Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[Brain357]

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

When did you become an advocate for limiting government power?

I am in most cases.

 

[Billiejeens]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

 

[Brain357]

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

When did you become an advocate for limiting government power?

Umm

Is it when Donald J. Trump became the Head of The Government?

I agreed with repubs that leading by executive order was bad under Obama. Sadly they have changed their mind now.

 

[Brain357]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

 

[Billiejeens]

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

 

[K9Buck]

The extreme of right-wing ideology would be a land where there is no government. So-called "sovereign citizens" could be described as "far-right".

The extreme of left-wing ideology would be North Korea, wherein government is all-powerful and manages everything.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The extreme of right-wing ideology would be a land where there is no government. So-called "sovereign citizens" could be described as "far-right".

The extreme of left-wing ideology would be North Korea, wherein government is all-powerful and manages everything.

You got that exactly backwards.

 

[daveman]

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

 

[daveman]

You're right. Maybe we should adopt the left's attitude: THERE THERE YOU POOR DUMB MINORITIES, ITS OKAY, WE KNOW YOU CANT POSSIBLY SUCCEED WITHOUT WHITE LIBERALS HELP

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Conservative "roots"? Who would that be, George Wallace?

To racists, everything's about race.

I'm talking about support for the Constitution. Ever read it? It's fascinating. Bears little resemblance to what we've got today. Leftists in both parties seem to think it's optional.

Well, I still trying to figure out who the "roots" of the conservative GOP is that you seem to think is the true home of the GOP. It wasn't Ike. Nixon was a crook, but he wasn't what you would call the conservative root. Ford? Don't make me laugh. Reagan? He is the one who signed into law free phones for the poor, and Free ER at hospitals for the indigent. Bush I? Don't think so. He gave us free RX with Medicare. Bush II? He called himself a compassionate conservative. Who was this mystery man?

I said "conservative roots" as in "conservatism". I said "I'm talking about support for the Constitution."

At least try to keep up.

 

[daveman]

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

 

[daveman]

I'm talking about support for the Constitution. Ever read it? It's fascinating. Bears little resemblance to what we've got today. Leftists in both parties seem to think it's optional.

Countries, things, people outgrow other things, people and countries. It's an old document that probably needs a few more amendments.

Then amend it. The procedure is clear.

But don't use leftist judges to invent shit that isn't in there. That's a tacit admission you can't get the majority of people to support your goals.

 

[Dr Grump]

Then amend it. The procedure is clear.

But don't use leftist judges to invent shit that isn't in there. That's a tacit admission you can't get the majority of people to support your goals.

it's not only leftist judges....

 

[daveman]

The extreme of right-wing ideology would be a land where there is no government. So-called "sovereign citizens" could be described as "far-right".

The extreme of left-wing ideology would be North Korea, wherein government is all-powerful and manages everything.

You got that exactly backwards.

Ridiculous.

 

[daveman]

Then amend it. The procedure is clear.

But don't use leftist judges to invent shit that isn't in there. That's a tacit admission you can't get the majority of people to support your goals.

it's not only leftist judges....

It is mostly.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

 

[daveman]

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

 

[francoHFW]

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

Every modern country is socialist, brainwashed functional morons. All of the EU and Scandinavia Canada the UK Australia New Zealand had Japan....we are the richest country in the world and yet we are the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and great infrastructure. And mainly they taxthe rich and giant corporations their fair share.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

What a load of crap. Public service is the a thing that the new GOP is trying to wreck respect for. Deep State my ass. There are now so many phony scandals that have been discredited they have to go with the entire world is a conspiracy against them now LOL-- Man scary how effective this GOP garbage hate character assassination and phony scandal and misinformation propaganda is.
This is ridiculous.

 

[daveman]

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

 

[daveman]

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

Every modern country is socialist, brainwashed functional morons. All of the EU and Scandinavia Canada the UK Australia New Zealand had Japan....we are the richest country in the world and yet we are the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and great infrastructure. And mainly they taxthe rich and giant corporations their fair share.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

What a load of crap. Public service is the a thing that the new GOP is trying to wreck respect for. Deep State my ass. There are now so many phony scandals that have been discredited they have to go with the entire world is a conspiracy against them now LOL-- Man scary how effective this GOP garbage hate character assassination and phony scandal and misinformation propaganda is.
This is ridiculous.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist