Do conservatives ever wonder WHY liberalism is prevalent in higher education?

[Quantum Windbag]

It's easy to figure why liberals infect academe.

Because they are insulated inside their little "intellectual" circles, away from the real world.

That's why "intellectuals" are the ones to come up with the most disastrous ideas that have infected society.

Some ideas are so stupid, only intellectuals could believe them -- George Orwell

There is some disagreement on the internet, on who said that first, but the validity of the saying, is not diminished even in that light.

George Orwell did not write that. I know his 'voice' as a writer. He does not term things in such a manner; he does not use language as it is used in that quotation. It is not his writing style or his voice, and the utter inanity of the way the idea is expressed is not his intellectually.

If you can prove he wrote this, please site the exact source, i.e., the text in which this can be found.

Maybe not, but it sums up his position.

I am well acquainted with all the arguments against freedom of thought and speech — the arguments which claim that it cannot exist, and the arguments which claim that it ought not to. I answer simply that they don't convince me and that our civilization over a period of four hundred years has been founded on the opposite notice. For quite a decade past I have believed that the existing Russian régime is a mainly evil thing, and I claim the right to say so, in spite of the fact that we are allies with the USSR in a war which I want to see won. If I had to choose a text to justify myself, I should choose the line from Milton:

By the known rules of ancient liberty.

The word ancient emphasizes the fact that intellectual freedom is a deep-rooted tradition without which our characteristic western culture could only doubtfully exist. From that tradition many of our intellectuals are visibly turning away. They have accepted the principle that a book should be published or suppressed, praised or damned, not on its merits but according to political expediency. And others who do not actually hold this view assent to it from sheer cowardice.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It's easy to figure why liberals infect academe.

Because they are insulated inside their little "intellectual" circles, away from the real world.

That's why "intellectuals" are the ones to come up with the most disastrous ideas that have infected society.



There is some disagreement on the internet, on who said that first, but the validity of the saying, is not diminished even in that light.

George Orwell did not write that. I know his 'voice' as a writer. He does not term things in such a manner; he does not use language as it is used in that quotation. It is not his writing style or his voice, and the utter inanity of the way the idea is expressed is not his intellectually.

If you can prove he wrote this, please site the exact source; i.e., the text in which this can be found.

Context would also be important.

Because, without context, you can pretend that Animal Farm was actually about animals, not the intellectual community.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do conservatives ever wonder WHY liberalism is prevalent in higher education?

Evolution

You know how I know you're stupid?

You quite obviously mistook me for someone who gives a fuck what you think....whoever you are.​

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Who are the great minds in America today who graduated from conservative universities?

Who can name some?

Me.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering, asshole.

Do they have BAs in mechanical engineering?

They award you a Bachelor of Science degree in engineering.

I know, it was supposed to be a joke.

To be honest, it was a lot funnier at 2AM.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Who are the great minds in America today who graduated from conservative universities?

Who can name some?

can you name any conservative universities?

Are you implying that American conservatism is incapable of producing institutions of higher education of any value?

Whose fault is that?

Are you implying that you have never heard of Texas A&M our Auburn?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Who are the great minds in America today who graduated from conservative universities?

Who can name some?

Me.

Cabineer, The elitie universities (ie Ivy League) are for the RICH, so they have to be full of conservatives and republicans, right?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Thomas Sowell wrote an entire book on Intellectuals and Society and examines why Intellectualism is so toxic.

Thomas Sowell on Intellectuals and Society - YouTube

LOLOL, Thomas Sowell IS an intellectual who attended Howard University,

got his Masters from the ultra-liberal Columbia University,

and his doctorate from the University of Chicago, where he shares alumni status with the likes of Sol Alinsky.

too funny, retard.

Does that make him right or wrong?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

think of what actors in history have disparaged education and educators.

those people were NOT good actors in history.

Not a single person in this thread has done that.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You know how I know you're stupid?

You quite obviously mistook me for someone who gives a fuck what you think....whoever you are.​

The problem is, you don't think at all, as shown by your stupid post and absurd signature.

Whew!!!

The Teabaggers must really be scrapin' the bottom, if you're an example o' their reservists.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Do liberals ever wonder why liberalism does so poorly in the real world?

Social Security, Medicare have helped millions and they're a product of liberalism

IN theory these are good programs. In practice, they SUCK...
Both are in danger of collapse. This is due to mismanagement, waste, fraud and abuse.
Liberals are constantly tripping over the laws of unintended consequences.

Care to substantiate the "mismanagement, waste, fraud and abuse" in Social Security and Medicare that is causing them to be in "in danger of collapse"?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The problem is, you don't think at all, as shown by your stupid post and absurd signature.

Whew!!!

The Teabaggers must really be scrapin' the bottom, if you're an example o' their reservists.

You are just digging yourself into a bigger hole with your wild assumptions all in CAPS. Quit while you are still not too far behind.

Run, along, Skippy.....

