what America deserves than on what Obama may have deserved ... and we don't deserve much as shallow as we have become. TM was ironically correct in her Flame Zone posts this morning. America has become very shallow. Obama is part of the evidence of this.

Obama won the election..and by a good number. Had he been a Republican, they'd be going on about what a "Landslide" it was..

"Deserve" hasn't anything to do with anything. We don't elect presidents on the basis of whether they "deserve" it or not.

Well....to be fair.....that's (exactly) how Bob Dole & John McCain were nominated....it was "their turn".

How "odd" that The DICK; Cheney was never mentioned....to maintain the momentum of that grand Bush Economy!!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I find it interesting no one asks that about George W. Bush.

Maybe it's because Obama is "uppity" and "doesn't know his place".

Right?

Bush had a record of governing for people to evaluate.

Yeah....back when the Lt. Governor (actually) ran-the-show, in Texas.

How "odd" you "conservatives" always forget to bring-up that whole "business-experince" qualifier.....when talkin'-about......

.....Lil' Dumbya!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The folks were sick of Bush and the Reps.

The voted Barry in. They bought his Hope and Change bs. They also didn't know what a lefty he is.

They know now so lets see if he gets re-elected in 2012.

Not a prob!​

".....President Clinton was relentless in his focus on the economy. Clinton, who famously campaigned with "It's the economy, stupid" in 1992, never took his eye off the ball. He continued to hammer away at the recession that he inherited and didn't stop talking about the problems Americans faced. Although Clinton did turn his attention toward health care in 1993 and 1994, he continued to work on the economy, such as the Family and Medical Leave Act. He proposed enterprise zones to try and revitalize urban areas and fought against Republican proposed cuts to key domestic programs. During the rebound of the mid-1990s, Clinton was in a good position to claim credit for the improved circumstances.

President Obama has certainly worked hard to improve the economy. In more dramatic fashion than Clinton, he persuaded Congress to pass an economic stimulus bill as well as financial regulation."

Obama; SLAM-DUNKIN' Into 2012!!!​

. . . . ​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Those who realized that Obama was a radical because of what he did in the past are justified now, though it's too late. Look at the radicals he has surrounded himself with and the way he supports OWS.

wow.....how criminal.....

"Ronald Reagan's election in November 1980 set off celebrations in the well-to-do communities of Central America. After four years of Jimmy Carter's human rights nagging, the region's anticommunist hard-liners were thrilled that they had someone in the White House who understood their problems. The oligarchs and the generals had good reason for the optimism. For years, Reagan had been a staunch defender of right-wing regimes that engaged in bloody counterinsurgency campaigns against leftist enemies."

Reagan, Bloody Reagan.....