BlindBoo
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Phone transcripts should be released so we can see for ourselves.
Release all the transcripts so we can see how many times this (back channel communications) has happened before.
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Phone transcripts should be released so we can see for ourselves.
General Milley did not attempt to protect our country on his own. He had a conversation with an adversary and dialogue is crucial in this instance when we have an irrational and pugnacious president.I think the generals are the safeguards.
No. What Miley did is simply commit treason.
Generals don’t run the country…..It is the DEEP STATE
Just so long as the general is woke, the Left is OK with it.
Just so long as his focus is on the danger of white rage among law abiding American citizens and ignore other real threats like China, they will be willing to overlook virtually anything about him, even how he handled Afghanistan
So a general can at any time refuse to take an order so long as they deem the commander in chief "crazy" or "stupid"
Understood.
In other words, they run things.
Notice what you typed? If Trump......We have war mongers all over the place. In recent decades with the Bush influence Repubs became the Neo Con party that the Progs held the Championship belt for War Mongering for many many decades.
No. But we understand you hate the constitution.If Treason prevented Trump from bumbling us into nuclear annihilation, I'm all for it.
The real problem is that Trump was unfit for the office, and the people who protect this country had to work around him.
No. But we understand you hate the constitution.
None of that was in play. So your question is moot.I'm fine with the constitution. I just don't think it's a suicide pact.
So hypothetical situation. It's January 7th, Trump has completely lost his mind, and he pulled out the Nuclear Football and he's about to order a nuclear strike on China.
Someone shoots him before he can push the button.
Treason or not?
None of that was in play. So your question is moot.
If the cabinet feels the President is unfit, there is recourse. It’s called the 25th amendment.
A politically partisan General with NO command authority at all, takes it upon himself to contact our greatest enemy and assure him he would warn him?
This is treason. Period.
This would be the same cabinet who cravenly praised the man so he'd feel better about himself.
I'm talking FINGER ON THE BUTTON! Right or wrong to stop him? It was a simple question.
No, it's the kind of high level contacts we've had throughout the Cold War to assure it never escalated into a hot war. American Generals have had direct lines of communications to their Russian or Chinese counterparts for decades.
Assuring him that an attack wasn't imminent to calm nerves kind of makes sense.
No. But we understand you hate the constitution.
Brilliant deduction about what you understand. Just another tumpecile flapping in the breeze.No. But we understand you hate the constitution.
Just stop.. Trump said he can't read the Constitution.. its too hard.
Brilliant deduction about what you understand. Just another tumpecile flapping in the breeze.
That is not the case here. Talk is crucial in a situation where the "Republican" in power is acting in an irrational and incendiary fashion, according to members of his inner circle. Tump believes that hat he has unlimited authority and has said just that. He has inflamed China with his "locked and loaded" rhetoric, and diplomacy was indeed necessary.Would you like a country where Generals override the civilian control of the Military? Or just in the case where Republican's are in positions of power?
No matter how you try and justify General Miley's actions, it is the very definition of treason....Milley instructed senior officers to obey his orders and to ignore those given by the President Trump, the duly elected commander-in-chief. There is NO way around that. He should be immediately relieved of his duties, and arrested.
Would you like a country where Generals override the civilian control of the Military? Or just in the case where Republican's are in positions of power?
noDo US generals run the country?
That is not the case here. Talk is crucial in a situation where the "Republican" in power is acting in an irrational and incendiary fashion, according to members of his inner circle. Tump believes that hat he has unlimited authority and has said just that. He has inflamed China with his "locked and loaded" rhetoric, and diplomacy was indeed necessary.
Trump wasn't duly elected. The people said "no". Twice. Three times if you count the midterms. He was impeached twice.
Here's the thing... All the officers at that meeting agreed with Milley, Trump had no business being in charge of the nukes at that point.
The one thing that I learned in the military is that you have no obligation to obey an illegal order. If Trump tried to order a nuclear strike against China, that would have been illegal.
The very fact that the Generals had a legitimate fear he might pull that shit is scary enough.