Ya' got nothin'.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

can you name any conservative universities?

Are you implying that American conservatism is incapable of producing institutions of higher education of any value?

Whose fault is that?

Are you implying that you have never heard of Texas A&M our Auburn?

.....And, we can't forget about Dr. Robertson!!!!


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBzYSUI5_GM]Bill Maher on elites - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[TemplarKormac]

Are you implying that American conservatism is incapable of producing institutions of higher education of any value?

Whose fault is that?

Are you implying that you have never heard of Texas A&M our Auburn?

.....And, we can't forget about Dr. Robertson!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBzYSUI5_GM]Bill Maher on elites - YouTube[/ame]​

Erhm, Bill Maher is an elite.. sorry.

 

[Derideo_Te]

AS I SAID, there is SOME DISAGREEMENT on who said it first. That was phrased badly. I meant, on who said it.

Some say Mark Levin.

The point being, it doesn't matter who said it. It's dead on accurate.

Communism, socialism, and Yes FASCISM were all started by intellectuals.

If you think I'm wrong, listen to the lyrics of Cole Porter song from 1930, in which Mussolini is considered the height of intellectualism.

You?re the Top! You?re Mussolini! | marksimpson.com

Winston Churchill once called Mussolini, "The Roman Genius."

The point being, today's intellectuals, easily become tomorrow's monsters.

Stalin was touted by the left for years until the Soviet Union fell and it was no longer possible to deny the atrocities.

Whether or not anyone believes the statement to be accurate, it is simply not cool to misquote someone or to attribute a quotation to someone who did not make the statement. It does indeed matter very much who said it in the sense that it is wrong to attritube to someone something they did not say. How would you like it if someone did that to you?

By the time the Soviet Union fell, Stalin and his brand of communism had been dead for a few decades. People who had believed in him had lost faith in him long, long before the Soviet Union fell.

If you believe 'intellectuals' created fascism, communism, socialism and every other 'ill' of the world, every other philosophy, that would suggest to me that you believe anyone who reads, writes, thinks, and is educated is part of some evil entity in this world that falls under the umbrella of the term, as you define it "intellectual." Jesus would, therefore, also be an intellectual. In fact, Jesus was a socialist and an intellectual. Hmmmm.....

I imagine Churchill used the term genius, when he spoke of Mussolini, in a political sense. It is not the same thing as being an intellectual.

Porter did not write his song about Mussolini.

P. G. Wodehouse anglicised it for the British version of Anything Goes. Amongst other changes, he altered two lines from "You’re an O’Neill drama / You’re Whistler’s mama!" to "You’re Mussolini / You’re Mrs Sweeny")

P.G. Wodehouse was a satirist, which means he was being satirical in changing the language in the song to include Mussolini.

Ahh, so you now make excuses for the fall of the USSR.
Well it's fact time. The USSR as with any communist country is set up for failure.
It is impossible to sustain a socialist/communist political reign for an extended time. Eventually, as the general public is robbed of their wealth, it falls into the hands of the political elite. The people are left equal in their misery.

Deregulating free market capitalism sets it up for failure too. That is what happened in 1929, 1987, 2001 and 2008. The current transfer of wealth from the general public into the hands of the elite 1% is happening as a result of the failure of "free markets" dogma.

 

[regent]

Only in the Republican party can a guy with a C minus average be considered an intellectual.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

when did the right in this country begin hating democracy?

According to this thread, modern liberals HATE John Locke, thus they hate this country.

 

[Antares]

Apparently the HIGHEST form of enlightenment is reached when one an epiphany that reveals to them the answer to EVERY problem we face is to take someone else's money and give it to another.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Deregulating free market capitalism sets it up for failure too. That is what happened in 1929, 1987, 2001 and 2008. The current transfer of wealth from the general public into the hands of the elite 1% is happening as a result of the failure of "free markets" dogma.

Well, lets go through these depressions one by one, starting with the most recent.

How did the "free market", cause the Financial Collapse of 2008?[/QUOTE]

If only someone told him the Federal Reserve caused each of those depressions. What is the Federal Reserve? It's a Keynesian Monopoly on United States Currency.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Ahh, so you now make excuses for the fall of the USSR.
Well it's fact time. The USSR as with any communist country is set up for failure.
It is impossible to sustain a socialist/communist political reign for an extended time. Eventually, as the general public is robbed of their wealth, it falls into the hands of the political elite. The people are left equal in their misery.

Deregulating free market capitalism sets it up for failure too. That is what happened in 1929, 1987, 2001 and 2008. The current transfer of wealth from the general public into the hands of the elite 1% is happening as a result of the failure of "free markets" dogma.

Well, lets go through these depressions one by one, starting with the most recent.

How did the "free market", cause the Financial Collapse of 2008?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKKvMJeBBSA]Q&A: Leslie & Andrew Cockburn - YouTube[/ame]


See: 4:45 thru 12:00​