DNC lawyers tell Bernie Sanders supporters that they don't owe anyone a fair process

[Synthaholic]

According to The Washington Examiner

Why is a decidedly conservative news outlet giving enough of a damn about what the DNC does to editorialize about it?

Because with a failing Republican POTUS, Congress, and SCOTUS, they are desperate for enemies.

Hence, the powerless Democrats and the sycophantic media.

 

[Timmy]

This battle is barely smoldering, pretty soon there's going to be the mother of all cage matches in the Democratic party for control. The Bernie faction, the Clintons, the Obama's, what's left of the moderates. Fur will fly!

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party.

Word! Bernie was an independent interloper .

 

[Pogo]

DNC lawyers argue that they don’t owe anyone a fair process and that they follow whatever rules they decide on.

Of course. It's not a taxpayer-funded organization. The RNC is the same way. Example:

In August 2015, shortly after Trump announced, Reince Priebus was asked why he wasn't blocking him and he said "I can't control who runs as a Republican".

Months ago, when Republicans were thinking about running for the hills, after the pussy grabbing, Reince said that maybe the RNC would prevent some of these from running for president as Republicans.

You have to see these Parties for what they are: clubs.

Zackly. And by the same token the RNC could have dumped Rump, regardless what the primary vote was --- like they did in 1912. Personally I think they got it ass-backwards, both times.

 

[Synthaholic]

This is how political parties work. Their loyalty is to themselves, not any "will of the people".

The rightwingers on this forum are not familiar with a lot of knowledge. Sad!

 

[shockedcanadian]

DNC lawyers argue that they don’t owe anyone a fair process and that they follow whatever rules they decide on. Fuck the will of the will of the people. The party that likes to hold themselves out as the party of fairness is saying that they'll do as they please during primaries and the courts are wrong to allow Bernie supporters to complain about the way he was treated. It's clear that the left doesn't want fairness, especially when it comes to elections.

"According to The Washington Examiner:

The Democratic National Committee is currently defending itself in court against a lawsuit brought by Bernie Sanders supporters over the Democratic presidential primary process. And the proceedings, including an April 25 hearing in which the party argued the case should be dismissed, are already becoming quite amusing.

As Michael Sainato puts it in the Observer, “lawyers representing the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz double[d] down on arguments confirming the disdain the Democratic establishment has toward Bernie Sanders supporters and any entity challenging the party’s status quo.”

This lawsuit’s merits are dubious, it should be noted from the outset. The courts would set an unfortunate precedent if they started dictating how the political parties are governed and how they choose their candidates — it veers dangerously close to the political question doctrine.

This is a bit like that. In this case, DNC lawyers argue that they don’t owe anyone a fair process, and that the rules in their charter are basically not binding in court. In fact, if they wanted, DNC attorney Bruce Spiva argued, they could choose their nominee in a smoke-filled back room and it still wouldn’t be legally actionable. The transcription of the April 25 hearing quotes Spiva as follows:

“f you had a charity where somebody said, Hey, I’m gonna take this money and use it for a specific purpose, X, and they pocketed it and stole the money, of course that’s different. But here, where you have a party that’s saying, We’re gonna, you know, choose our standard bearer, and we’re gonna follow these general rules of the road, which we are voluntarily deciding, we could have — and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right, and it would drag the Court well into party politics, internal party politics to answer those questions.”

DNC in hot water over new lawsuit, offers up OUTRAGEOUSLY lame response

I sense a disturbance in the Force...

The left has upset Bernies supporters enough that they will be hard pressed to return to the fold. I imagine as more Clinton and Obama news hits the networks it will reinforce this divide and remind Sanders supporters exactly what they DON'T want their party to represent,

 

[Pogo]

How is this news exactly?

It is only in the most base sense of the term. If one didn't before know Sanders' supporters were bringing suit, well, now one does know. Thus, it was new information, and, well, that makes it news. Perhaps Hasbro will craft a question about it in an edition of "Trivial Pursuit." If so, knowing of the suit may come in handy someday for someone.

I wasn't aware of that either but I don't see how such a suit can have a basis.

Some group of citizens who got politically energized for the first time might be forgiven the naïveté about how political parties work as a private club, but any attorney ought to know better.

 

[Pogo]

This battle is barely smoldering, pretty soon there's going to be the mother of all cage matches in the Democratic party for control. The Bernie faction, the Clintons, the Obama's, what's left of the moderates. Fur will fly!

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party.

Bernie took over the Democratic party, you are just in denial.

Deny This, Twinkletoes. It's from last summer.

 

[Seawytch]

DNC lawyers argue that they don’t owe anyone a fair process and that they follow whatever rules they decide on.

Of course. It's not a taxpayer-funded organization. The RNC is the same way. Example:

In August 2015, shortly after Trump announced, Reince Priebus was asked why he wasn't blocking him and he said "I can't control who runs as a Republican".

Months ago, when Republicans were thinking about running for the hills, after the pussy grabbing, Reince said that maybe the RNC would prevent some of these from running for president as Republicans.

You have to see these Parties for what they are: clubs.

Not just clubs, some are members only clubs and that decision is up to the club, not people seeking membership.

In CA, for Presidential elections, it is up to the parties to decide whether or not to allow unaffiliated (independent) voters to vote in their Primary. Republicans have pretty consistently not allowed them and Democrats have.

 

[Seawytch]

DNC lawyers tell Bernie Sanders supporters that they don't owe anyone a fair process

They don't...that's my job and the job of thousands of county registrars all over the country. The parties make the rules for primaries, we enforce them. Pretty simple, really.

 

[Clementine]

DNC lawyers argue that they don’t owe anyone a fair process and that they follow whatever rules they decide on.

Of course. It's not a taxpayer-funded organization. The RNC is the same way. Example:

In August 2015, shortly after Trump announced, Reince Priebus was asked why he wasn't blocking him and he said "I can't control who runs as a Republican".

Months ago, when Republicans were thinking about running for the hills, after the pussy grabbing, Reince said that maybe the RNC would prevent some of these from running for president as Republicans.

You have to see these Parties for what they are: clubs.

They still must answer to the people funding them. You can't lie about what people are actually donating their money toward.